Van Susteren: Favre Felt Pressured

[RashanGary]

I do think Brett is a pampered brat but I don't think he confused the signals. The Packers may not have wanted Favre gone, but I don't think they were worried if he left and to an ego as delicate as Brett's that is enough to put him over the edge.

They're doing everythign they can to avoid putting any undue pressure on Rodgers but the signals are clear. They believe in him. They believe in him so much that they're not willing to put up with Brett's will I/won't I act any more.

I don't think the Packers pushed this, but I think they set a standard that he was going to have to be there in the offseason and if he wasn't willing to work as hard as Rodgers then they'd move forward. They did.

[Kiwon]

Favre is showing himself at his worse right now.

This episode may to some extent tarnish his whole career.

No matter what he says or does his career will be celebrated and his number retired in Green Bay...... eventually, but it's a real shame that it comes to this.

This trouble is all on him.

He left the game on a high point in his career (just the way he said he wanted to) and then he pulls this stunt.

Brett's a unique individual who can think and make the right snap decisions on his feet under duress but can't make them sitting down with all the time in the world. I guess he's got this Spiderman Peter Parker-thing where he talks to himself constantly and convinces himself of one position and then another and then another.

He is letting his ego get the best of him. If he would "play the game for free" as he has always claimed then he should be willing to accept a backup role if he can't win the starting job from Rodgers. Brett's showing that he's not the "team first" guy that he's always claimed to be.

He is absolutely tarnishing his legacy.

[woodbuck27]

Favre is showing himself at his worse right now.

This episode may to some extent tarnish his whole career.

As said above, if you want to come back say so. Directly to Packer mgmt.

Not through your mother or your brother or the Biloxi News or leaks. Especially after you turned down an offer to return when you did say so and left everybody hanging for the umpteenth time.

I didn't have the stomach to listen to Favre's long winded monotone interviews after a victory. I'm sure not going to listen to this travesty.

So what you're sayin is that you are going to listen to MM and TT only and not listen to Brett's side of the story?... that makes a heck of a lot of sense....

I'll take 'the man's word' over managements word... any day.

Where did you fellas spend your life? With your head stuck in the sand? Since when has management generally been fair? That's why Unions were created and why today Unions are in such strife.

Management only protects the allmighty dolar and screw the men.

Yes for sure we can expect the man Favre is to lie or waffle and all we've seen in TT since he got here was... well maybe's. Brett Favre will tell it straight up only if he's damn sure he's done in Green Bay.

I sense that's the case unless the fans get 'the facts' or Favre's side of the story.

[RashanGary]

We'll see what happens. I think there are a couple things that came out of htis.


1. Brett's not willing to work all off season like the rest of the team

2. The Packers do not feel they need Brett badly enough to put up with his act of not being a part of the team.



As dramatic as this is, if you sit back and read the signs I acctually think they point to really good things for the Packers. If McCarthy knows anything about he QB position, his actions of not taking Favre in June show that he thinks this team is in good hands with Rodgers. I'm more excited now than I was before any of this came out. I trust McCarthys opinion over my own and his opinion is clear if actions speak louder than words.

The Packers are in good hands at QB. Trust McCArthy's actions.

[The Shadow]

He's had his way for years, finally had his bluff called, and now he's whining.
Sooner or later, he needed to grow up.
Bye.

[digitaldean]

First off, I am GLAD Brett finally said something himself. He seemed to lay it out on the table but kind of missed a few facts.

This is my opinion and may be totally wrong. But I think TT and M3 were just flat out tired of the back and forth they had to endure the past couple of years.

The one thing I picked up was BF failed to mention that he cancelled the unretirement meeting a day or two before M3 and TT were coming to Miss.

Nothing was mentioned about TT coming to Hattiesburg and visiting Brett in May.

I think we found a little more that the Packers wanted to have BF make up his mind before training camp because they thought Aaron was ready.

It sure appears he'd like to clock TT. The insinuations and the half truths coming out of both camps (after hearing him speak for himself). I don't know if this situation is irreparable, but it sure looks like its on life support.

[RashanGary]

He's had his way for years, finally had his bluff called, and now he's whining.
Sooner or later, he needed to grow up.
Bye.

Perfectly said, Shadow. Favre is getting what he deserves. Hopefully it helps in in the long run. He has a good opportunity to put his feet back on ground after all of this.

[woodbuck27]

We'll see what happens. I think there are a couple things that came out of htis.


1. Brett's not willing to work all off season like the rest of the team

2. The Packers do not feel they need Brett badly enough to put up with his act of not being a part of the team.



As dramatic as this is, if you sit back and read the signs I acctually think they point to really good things for the Packers. If McCarthy knows anything about he QB position, his actions of not taking Favre in June show that he thinks this team is in good hands with Rodgers. I'm more excited now than I was before any of this came out.

Yes sure your feelings are respected by me JH, but this isn't about Aaron Rodgers 'the next Packer starting QB' and what MM thinks of his abilities /skills.

This is about a man wanting to get his side of the story viewed in public. This is about integrity and honor and due respect. This is about 'the TRUTH'.

This is about Packer fans/ NFL fans... hearing Favre's side of the story.

[RashanGary]

We'll see what happens. I think there are a couple things that came out of htis.


