Favre: Comitted Enough for 2008?

[woodbuck27]

After 15 votes this forum sits 8 -7 in support of Brett Favre.

Wow that's appreciation? NO that SUCKS.

[woodbuck27]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

Brett Favre is formally retired and is therefore nobody's QB

If he decides to unretire, well we'll see how good he looks in training camp. I have concerns about him not working out as much this offseason as previous offseasons, which might hurt his performance on the field. Still, the only way we're going to know whether he's still the same Brett as last year is if he shows up at camp, at which point we'll see how good he looks.

Maybe he's been working out all offseason, maybe he's been sitting on the couch seeing how many twinkies he can eat. I don't know, I'm not kept in the loop on what Favre does on a daily basis. But these questions can be answered if he shows up to camp, which is his only option other than "stay retired."

The question is:

Is Brett Favre Committed Enough To Start Over Rodgers?

Yes, even missing the time he has and at McCarthy's 85%, he is the better option 53% [ 8 ]

No, Rodgers clearly now has on edge in preparation, dedication and desire 46% [ 7 ]

Total Votes : 15

[MJZiggy]

Is the question "is he good enough" or "is he committed enough?" Two very different questions with very different answers.

[Lurker64]

Considering the waffling of Favre this offseason, I can't for the life of me see how Rodgers doesn't have the edge in "edge in preparation, dedication and desire" whether or not Favre is the better quarterback for this season.

Rodgers has been working his butt off this season for this and has spent three years salivating over this chance. Favre has an itch. Rodgers, though likely not the better QB, is hungrier.

[PackerBlues]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

I don't know about that Woody, I wouldn't blame Thompson if he wants to start Rogers. My only problem will be on how Favre is handled. Worse case scenario, I want to see him traded to a team that he is happy with and willing to play for. If Favre wants to play, let him finish his career somewhere else if that is his only option.

But if Thompson has it in his head that he is going to either bench Favre (not likely imo), or trade him off to a shit team that offers more in compensation than a team that Brett wants to go to (outside the division of coarse), then that is the only problem that will make this situation worse than it really needs to be.

[Partial]

I have hinted at this before but now I'll say it flat-out. Favre had a great year last year, but a 38-year old athlete cannot let his conditioning go all offseason and expect to pick it up and play at the same level, especially with reduced reps. He busted his ass last year just to maintain, and now he has to rebuild core muscles that have atrophied since the end of last year as this is what happens to muscles that get older. Add to that the fact that last year was an anomaly compared to the years before it and what you have is an aging qb who had an exceptionally good year last year even for him. People act like because he's Brett Favre, there's no way he can lose because he won last year, but he did manage to lose some games in the years prior to last. He had to think long and hard about if he even wanted to do this and still seemingly can't manage a statement much less a 100% commitment.

Contrast that with A-Rod's statements about can't wait to get here to start working on 2-a-days...

Thats speculation. We don't know how much he's been working out. You forgot to mention that the recieving core played brilliantly last year and is poised to do it again.

He hasn't been working out with a professional football team like the rest of the team has. And the receiving corps will play brilliantly for either quarterback. The fact that Favre is a known quantity does not ensure that he will always be better.

Nonsense. He never does and has always been fine. Rodgers has spent most of his off-season in Cali kickin it. Not spending it in GB working with his teammates daily as Harell would want you to believe.

[Badgepack]

But if Thompson has it in his head that he is going to either bench Favre

Wouldn't M3 make that decision, not Ted?

[pbmax]

As may have been said already, I am mostly doubtful that Favre will beat these stats. That is why I am worried. I know the Rodgers will need time to grow into the role. But I can't measure what Favre has left. His slipping preparation makes me more concerned.

You must believe that Rodgers will beat these stats from 2007
4155 yards
28 TD's
15 INT's
QB rating 95.7
13-3 record


I don't think Rodgers can beat those stats and I think Brett could do it again. Therefore I think Brett should come back in 2 weeks to beat Rodgers for the starting spot. I like Rodgers, but unless he can beat Favre in a camp battle, he should keep waiting

[GoPackGo]

As may have been said already, I am mostly doubtful that Favre will beat these stats. That is why I am worried. I know the Rodgers will need time to grow into the role. But I can't measure what Favre has left. His slipping preparation makes me more concerned.

You must believe that Rodgers will beat these stats from 2007
4155 yards
28 TD's
15 INT's
QB rating 95.7
13-3 record


I don't think Rodgers can beat those stats and I think Brett could do it again. Therefore I think Brett should come back in 2 weeks to beat Rodgers for the starting spot. I like Rodgers, but unless he can beat Favre in a camp battle, he should keep waiting

He was playing football 6 months ago in the playoffs. Why assume he wouldn't be ready by September?

