The perfect plan

[packers11]

I think its simple.

Tell Favre to get his ass back and be the starter and shut the fk up for good...

Give Aaron Rodgers a 5-6 million dollar bonus (as if he was playing) and a year added to his contract... Explain to him the tough situation and that he will indeed get his chance sooner or later.

Steve Young had to wait 4 years... Its year 3 for Rodgers, and unless Favre plans on playing for another (2-3 years) which I don't see happenning. Then it shouldn't be an issue.

[CaptainKickass]

Best Idea I've heard.

A-rod is still the future, Favre get's his wish, they could have TT, MM and BF all do a nice "we're all friends again" press conference.

Only thing I would add is to have Favre clarify - one more yr, 2 more or what? How do you make him hold to that commitment?

[dabootski]

packers11: that is EXACTLY how i've been hoping this will be resolved for the last week or so.

rodgers: bummed that he isnt starting this year. stoked that he's got some cash to blow (maybe go make it rain in vegas, i hear its all the rage in the nfl...)

favre: some hurt feelings but ultimately he is back as the leader of the team i feel he wants to be leading.

mccarthy/TT: again, some hurt feelings, but they have to know their chances of winning THIS year are better with #4 as the starter. also have some assurance that the packers/rodgers relationship is okay enough that if he works out the following season or two they have a chance at signing him up for a multi-year deal.

maybe it is just not possible/probable but it seems like a "happy/storybook/pass-me-a-tissue/i-still-love-you-too" ending to this bullshit situation.

[Carolina_Packer]

That would be cool. Once Brett gets with the team and is in work-mode, I'm sure he won't be thinking about all the dealings of the off-season.

[sheepshead]

Re: The perfect plan

I think its simple.

Tell Favre to get his ass back and be the starter and shut the fk up for good...

Give Aaron Rodgers a 5-6 million dollar bonus (as if he was playing) and a year added to his contract... Explain to him the tough situation and that he will indeed get his chance sooner or later.

Steve Young had to wait 4 years... Its year 3 for Rodgers, and unless Favre plans on playing for another (2-3 years) which I don't see happenning. Then it shouldn't be an issue.

I dont know what theyll do with ARod contract but I see Brett coming back for one more year. I dont think TT has any other good choices here.

[The Leaper]

Thompson will trade Favre. He's already made it known that Favre is not welcome as the starting QB in Green Bay...and having Brett as a backup would be counterproductive to giving Rodgers the starting job. How can the kid be expected to play when NFL legend Brett Favre is looking over his shoulder?

Favre will not be playing QB for the Packers ever again. Thompson has made is painfully clear that is not an acceptable option.

[Freak Out]

That would work for me but I have to agree with Leaper in that TT and M3 believe they have passed the point of return and are going with the post Favre retirement plan. I think they are being far to rigid and are turning their back on a QB that we all know can win....but they are the GM and HC and who knows....they could be making the right decision?

[Deputy Nutz]

This all could be over and done with. How you ask. Favre could simply put out a press release stating:

"Brett Favre is going to report to Packers Training Camp on the 27th of July, he plans on earning his job all over again through training camp, and on Monday Night Football against the Vikings he plans on being the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers."

Instead of handling this situation as an ego driven future Hall of Fame Quarterback, he needs to start handling this like the competitor and leader that all of the Packer fans across the World have come to love and respect. A little humility and hard work will go a long way in ending all this drama.

what to do with Aaron Rodgers, simple if the Packers believe so strongly in Aaron Rodgers then the Packers need to do two things. Re-up his contract. Pay him a salary this year that would equal the salary he would make if he met all of his incentives in 2008, at the minimum. Add 3 or 4 more years to his contract paying him like a top ten starter including quarantee monies. It is a risk for a player that has never started a game, but the Packer will smell like roses coming out of this fiasco.

You don't trade either Favre or Rodgers, they will both hopefully lead the Packers to victorious seasons for years to come.

[woodbuck27]

This all could be over and done with. How you ask. Favre could simply put out a press release stating:

"Brett Favre is going to report to Packers Training Camp on the 27th of July, he plans on earning his job all over again through training camp, and on Monday Night Football against the Vikings he plans on being the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers."

