NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

[Chevelle2]

What was the source of animosity for TT and M3 from Brett?

[Chevelle2]

Recap?

I will do my best although to be honest what stuck out the most to me was his tone.


Favre noted his decision when he retired was that he could not see giving 100%. He said the Packer brass wanted answer in March and he gave it as best he could. Noted some players might just come back and see where it flies, but he needed to feel 100% committed.

Noted that in June he called MM and noted he was interested in coming back. Wanted to get MM's take. He said MM really waffled and backtracked. Noted that puts him in a bad situation and there might not be a spot for him.

He expressed more interest, and he mentioned...at least two...maybe three times, that they said that He can't come back to Green Bay and they can't envision him with another team. CLEARLY he is not happy with this.


The last time he noted that with some stronger tone. He referred to them putting out things that were not true as well. Not sure what that meant, but I bet there is some things missing to the story of the supposed canceled comeback..just my hunch

He noted that despite what they say, they repeatedly noted that he did not feel like he was welcome to come in and compete.

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.

[Merlin]

Well saying "he will never be a Packer again" is kind of like saying "he isn't going to retire after a season like that". I am going to stay optimistic on this. I think the Packers have had a poor choice of words thus far and I think McCarthy is only parroting what he is told. Favre seems like he has an understanding of what is going on and he to is confused by the Packers reaction to him wanting to return. Maybe this will cause the Packers to be straightforward with their answer and at the very least cause the dialog to be there. I think there has been a lot of speculation about Favre and from what I can see, the guy wants to play but the Packers (as in Ted Thompson because we know Murphy is staying out of it as is McCarthy) don't want him to play, at all. I think that there is a good possibility that he will be a Packer should he decide to return. As I said, this may serve to get the air cleared on all fronts.

[texaspackerbacker]

He said--I don't think sarcastically--that he may just not play at all.

That would be for the best.

[Packers4Ever]

Brett said at first they told him he would not be playing in Green Bay. Then MM said he can't see him playing anywhere else. Then they said he could be a backup to Rodgers. Favre said the only time he talked to TT was June 20. He pretty much denied text messaging him a week or two ago. Favre, at the end, said he may not play anywhere. Kinda strange, mean, shocking interview. I don't know what to think. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is he won't ever be a Packer.

Brando you remember a lot more of the 'he said' stuff than I do,
I guess I was concentrating on how he looked, upbeat, I thought
and ready to talk, like he'd been holding it in for too long.
Whether he''ll ever be a Packer again is a toss-up far as I could
see and maybe that's for the best, what would their relationships
with each other be after all that's gone on?

[Bretsky]

Re: NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

Tone aside, those are the positions one would expect him to take.

Was there anything to suggest that he wouldn't take an offer to come back and compete? Or does it need to be an offer to start? Just curious if there is wiggle room.

After Tonights interview, I can't ever see Favre in Green Bay again.

He was brash; He is bitter. He is unhappy.

Continually said MM and/or Packer brass noted

You can't come back to play in GB
But we can't envision you playing somewhere else

It was very obvious that he felt pressured to make a decision sooner than he was ready......whether his perception is right or wrong.

From what I gathered Favre made it pretty clear he is not welcome based on what they have said and in contrary to what they put out in the media

[Brando19]

Brett said when he talked to MM a week or so ago telling him he wanted to come back, MM huffed and puffed around. Brett said he wasn't ready to decide in March and wished he could have had til Training Camp to decide. He said MM said, "Why didn't you say so? Ahh." Brett was like, "You told me you needed an answer by draft/free agency so you could get guys in here." He seemed puzzled that MM and TT were upset. He said he appreciates them trying to save his legacy by not trading him, but he said something along the line of 'I'm a big boy.'

[Bretsky]

After watching that interview, I am convinced that we will never see him as a Packer again.

There was definitely bitterness towards M3 and the Packers. I loved the part when he said they are trying to protect his legacy and trying to convince him to stay retired, yet they then tell him he can come back as a backup. I probably didn't explain it right, but you've gotta watch the interview.

It appeared they expressed a few times that there is not room for him and than my guess is the backup idea came out in the interview TT gave to the media.

He felt some truth was undoubtedly misrepresented. Probably safe to figure he didn't feel they were consistent with what they told him and then the media

He did not waver much at all and sounded very strong and convicted in his view. Sounded pretty believable and sincere, but not happy.

ALSO noted he wanted to play for GB ONLY and it was never his intention to try to go somewhere else until he felt he was not wanted.

What a F'ckin Mess

[Pacopete4]

When Brett Favre writes the tell all book in 10 years or so we will all know what happened, until then its he said this, they said that... its f-ing dumb. I can't believe im agreeing with John Clayton but they need a mediator in this situation to sit them both down and air it out.. and when it all comes down to that, Brett Favre will be the starter for the Packers cuz like Clayton says, he is the best QB they have... simple

[dabootski]

texaspackerbacker: i disagree that it "would be for the best". brett favre wants to play football, whether its for the pack (his #1 choice) or someone else. it is obvious now that he 100% wants to get back out on the field. he, like the rest of use, is only gonna live once and would regret not coming back until he really felt he was done. i hope like hell that the future finds him in GB again, but will be happy (and cheer) for him wherever he ends up.

unless its in minnesota. fuck the queens.

[Bossman641]

Brett said when he talked to MM a week or so ago telling him he wanted to come back, MM huffed and puffed around. Brett said he wasn't ready to decide in March and wished he could have had til Training Camp to decide. He said MM said, "Why didn't you say so? Ahh." Brett was like, "You told me you needed an answer by draft/free agency so you could get guys in here." He seemed puzzled that MM and TT were upset. He said he appreciates them trying to save his legacy by not trading him, but he said something along the line of 'I'm a big boy.'

I'm sorry, but if he expected to have til TC to decide then forget him. That is absolutely ridiculous.

[RashanGary]

Re: NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

After Tonights interview, I can't ever see Favre in Green Bay again.

He was brash; He is bitter. He is unhappy.

Continually said MM and/or Packer brass noted

You can't come back to play in GB
But we can't envision you playing somewhere else

It was very obvious that he felt pressured to make a decision sooner than he was ready......whether his perception is right or wrong.

Havel said this in April. That is how Favre feels about it. The problem is, the offseason is when guys get together and grow something special for the up coming season. IT's not right for Favre to leave his teammates to work and then just show up on Sundays like he's one of the guys. I think Brett Favre lost his ground and thinks he's above his teammates. I don't think MM or TT were ready to take him back with the disrespect he's shown to the guys he plays with.

[falco]

What a F'ckin Mess

agreed bretsky - its a helluva bad situation

[GBRulz]

Brett said when he talked to MM a week or so ago telling him he wanted to come back, MM huffed and puffed around. Brett said he wasn't ready to decide in March and wished he could have had til Training Camp to decide. He said MM said, "Why didn't you say so? Ahh." Brett was like, "You told me you needed an answer by draft/free agency so you could get guys in here." He seemed puzzled that MM and TT were upset. He said he appreciates them trying to save his legacy by not trading him, but he said something along the line of 'I'm a big boy.'

Yeah, he said he appreciates them trying to save his legacy by not trading him, but they might welcome him back as a back up.

[Chevelle2]

Hahahha the fans on the officialfavreforum are flipping "FIRE TT!!"

lol Im embarrassed they are Packer fans.