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  • #16
    Re: The perfect plan

    Originally posted by packers11
    I think its simple.

    Tell Favre to get his ass back and be the starter and shut the fk up for good...

    Give Aaron Rodgers a 5-6 million dollar bonus (as if he was playing) and a year added to his contract... Explain to him the tough situation and that he will indeed get his chance sooner or later.

    Steve Young had to wait 4 years... Its year 3 for Rodgers, and unless Favre plans on playing for another (2-3 years) which I don't see happenning. Then it shouldn't be an issue.
    I think it's simple also. He's under contract. Put up or shut up. He said he might "call the Packers bluff"....GOOD, then put the man pants on and do it. stop the talk and do something.
    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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    • #17
      This would be a perfect plan.
      Ted Thompson takes a look at how Coach Ken Wisenhunt handled the Matt Leinart-Kurt Warner QB controversy situation last year in Arizona. Matt Leinart struggled at the beginning of the season. Coach knew that Warner could come off of the bench and win some games. In a brilliant coaching maneuver, Coach created a “Package” where Kurt Warner would come into the game and run plays from that package, while Leinart regrouped on the sidelines. While being interviewed Coach avoided anyone labeling it a QB controversy by answering “Matt is the starter, and Kurt comes in on packages that have been designed for him. “
      Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
      You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
      To much of a good thing is an awesome thing

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GoPackGo
        This would be a perfect plan.
        Ted Thompson takes a look at how Coach Ken Wisenhunt handled the Matt Leinart-Kurt Warner QB controversy situation last year in Arizona. Matt Leinart struggled at the beginning of the season. Coach knew that Warner could come off of the bench and win some games. In a brilliant coaching maneuver, Coach created a “Package” where Kurt Warner would come into the game and run plays from that package, while Leinart regrouped on the sidelines. While being interviewed Coach avoided anyone labeling it a QB controversy by answering “Matt is the starter, and Kurt comes in on packages that have been designed for him. “
        Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
        You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
        And what was Arizona's record again? How many playoff games did they win again?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by GoPackGo
          Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
          You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
          I brought that idea up several weeks ago...and I think it could EASILY work in Green Bay. McCarthy is a strong enough offensive coach to pull it off, and Favre and Rodgers both have enough experience in the system that it could work. It would be to the Packers benefit...because the differences between the 2 QBs in how defenses have to play them, like Leinart and Warner, are striking.

          Design packages for Rodgers and let him run 2-3 series per game as well as mop-up duty. It would likely reduce Favre's attempts to under 400 for the season and keep him fresh for a stretch run.
          My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cpk1994
            And what was Arizona's record again? How many playoff games did they win again?
            That isn't the question. There is more that goes into that than just the QB position.

            The question is whether or not the Cardinals were better with the QB combo than they would've been just going with Leinart alone.

            I think the answer is yes. Their record would've been worse if Leinart was left to flounder on his own.
            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by The Leaper
              Originally posted by GoPackGo
              Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
              You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
              I brought that idea up several weeks ago...and I think it could EASILY work in Green Bay. McCarthy is a strong enough offensive coach to pull it off, and Favre and Rodgers both have enough experience in the system that it could work. It would be to the Packers benefit...because the differences between the 2 QBs in how defenses have to play them, like Leinart and Warner, are striking.

              Design packages for Rodgers and let him run 2-3 series per game as well as mop-up duty. It would likely reduce Favre's attempts to under 400 for the season and keep him fresh for a stretch run.
              Again, what was Arizona's record? How maany playoff games did they win? That was a real brilliant strategy.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by cpk1994
                Originally posted by GoPackGo
                This would be a perfect plan.
                Ted Thompson takes a look at how Coach Ken Wisenhunt handled the Matt Leinart-Kurt Warner QB controversy situation last year in Arizona. Matt Leinart struggled at the beginning of the season. Coach knew that Warner could come off of the bench and win some games. In a brilliant coaching maneuver, Coach created a “Package” where Kurt Warner would come into the game and run plays from that package, while Leinart regrouped on the sidelines. While being interviewed Coach avoided anyone labeling it a QB controversy by answering “Matt is the starter, and Kurt comes in on packages that have been designed for him. “
                Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
                You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
                And what was Arizona's record again? How many playoff games did they win again?
                The Packers are better than the Cardinals at nearly every position. The Cardinals didn't miss the playoffs because of the QB situation, rather they missed the playoffs because they aren't that good and they had injuries.
                To much of a good thing is an awesome thing

