Favre waiting on reinstatement

[packers11]

So if he doesnt hand in the papers, we can assume he is staying retired?

Definitely... Especially if he misses any part of training camp...

[Chevelle2]

So if he doesnt hand in the papers, we can assume he is staying retired?

Definitely... Especially if he misses any part of training camp...

Gotcha, thanks for helping me getting it cleared in my head.

[Patler]

McCarthy calling Favre every week beginning in February for a status report? C'mon now. There was no need to be that much up Favre's ass in February.

Yet Favre, or maybe it was his family, complained that he heard too little from the Packers, and didn't feel wanted.

This whole "rushed" thing from Favre sounds like the misbehaving child who yells, "He made me do it....He made me do it!"

[packers11]

Interesting side notes :

Baltimore Ravens Westminster, Md. July 21 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)
Miami Dolphins Davie, Fla. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
New York Jets Hempstead, N.Y. July 16 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)
Carolina Panthers Spartanburg, S.C. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
Green Bay Packers Green Bay, Wis. July 27 (rookies and veterans)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Lake Buena Vista, Fla. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
Washington Redskins Ashburn, Va. July 19 (rookies and veterans)

To all the potential teams he could be playing for, their training camp starts earlier than the packers. So if something is going to be worked out, it has to be pretty damn soon...

[lod01]

if he wants out, would he send the papers in? im admitedly confused

Can someone answer this for me?

He has to send in papers. The Packers are not going to budge because they don't have to. He said he retired. Unless he sends in paperwork saying he is going to play, they don't have to do anything. He can't sign anywhere, no team will talk to him etc. He is Packers property for 2 more years because that's what his contract says. He can want out all he wants but without saying he's coming back in writing, why would the packers just release him when they don't have to?

[sharpe1027]

Well, the Packers didn't go to the NFCC game after 2005 or 2006...so he had an additional 3 weeks right there to make a decision.

His decision after the 4-12 year took quite awhile, considering where the team would've been if he had retired.

I think this year's was very quick mainly because I don't see why it needed to be made so rapidly. The Packers had a guy ready to go behind Favre. They were covered no matter what his decision was...so why not let the guy take some time to recover from a whirlwind season filled with so many ups and downs?

McCarthy calling Favre every week beginning in February for a status report? C'mon now. There was no need to be that much up Favre's ass in February.

So they can't ask him to come back and then check up on him once a week, but at the same time they didn't do enough to try to get him back? C'mon now, you can't have it both ways.

[mngolf19]

Interesting side notes :

Baltimore Ravens Westminster, Md. July 21 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)
Miami Dolphins Davie, Fla. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
New York Jets Hempstead, N.Y. July 16 (rookies), July 23 (veterans)
Carolina Panthers Spartanburg, S.C. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
Green Bay Packers Green Bay, Wis. July 27 (rookies and veterans)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Lake Buena Vista, Fla. July 25 (rookies and veterans)
Washington Redskins Ashburn, Va. July 19 (rookies and veterans)

To all the potential teams he could be playing for, their training camp starts earlier than the packers. So if something is going to be worked out, it has to be pretty damn soon...

Unless one of them suffers an injury then they could be interested farther down the line.

[twoseven]

This is all a PR campaign cooked up over beers between Favre/Cook and TT/MM, etc.

Jerry Jones is really pissed that he didn't come up with a plan like this.

The Packers were asked to be the team that would be on HBO's inside training camp, or whatever it's called, this summer (like the Chiefs and Ravens before them). They said no, MM didn't like the idea of players being on tv as they were being cut. Just imagine what that would have been like if we were still in it. That would have be some good ass television.

Jerry Jones is still happy because HIS team IS going to be the one on HBO this summer.

[cpk1994]

This is all a PR campaign cooked up over beers between Favre/Cook and TT/MM, etc.

Jerry Jones is really pissed that he didn't come up with a plan like this.

The Packers were asked to be the team that would be on HBO's inside training camp, or whatever it's called, this summer (like the Chiefs and Ravens before them). They said no, MM didn't like the idea of players being on tv as they were being cut. Just imagine what that would have been like if we were still in it. That would have be some good ass television.