1. Brett's not willing to work all off season like the rest of the team

2. The Packers do not feel they need Brett badly enough to put up with his act of not being a part of the team.



As dramatic as this is, if you sit back and read the signs I acctually think they point to really good things for the Packers. If McCarthy knows anything about he QB position, his actions of not taking Favre in June show that he thinks this team is in good hands with Rodgers. I'm more excited now than I was before any of this came out.

Yes sure your fellings are respected by me JH but this isn't about Aaron Rodgers the next packer starting QB and what MMM thinks of his abilities /skills.

This is about a man wanting to get his side of the story viewd in public. this is about integrity and honor and due respect. This is about 'the TRUTH'.

This is about Packer fans/ NFL fans... hearing Favre's side of the story.

This is about a person who at some point stopped appreciating the wonderfull opportunity that he had and the life he was given from being gifted at a boys game. This is about that person being surrounded with yes men and losing the one person who kept him grounded, his father. This is about that person not bothering to show up and put the work in with his team. This is about a person who thinks he's earned the right to just show up whenever he wants. This is about a team that doesn't worship him and feels they have enough ammo to move ahead. This is about a team that will not allow any member to be above the team. This is about Brett learning that he's not above the team. This is about a lot of things, the truth being closer to the bottom as it was out already.

[pbmax]

Part of that can't be right because both Favre and McCarthy are on record saying he called M3 twice, once to say he was retiring, M3 asked him to take the weekend (or a couple of days) to think it over and he called saying he hadn't changed his mind.

So it wasn't received with just a "Yep, OK".

Why does the team need to ask him to come back?

$13 million, young improving roster, NFC Championship berth isn't enough of how serious and good these guys are? They need to ask?

This is what I said in April. This is pretty much what Brett just said.


April statement "Also, Havel has said over the last week or two that the Packers didn't even make an effort to ask him to come back. From everything I am piecing together, they made the deadline and told him he had to have an answer. He told them on that day that he had to retire becuase he wasn't sure. They said "OK". It all happened very fast. I don't even think Brett realized they were serious. He's used to being given more time, given mini camps off and being coddled. Instead they hung up the phone and let the story out before he could change his mind, then called him in for a retirement presser. Just like that, he was done. In his mind, I think he was just posturing to have mini camp off. In McCarthy's mind it was over on that day."

[woodbuck27]

I've got FoxNews on, and all it is is local stuff.

Not your local fox station, cable news network FoxNews.


Actually it just ended, they will have part 2 tomorrow.

Hahahahahahahahaha... GOOD ONE Rastak. X 10

[RashanGary]

Right, it's not exact. The Packers did want him back, just not badly enough for him to get away with leaving his team to grow alone in the offseason only to show up on sundays and act like he's one of hte guys.

[pbmax]

No one person, even a witness, has a monopoly on truth. It can't just be about Favre. And the agendas of Favre and the Packers do not have to mesh.

Fans are rightfully more concerned about the franchise than the QB. At this point, I am more concerned about McCarthy and Rodgers than I am about Favre. Brett's desires are just passing the time until training camp.

Yes sure your feelings are respected by me JH, but this isn't about Aaron Rodgers 'the next Packer starting QB' and what MM thinks of his abilities /skills.

This is about a man wanting to get his side of the story viewed in public. This is about integrity and honor and due respect. This is about 'the TRUTH'.

This is about Packer fans/ NFL fans... hearing Favre's side of the story.

[RIPackerFan]

My Take:

MM and TT just signed extensions - they no longer had to immediately produce - and as thus, can take a few years of "learning" about the new QBs (with the additional losses that go with trying to find the next QB) and not worrying about a job. It was perfect timing (for them) for Favre to leave. This is the reason why they were indifferent on him leaving - this is why they are indifferent for him coming back.

They know they can have a bad year or two (just in case Arod doesn't pan out) - why do you think they picked up Broehm?

Favre feeling the pressure (since they really did have to plan), retired (feeling wrongly, that he would always be welcome back). When he started feeling around, he found out he was wrong.

There is no doubt in my mind that MM said you can't come back and you can't play for anyone else (which is why he asked for his release - I wouldn't expect anything else from any player who wants to come back). They don't want him to come back - they are not looking at having the best year next year - but what will produce in two to three years - so they are willing to "risk" this year.

While many are pissed at Favre - I can see his point - and while people are sceaming about making a decision so late in the game - how many players make the committment three weeks before the games start (i.e. Strahan).

[digitaldean]

Just listened to an interview with Greta on WSSP in Milwaukee.

She's stating the reason why he wants to be released is because he doesn't want to have a divided locker room. He understands the Packers commitment to Rodgers. Plus Greta has heard from her sources that the March meeting cancellation in Hattiesburg was due a schedule conflict last second with M3 or TT.

It's now appearing this is a he said/she said type of situation. Some of the stuff that came out during Greta's interview and BF's was that the Packers kind of called him on the wavering.

Man, I am torn about giving the guy the benefit of the doubt, If he REALLY wants to play in Green Bay and he hasn't filed his retirement papers, then he should get his butt in GB before training camp starts, talk to M3, TT, heck even the entire board of directors so this gets ironed out. But if he paints it as if he can't play in GB anymore and wants to just be released, then he better get used to riding the John Deere in Mississippi because he won't go anywhere.