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  • #76
    Originally posted by Chevelle2
    I was under the impression Favre may have been allowed to compete....is this not the case anymore? I think thats kind of unfair....thoughts?
    IT sounds like the PAckers see Favre as a disruptive force on the team.

    The question as to whether it is fair comes down to whether Favre truly is willing to accept a backup job. If his idea of a competition is that he "of course" will win the job, as he has suggested, then it doesn't sound like he will accept a coaches decision unless it goes his way.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Chevelle2
      I was under the impression Favre may have been allowed to compete....is this not the case anymore? I think thats kind of unfair....thoughts?
      I don't think he was ever told that. He's full of BS, like he has been since the beginning. Does anybody honestly believe TT was "shattered?" Or that he begged himb to stay away. It doesn't even jive with what Favre said earlier this weekend when he said it was a cordial conversation and they agreed that he'd give them a few days.

      And how would this cost TT his job? How can anybody believe TT said this? Everybody who matters in the organization has put up a united front in support of the Packers position since this whole mess started. How now is TT is danger of being fired? It's a load of crap. Now TT was an unreasonable, emotional wreck.

      I love how everybody says the Packers are being disrespectful towards Favre. Favre has been the only one who has disrespected anybody in this whole mess. The Packers have been pretty tight lipped about it. He sounds like somebody who's trying so hard to sway things his way that he's just exhagerating or out right lying about everything. He's desparately trying to make the Packers look bad. It's kind of sad how many people buy it.
      GO PACK!!!!

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      • #78
        I don't care if he goes to Minny either. I want him to be cut the day before the start of the season though. Not now, he'd have shown that you can throw a pissy fit and get your way.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by PackerTimer
          Originally posted by Chevelle2
          I was under the impression Favre may have been allowed to compete....is this not the case anymore? I think thats kind of unfair....thoughts?
          I don't think he was ever told that. He's full of BS, like he has been since the beginning. Does anybody honestly believe TT was "shattered?" Or that he begged himb to stay away. It doesn't even jive with what Favre said earlier this weekend when he said it was a cordial conversation and they agreed that he'd give them a few days.

          And how would this cost TT his job? How can anybody believe TT said this? Everybody who matters in the organization has put up a united front in support of the Packers position since this whole mess started. How now is TT is danger of being fired? It's a load of crap. Now TT was an unreasonable, emotional wreck.

          I love how everybody says the Packers are being disrespectful towards Favre. Favre has been the only one who has disrespected anybody in this whole mess. The Packers have been pretty tight lipped about it. He sounds like somebody who's trying so hard to sway things his way that he's just exhagerating or out right lying about everything. He's desparately trying to make the Packers look bad. It's kind of sad how many people buy it.
          Never underestimate the tenacity of the Favre worshippers.
          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Originally posted by Chevelle2
            I was under the impression Favre may have been allowed to compete....is this not the case anymore? I think thats kind of unfair....thoughts?
            IT sounds like the PAckers see Favre as a disruptive force on the team.

            The question as to whether it is fair comes down to whether Favre truly is willing to accept a backup job. If his idea of a competition is that he "of course" will win the job, as he has suggested, then it doesn't sound like he will accept a coaches decision unless it goes his way.
            Good point HH. Favre said in the interview that they (the Packers) know he'd win the job. Do they? With him saying stuff like this already maybe the Packers simply know that if at the end of camp they don't give the job to Favre he'll start whining to the media again.
            GO PACK!!!!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by PackerTimer
              Does anybody honestly believe TT was "shattered?" Or that he begged himb to stay away.
              I think Thompson manipulated Favre and got what he wanted - Favre out of camp for a few days. Favre's retelling is probably an exaggeration, but its also probably true he doesn't realize that he was played.

              Favre sounds like Jed Clampett laughing at the fools from the oil company who wanted to give him thousands of dollars for his land.

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              • #82
                Here's the exact quote from the Morenson article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3507141
                "I said, 'Let me compete, you'll know I'll win this job' and Ted said again, 'Brett, things have changed. Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback.' It's pretty clear -- and this is what I told the commissioner -- that they want me to go away, stay retired. They would much rather see me in a Packers' uniform, paying me $12 million to be a backup -- which you know they really don't want -- rather than see in another uniform, no matter what they say. They'll drag this out, asking a king's ransom [in a trade], hoping it all goes away."
                So they never explicitly denied him any opportunity. They just let him know Aaron's job to lose at this point, the same as in most quarterback competitions.