Instead of handling this situation as an ego driven future Hall of Fame Quarterback, he needs to start handling this like the competitor and leader that all of the Packer fans across the World have come to love and respect. A little humility and hard work will go a long way in ending all this drama.

what to do with Aaron Rodgers, simple if the Packers believe so strongly in Aaron Rodgers then the Packers need to do two things. Re-up his contract. Pay him a salary this year that would equal the salary he would make if he met all of his incentives in 2008, at the minimum. Add 3 or 4 more years to his contract paying him like a top ten starter including quarantee monies. It is a risk for a player that has never started a game, but the Packer will smell like roses coming out of this fiasco.

You don't trade either Favre or Rodgers, they will both hopefully lead the Packers to victorious seasons for years to come.

Ohhh.... how some of us pray for just something like that Nutz.

Just too simple.

[Partial]

This all could be over and done with. How you ask. Favre could simply put out a press release stating:

"Brett Favre is going to report to Packers Training Camp on the 27th of July, he plans on earning his job all over again through training camp, and on Monday Night Football against the Vikings he plans on being the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers."

Instead of handling this situation as an ego driven future Hall of Fame Quarterback, he needs to start handling this like the competitor and leader that all of the Packer fans across the World have come to love and respect. A little humility and hard work will go a long way in ending all this drama.

what to do with Aaron Rodgers, simple if the Packers believe so strongly in Aaron Rodgers then the Packers need to do two things. Re-up his contract. Pay him a salary this year that would equal the salary he would make if he met all of his incentives in 2008, at the minimum. Add 3 or 4 more years to his contract paying him like a top ten starter including quarantee monies. It is a risk for a player that has never started a game, but the Packer will smell like roses coming out of this fiasco.

You don't trade either Favre or Rodgers, they will both hopefully lead the Packers to victorious seasons for years to come.

I've got to imagine that Favre would take them up on this offer if presented. Part of me wonders if the Packers said there is no way, shape or form he will be there starting quarterback.

[Noodle]

You're dead on, Nutz, but Favre is past the point of no return on this. Wasn't it last year when he responded to questions about when and whether he was going to show up with the classic no-I-in-team line, "What are they going to do, cut me?"

He believes in his soul that it's his God-given right to start, and most of Wisconsin agrees with him. Of course, this is the exact opposite of the attitude TT is trying to create with his mania about drafting lots of guys so that there's always lots of competition at every position. Nobody can afford to get fat.

Favre is the lone hold out. He does what he wants. And I don't blame him for that, I'd feel entitled too after all he's done. But I've said before and I'll still say it still, you want your team leader to be the first guy at every work out and the last guy to leave, kind of like Driver, to at least pretend he fears getting cut.

Favre is just not capable at this point of pretending. So you can forget that particular scenario.

[woodbuck27]

You're dead on, Nutz, but Favre is past the point of no return on this. Wasn't it last year when he responded to questions about when and whether he was going to show up with the classic no-I-in-team line, "What are they going to do, cut me?"

He believes in his soul that it's his God-given right to start, and most of Wisconsin agrees with him. Of course, this is the exact opposite of the attitude TT is trying to create with his mania about drafting lots of guys so that there's always lots of competition at every position. Nobody can afford to get fat.

Favre is the lone hold out. He does what he wants. And I don't blame him for that, I'd feel entitled too after all he's done. But I've said before and I'll still say it still, you want your team leader to be the first guy at every work out and the last guy to leave, kind of like Driver, to at least pretend he fears getting cut.

Favre is just not capable at this point of pretending. So you can forget that particular scenario.

Of course I feel your right Noodle. Sadly it's over for Favre as a Packer.

He should simply retire and hide for a while.

[The Leaper]

Favre is the lone hold out. He does what he wants. And I don't blame him for that, I'd feel entitled too after all he's done. But I've said before and I'll still say it still, you want your team leader to be the first guy at every work out and the last guy to leave, kind of like Driver, to at least pretend he fears getting cut.