Jerry Jones is still happy because HIS team IS going to be the one on HBO this summer.

Sure,but how many watch ESPN vs. HBO? That is well in ESPN's favor and I would say that Jones would prefer all that time on ESPN over HBO in a heartbeat.

[twoseven]

Ideally you would think any potential suitor would like Favre as early as possible. But there's no reason why he can't be trade bait into and during the season for a team that finds themselves in a deseprate situation should their QB not play well or injuries happen. I guess I don't see why a training camp date should be some kind of firm deadline. Would a team like Tampa, if they are interested in Favre, actually waver on the idea of a trade if they can't get him in time for their camp?

[The Leaper]

So they can't ask him to come back and then check up on him once a week, but at the same time they didn't do enough to try to get him back? C'mon now, you can't have it both ways.

I'm just saying that a weekly status report a few weeks removed from the season...considering the circumstances (aging player, capable replacement ready to go)...makes it seem like the Packers were really looking for a quick answer. In that sense, I can understand how Favre would've felt pressured to make a decision.

I've never said the Packers didn't do enough to try to get him back. Personally, I don't think a team has to do much of anything in that regard. It is the player's decision whether or not they want to play...some players may want to know they are part of future plans or whatever, but the player is still responsible for his own career decisions.

[cpk1994]

Ideally you would think any potential suitor would like Favre as early as possible. But there's no reason why he can't be trade bait into and during the season for a team that finds themselves in a deseprate situation should their QB not play well or injuries happen. I guess I don't see why a training camp date should be some kind of firm deadline. Would a team like Tampa, if they are interested in Favre, actually waver on the idea of a trade if they can't get him in time for their camp?

Its about learning the offense(WCO version) that his potential new team has and getting cohesion with his potential new teammates. Do you think Favre could really come in during the regular season on less than a weeks notice and just guide the team with no problems?

[twoseven]

This is all a PR campaign cooked up over beers between Favre/Cook and TT/MM, etc.

Jerry Jones is really pissed that he didn't come up with a plan like this.

The Packers were asked to be the team that would be on HBO's inside training camp, or whatever it's called, this summer (like the Chiefs and Ravens before them). They said no, MM didn't like the idea of players being on tv as they were being cut. Just imagine what that would have been like if we were still in it. That would have be some good ass television.

Jerry Jones is still happy because HIS team IS going to be the one on HBO this summer.

Sure,but how many watch ESPN vs. HBO? That is well in ESPN's favor and I would say that Jones would prefer all that time on ESPN over HBO in a heartbeat.

I was joking around.

[twoseven]

Ideally you would think any potential suitor would like Favre as early as possible. But there's no reason why he can't be trade bait into and during the season for a team that finds themselves in a deseprate situation should their QB not play well or injuries happen. I guess I don't see why a training camp date should be some kind of firm deadline. Would a team like Tampa, if they are interested in Favre, actually waver on the idea of a trade if they can't get him in time for their camp?

Its about learning the offense(WCO version) that his potential new team has and getting cohesion with his potential new teammates. Do you think Favre could really come in during the regular season on less than a weeks notice and just guide the team with no problems?

If Vinny Testaverde can go from his couch one week to leading the Panthers to victory the next week, why can't Favre. I didn't say it was ideal (as the first sentence stated), just that it shouldn't be ruled out.

[sharpe1027]

So they can't ask him to come back and then check up on him once a week, but at the same time they didn't do enough to try to get him back? C'mon now, you can't have it both ways.

I'm just saying that a weekly status report a few weeks removed from the season...considering the circumstances (aging player, capable replacement ready to go)...makes it seem like the Packers were really looking for a quick answer. In that sense, I can understand how Favre would've felt pressured to make a decision.

I've never said the Packers didn't do enough to try to get him back. Personally, I don't think a team has to do much of anything in that regard. It is the player's decision whether or not they want to play...some players may want to know they are part of future plans or whatever, but the player is still responsible for his own career decisions.

Fair enough.

My question is what does it matter if they called weekly? Do you blame them for asking? If so, what about the MM saying that all Favre had to do was ask for more time? The certainly didn't give him an ultimatum, at best they prodded him weekly for a decision.