[MJZiggy]

Because that playoff run took massive amounts of work, dedication and training with the team that he's not up to speed with now. High schoolers do not equate a pro football team with professional coaching. He's also at a very advanced age for quarterbacks and missing work becomes more of an issue.

[pbmax]

This is nonsense. Rodgers was in Green Bay for everything. And he has been working out with NFL teammates in California for part of his off time. Favre has participated in zilch with the team.

There is no way to compare the two offseasons.

Nonsense. He never does and has always been fine. Rodgers has spent most of his off-season in Cali kickin it. Not spending it in GB working with his teammates daily as Harell would want you to believe.

[pbmax]

Because he looked like a different QB at the end of the season and played mediocre in that final game. That is why. Favre isn't suddenly forget how to throw the football or read a defense. He simply won't be able to do whathe has done in the past.

Its your guess he will. I think the odds he slips are better. There is no way to be sure. But for the next five years, I like the odds of Rodgers/Brohm over Favre (1-3years)/Brohm.

He was playing football 6 months ago in the playoffs. Why assume he wouldn't be ready by September?

[woodbuck27]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

I don't know about that Woody, I wouldn't blame Thompson if he wants to start Rogers. My only problem will be on how Favre is handled. Worse case scenario, I want to see him traded to a team that he is happy with and willing to play for. If Favre wants to play, let him finish his career somewhere else if that is his only option.

But if Thompson has it in his head that he is going to either bench Favre (not likely imo), or trade him off to a shit team that offers more in compensation than a team that Brett wants to go to (outside the division of coarse), then that is the only problem that will make this situation worse than it really needs to be.

The really simple thing here is for management to go with what they had already decided. Show some class and make it very clear that the decision was firm to move on without Brett Favre and give him his outright release and a thanks Brett it's been great.

This should be done before TC's open to be fair all around. For the life of me I can't see why this isn't a 'no brainer' for more people here. It's neat and clean. Favre then makes his best deal .

They want him or they don't and no way on earth will I support handcuffing the man against choosing his best path or any lolly dolly games on managements part going forward. To use Ted Thompsons now familiar phrase.

I still believe that smarter heads will prevail and Favre will be released and very soon 'in fact'.


That is the best and only classy decision that packer management can and will make. You heard it here first. Mark it on the wall. Favre will be released and it had better not be once TC begins or that will be interpreted by all Brett Favre supporters as a BS dirty ass'd move by Ted Thompson. He won't go anywhere near there with the focus clearly on him.

PLEASE TED. Get this one right. Fingers crossed.

[Rastak]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

I don't know about that Woody, I wouldn't blame Thompson if he wants to start Rogers. My only problem will be on how Favre is handled. Worse case scenario, I want to see him traded to a team that he is happy with and willing to play for. If Favre wants to play, let him finish his career somewhere else if that is his only option.

But if Thompson has it in his head that he is going to either bench Favre (not likely imo), or trade him off to a shit team that offers more in compensation than a team that Brett wants to go to (outside the division of coarse), then that is the only problem that will make this situation worse than it really needs to be.

The really simple thing here is for management to go with what they had already decided. Show some class and make it very clear that the decision was firm to move on without Brett Favre and give him his outright release and a thanks Brett it's been great.

this should be done before TC's open to be fair all around. For the life of me I can't see why this isn't a 'no brainer' for more people here. It's neat and clean.

Favre then makes his best deal .

They want him or they don't and no way on earth will i support handcuffing the man against choosing his best path.

I still believe that smarter heads will prevail and Favre will be released and very soon 'in fact'.

favre

I understand the sentiment Woody but I just can't for the life of me see them do that. It seems fairly clear they don't really want him but they aren't going to give him away, despite the appearance of unfairness.

He signed a deal to play for Green Bay, if he wants to come back and draw a 12mil paycheck he's gotta do it there unless the Packers say otherwise.


Sentiment and loyalty do have a place in the NFL, but it's always had its limits.

[pbmax]

No, the simplest thing would be to welcome Favre back. While everyone is tired of the Hamlet routine, most people outside this board and the poll believe Favre gives them the best chance. That is the path of least resistance publicly.

I do agree with you however, that moving him is the best route if they want Rodgers this year. I don't see the backup thing working. But it should be a trade, not a release.

The really simple thing here is for management to go with what they had already decided.