I see what you are saying. I think this is actually very true of Favre DURING the season. The guy works his ass off.

I don't think he loves offseason stuff. To him, it is boring and tedious. Does it pay to have your leader there...but bored? I know I'm not at all productive when I'm bored. I think that sets a worse example than not showing up at all.

These are professional adults we are dealing with, not 12 year olds. The players in the NFL get it. They know why Favre gets treated differently. They know the work and effort he has put in over the last 16 years in Green Bay. They understand the guy is 38 years old and has absorbed more punishment on the field than just about any QB in NFL history. They understand he needs time to make a decision on his future.

The notion that the players somehow will think they deserve what Favre gets is ludicrous IMO. They know why he is where he is.

[The Leaper]

I wish there was a possibility of this happening...but I doubt it.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/SPORTS01/807170359/1089/rss18

Expect Favre back as starting QB for Pack
BY DREW SHARP • FREE PRESS COLUMNIST • July 17, 2008

The flip-flop isn't necessarily a character flaw.

Changing one's mind gets a bad rap sometimes because we've become conditioned to believe that it reflects internal weakness. Staying the course -- even if it's the wrong course -- somehow echoes a sturdiness of character, even though the path potentially leads toward the edge of a cliff.

Brett Favre is now officially a self-absorbed diva, transforming in a matter of days from the Contented Warrior to the Conflicted Egotist. On Tuesday, the Associated Press reported that the former Green Bay quarterback who retired in March would petition the NFL for reinstatement to the Packers.

But Favre is guilty only of career uncertainty. If that's a crime of depleted integrity, then we'll all stand convicted of a similar charge at some point in our lives.

Favre has every right to his indecisiveness in something so personally important. But so, too, do the Packers have every right to their decisiveness in something so professionally important. The Packers cannot commit unlimited time to a superstar who can't quickly and firmly evaluate his own level of commitment.

Everybody wants a villain in this soap opera, but one doesn't exist.

There will be lasting lines drawn in the sand between Favre and the Packers' management in the coming days, but emotions inevitably will give way to common sense within both camps. There will be a shift in direction, and they'll find a suitable resolution that likely will bring back Favre as Green Bay's starting quarterback for one final season.

And then they'll part ways in 2009.

That's the wisest course.

That's not management caving in to public pressure or the distortions of a megalomaniac athlete. It's simply a matter of not allowing ego masquerading as toughness to cloud reasoned judgment.

The political animus currently coursing through this nation resulted from a stubborn unwillingness in those elected to acknowledge prior mistakes.

But often, the best judgment isn't steadfastly clinging to the emotional whims of the immediate moment.

There are worse things than being branded a flip-flopper. Would wearing the tag of "hard-headed loser" feel any better?

The Packers' best chance of returning to the Super Bowl this season is squeezing another year of what remains in Favre's arm and guts. They know that. They appreciate that, even though they have one of the league's younger teams, there remains a win-now urgency in the NFL.

And there's also a local fan base that genuflects whenever it sees No. 4.

But it's never easy for the individual or the team when a brilliant career approaches its twilight.

Barry Sanders seems classy and dignified now because he walked away from football and never looked back. But he was initially painted a quitter when, 10 years ago, he bolted from the Lions on the eve of training camp after giving mixed signals for months about whether he would retire.

Like Favre, Sanders was dismayed with team management. Like Favre, Sanders believed his automatic Hall of Fame credentials liberated him from the constraints of a specific team-orchestrated timetable. And like Favre, Sanders retired knowing that he could still perform at a Pro Bowl level.

But it doesn't necessarily profess a stronger character that Sanders kept his word.

It just made him a lesser competitor.

Give me the flip-flopper, because buried beneath the indecisiveness burns a strong desire to win.

[mission]

Hey speaking of soap opera... relax on the drama there Woody.

Desire and doing something about it are two separate things. You dont gotta TELL anyone how bad you want something when you're just there ... getting the damn thing.

Pretty simple.

This isn't a perfect situation. It's retarded and that simple "press release" and having Favre back will split the locker room. Make no mistake about it. You guys don't understand team dynamics very well if you think otherwise.