Bleacher Report Reports Favre to Tampa

[Bretsky]

absolutely STUPID... you hold on to a Brett Favre, and u fuckin make sure hes 100% committed and then u START a Brett Favre... its simple!

It might be simple if Favre could say that he's 100% committed, but he can't.

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I believe he did last week

[MJZiggy]

Then someone find it for me, please, because I can't find a single quote with him saying that.

[Brando19]

Favre hasn't said shit.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Bleacher Report Reports Favre to Tampa

Sources close to analyst Alex Tallitsch tell him Brett Favre will be a Tampa Bay Buccaneer by Monday.

Alex Tallitsch = Joe Arrigo?

[digitaldean]

I agree, this is all a moot point until he files for reinstatement with the Commish.

Personally, I think the trade is a bit weak. If he is that last piece of a puzzle for any team, a first round pick would be necessary.

[Bretsky]

Then someone find it for me, please, because I can't find a single quote with him saying that.

Find it youself; I don't care about having to verify quote for anybody
It was noted by either TT or MM in that dirty stupid timeline

[pbmax]

Its Wilde's timeline in the State Journal, July 8th:

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/packers/295949

Late June: Favre calls McCarthy and the two have a conversation in which Favre tells him he might want to play again. At that point, McCarthy asks Favre if he was 100 percent committed to a return. ''He said, 'No, no, I'm not saying I'm there yet.' ''

July 4th weekend: Thompson, who is on vacation, exchanges text messages with Favre.

July 8: During a conference call with Thompson, McCarthy and Packers VP of football administration/player finance Russ Ball, Favre and his agent, James ''Bus'' Cook discuss Favre's situation with the Packers. McCarthy asks Favre if he is 100 percent committed to football. For the first time in the offseason, Favre says yes.

[rbaloha1]

Great Deal

Packers Nation, please do not worry about the details of BF's current status.

Support TT.

Make the deal -- let another organization pander to the diva.

Thank you BF. Can not wait to beat you again and again!

[Bretsky]

Re: Great Deal

Packers Nation, please do not worry about the details of BF's current status.

Support TT.

Make the deal -- let another organization pander to the diva.

Thank you BF. Can not wait to beat you again and again!

Ah, so you want him traded to the Vkings or Bears then ??

[bobblehead]

1) nobody questions bretts committment on sundays, he is a warrior, we are questioning his committment to the gameplan and studying the other teams defense this upcoming sunday. We question him waiting til OTA and minicamps are done before he suddenly wants to play again.

2) If we can actually score a second for a guy with one year left who we no longer want, that is a huge trade and we gotta take it.

3) Simms has value cuz he has actually started in the nfl and isn't in his first season. He knows how to prepare each week and understands this league, brohm and flynn don't yet....thats why most rookie QB's look lost.

4) Holding out for better than simms as the throw in would be foolish, not many teams will offer a second. As for teams with spare DT's...good luck, there is a reason we got a 2nd for part time williams.

5) The final reason to do this deal if its for real is that mccarthy and thompson don't actually want brett anymore. And they sure as hell don't want to go thru this next year again if we keep him on our roster.

[sepporepi]

Thank you BF. Can not wait to beat you again and again!



Ah, so you want him traded to the Vkings or Bears then ??

He means Tampa Bay .

First time week 4 and second time in the playoffs

[twoseven]

All things considered, this hypothetical proposal sounds goofy, believing it when it actually happens. But Favre to Tampa not only perpetuates #4 as a thorn in our side, it also may (if #4 were to bloom there) send Garcia packing for a new team, possibly to CHI or MN (?), another thing that really doesn't help GB in the grand scheme of things if it were to happen.

[3irty1]

All things considered, this hypothetical proposal sounds goofy, believing it when it actually happens. But Favre to Tampa not only perpetuates #4 as a thorn in our side, it also may (if #4 were to bloom there) send Garcia packing for a new team, possibly to CHI or MN (?), another thing that really doesn't help GB in the grand scheme of things if it were to happen.

BINGO.

[The Leaper]

You don't trade Favre to an NFC team (unless they offer you a ridiculously good deal...I don't consider a 2nd and Simms to be ridiculously good) and you don't release Favre outright.

[sheepshead]

With Relationship Broken, Bucs Need To Trade Simms
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By ANWAR S. RICHARDSON

The Tampa Tribune

Published: July 13, 2008

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TAMPA - Most people can identify with being in a bad relationship that needs to end.

When the relationship first started, there was nothing but hope and promise. It originally seemed that person could be a good fit, but as things progressed, somebody, if not both parties, realized they were not compatible. Then it was time to move on.

This basically summarizes the dysfunctional relationship between the Bucs and Chris Simms, the unhappy quarterback who wants out, but whose team will not let him go.

We learned last week that Dallas, Chicago and Detroit are interested in Simms. There are plenty more rumors to come, and no matter which team Simms plays for this season, he will be a backup - except in Tampa.

That is why it is time for the Bucs to let go and move on.

Simms was criticized by fans and media members for voicing his displeasure this summer, but those opponents fail to realize the obvious.

Before Simms became a starter in 2005, he spent the first six weeks behind Brian Griese. After Griese's injury against Miami, Simms was 5-5 as a starter that season.

Simms struggled in 2006, and after throwing seven interceptions and one touchdown in three games, he suffered a near-fatal spleen injury. As Simms recovered, his frustrations began to mount.

It was easy for Simms to understand why Jeff Garcia started last season. Yet, he was baffled about why Bucs coach Jon Gruden preferred to keep Luke McCown and Bruce Gradkowski on Tampa Bay's roster over him. Think about it. Gradkowski?

The Glazers thought about it, too, and insisted that Simms be retained. However, Simms began reading the writing on the relationship wall this summer.

Garcia was going to start again this season. Griese, the player he previously played behind, was re-signed. McCown, a quarterback Gruden believed was better than Simms last season, was back, while Tampa Bay drafted Josh Johnson in the fifth round, pretty much guaranteeing him a roster spot.

As the fifth quarterback on Tampa Bay's depth chart, Simms just wanted to be released and have an opportunity to play for another team. He wants this relationship to end, but the Bucs are holding on with hopes of getting something in exchange for him.

One reasonable alternative would be to trade Simms for a conditional draft pick based on his playing time. Tampa Bay could initially receive a seventh-round draft pick that could increase to a fifth- or fourth-rounder based on Simms' performance this season. Both teams win in that scenario.

The worst thing is to proudly send a message to Simms that he will only be moved when Tampa Bay says so. Simms could have been traded on draft day, but the longer Tampa Bay holds on to him, his odds of learning another playbook and contributing to another team this season decreases. There is no need to be perceived as a team trying to hurt Simms' career by holding on to him.

When Tampa Bay drafted Simms in 2003, it appeared this could be a powerful union.

Now there is nothing but bitterness, and it needs to end.