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Again, what was Arizona's record? How maany playoff games did they win? That was a real brilliant strategy.
                  Again...that isn't the question at hand. Comparing the depth and talent of the two rosters overall is ludicrous.
                  My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The Leaper
                    Originally posted by GoPackGo
                    Why can’t Brett be the starting QB with Rodgers coming in for certain packages?
                    You get the best of both worlds. HOF QB remains on the team, young QB in training gets an opportunity to show what he can do.
                    I brought that idea up several weeks ago...and I think it could EASILY work in Green Bay. McCarthy is a strong enough offensive coach to pull it off, and Favre and Rodgers both have enough experience in the system that it could work. It would be to the Packers benefit...because the differences between the 2 QBs in how defenses have to play them, like Leinart and Warner, are striking.

                    Design packages for Rodgers and let him run 2-3 series per game as well as mop-up duty. It would likely reduce Favre's attempts to under 400 for the season and keep him fresh for a stretch run.
                    looks like you already thought of this before my post!
                    To much of a good thing is an awesome thing

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                    • #25
                      I don't like the concept of revolving quarterbacks. In my experience, it rarely works at the collegiate or pro level. The QB's lose continuity and are focused on avoiding mistakes rather than making proactive moves.

                      It also breeds discontent. You end up with camps among the players and fans as to who should be the lone starter.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by oregonpackfan
                        I don't like the concept of revolving quarterbacks. In my experience, it rarely works at the collegiate or pro level. The QB's lose continuity and are focused on avoiding mistakes rather than making proactive moves.

                        It also breeds discontent. You end up with camps among the players and fans as to who should be the lone starter.
                        Yeah.

                        It won't work.

                        Mobs and Pro Football teams both need the same thing.

                        1 man to lead 'em.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          Originally posted by cpk1994
                          Again, what was Arizona's record? How maany playoff games did they win? That was a real brilliant strategy.
                          Again...that isn't the question at hand. Comparing the depth and talent of the two rosters overall is ludicrous.
                          Actually that is the part of the question as it was hailed as a brilliant move. Their record proves otherwise. Revolving QB don't work.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by oregonpackfan
                            I don't like the concept of revolving quarterbacks. In my experience, it rarely works at the collegiate or pro level. The QB's lose continuity and are focused on avoiding mistakes rather than making proactive moves.
                            I agree that most times it is counterproductive. However, the Packer situation is also rare. How often does an NFL team have TWO guys on the roster with a firm knowledge of the team's system and that are both capable starters?

                            Your point revolves around QB situations where guys are COMPETING and roles are not really understood. Your point revolves around situations where the team isn't even sure who the better QB is or who should be starting.

                            In my viewpoint, the Packers situation would not be one of competition. I don't see the players taking sides...I think the players like and respect both Favre and Rodgers, although in different ways of course. Favre would start because he is far more experienced and offers the best chance at winning...but Rodgers should also play because he brings things to the table that Favre can't, and that forces the opposing defense to have to spread their preparation thin to cover all the bases.
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #29
                              I don't know -- it worked pretty well for Florida with Leak and Teabow, and it used to be not uncommon at the college level to rotate qbs.

                              If Favre is going to be a Packer, and I have huge doubts about that, I'd want A-Rod to get live reps this year in situations where it mattered. The organization needs to know whether A-Rod can be the man, and the best way to find out is to let the kid develop a body of work.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Noodle
                                I don't know -- it worked pretty well for Florida with Leak and Teabow, and it used to be not uncommon at the college level to rotate qbs.

                                If Favre is going to be a Packer, and I have huge doubts about that, I'd want A-Rod to get live reps this year in situations where it mattered. The organization needs to know whether A-Rod can be the man, and the best way to find out is to let the kid develop a body of work.
                                It was not uncommon at the college level.....until coaches realized it just didn't work. Tebow and Leak were the exception, not the rule.

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