                And considering that Brett turned down the two teams offering a dime for him, he can't really talk about stalling trade options. The team's right. Pay him 12.7 million to be a backup.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by boiga
                  Here's the exact quote from the Morenson article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3507141
                  "I said, 'Let me compete, you'll know I'll win this job' and Ted said again, 'Brett, things have changed. Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback.' It's pretty clear -- and this is what I told the commissioner -- that they want me to go away, stay retired. They would much rather see me in a Packers' uniform, paying me $12 million to be a backup -- which you know they really don't want -- rather than see in another uniform, no matter what they say. They'll drag this out, asking a king's ransom [in a trade], hoping it all goes away."
                  So they never explicitly denied him any opportunity. They just let him know Aaron's job to lose at this point, the same as in most quarterback competitions.

                  And considering that Brett turned down the two teams offering a dime for him, he can't really talk about stalling trade options. The team's right. Pay him 12.7 million to be a backup.
                  He did?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Chevelle2
                    Originally posted by boiga
                    Here's the exact quote from the Morenson article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3507141
                    "I said, 'Let me compete, you'll know I'll win this job' and Ted said again, 'Brett, things have changed. Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback.' It's pretty clear -- and this is what I told the commissioner -- that they want me to go away, stay retired. They would much rather see me in a Packers' uniform, paying me $12 million to be a backup -- which you know they really don't want -- rather than see in another uniform, no matter what they say. They'll drag this out, asking a king's ransom [in a trade], hoping it all goes away."
                    So they never explicitly denied him any opportunity. They just let him know Aaron's job to lose at this point, the same as in most quarterback competitions.

                    And considering that Brett turned down the two teams offering a dime for him, he can't really talk about stalling trade options. The team's right. Pay him 12.7 million to be a backup.
                    He did?


                    It appears Tuesday is Favre's soft deadline to report to camp or possibly be traded. According to Favre, Thompson asked him if he was interested in a trade. "Yeah, but not just to the teams you want me to go to," Favre said, relaying his conversation with the Packers' GM.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #85
                      You should really read that Mortenson article... but then again if I had a headache, I wouldn't want to either. Here's the relevant quote again: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3507141
                      It appears Tuesday is Favre's soft deadline to report to camp or possibly be traded. According to Favre, Thompson asked him if he was interested in a trade. "Yeah, but not just to the teams you want me to go to," Favre said, relaying his conversation with the Packers' GM.
                      So yeah, he's refuesed the Bucs and the Jets. I don't think he's realized that no one else wants him though. This is what is leading people to believe that he'll just stay retired after all.

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                      • #86
                        I've been as consistently as anybody in favor of the actions of Thompson, McCarthy, etc. and against what is attributed to Favre. I REPEAT, though, I don't think Favre is voluntarily coming up with most of the shit he is attributed to be saying.

                        He is giving half-hearted "yes" answers to rotten leading questions by a bunch of God damned media troublemakers. To a very very limited extent, Favre is to blame, but not near as badly as many in here seem to be saying. He isn't a villain; He is merely a not-too-bright dupe of media assholes trying to stir up trouble.
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                        • #87
                          TT and MM know Favre can't come into camp. No matter what they do...separate him, keep him in his own room, put him in rehab, it will be a media circus and everyone will understand they don't want him to compete....just to go away.

                          I have a feeling that if it goes that way, no matter how many bridges Favre has burned, Goodell will get involved. No way will he let this drag out....you think that Goodell is getting involved now, wait until Favre comes to camp and the Packers make it clear he will not compete for the starting job.

                          Frankly, I am surprised that anyone thinks that they will let him compete. Everything that TT and MM has said so far is basically they will not let him compete....that Arod is the QB. I personally believe that Brett wants to compete....and while he may get pissed if he is not annointed the starter, if Arod truly outplays him, then its it will be reported and he loses even more traction.

                          However, if he does outplay Arod in the preseason and they don't let him start.....it will get rip the team apart.
                          'Til the End

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                          • #88
                            He wants to get cut and go to the Vikings. I would wait till the last day of camp and cut him.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by boiga
                              So yeah, he's refuesed the Bucs and the Jets. I don't think he's realized that no one else wants him though. This is what is leading people to believe that he'll just stay retired after all.
                              The only reason I can think of refusing the Bucs is the story about it being too hot.

                              I think Favre is just going to keep this drama going in hopes of getting his release. Good luck with that. Best case for Favre is that an injury occurs to Aaron Rodgers or to another QB on a top-tier NFL team.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                                He wants to get cut and go to the Vikings. I would wait till the last day of camp and cut him.
                                why cut him? Let him be the backup. OR if he's being a bitch, pay him to sit home.


                                But I don't think we're gonna get to this point, we won't see Favre in a packer jersey again.

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