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  • Originally posted by RIPackerFan
    Sorry....don't believe it.

    You don't think Driver, Clifton, and the other vets aren't going to be on Favre's side? You don't think they will let that be known.
    Those guys will accept who ever management tells them is the leader... unless that leader starts losing games for them. Ted and M3 have built up a lot of good relationships with the veterans by quietly paying them when what they deserved. Our vets are as happy with management as any team in the league.

    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
    Well after all of this, I can pretty much claim to hate 75% of all the posters here at Packerrats. It is a sad day when I have to cross over to the thoughts and feelings of Partial and Packerblues. I actually half heartedly agree with Tex's crazy idea of blaming the media.

    Funny, Brett Favre helped rebuild Lambeau Field, and restore the legend of the mighty Green Bay Packers, he gave this team everything he had and more, and now they won't even allow him in the door. Shameful day in Packerland. It makes me down right sick to my stomach. You all can bitch and hate on Favre with his media act, but he has the right, he is pissed. They won't let him in the door to even compete for a starting QB job, but yet they won't get a deal done so the man can play football.

    All I can say is, Aaron Rodgers better be able to play some football, because right now he has more eyes on him than any other QB in the National football league. He fails, the Ted fails, and McCarthy fails.

    Disgusting simply disgusting.
    We love you anyways, and I agree that if Rodgers can't play everyone in the organization is screwed.

    The have stated that they will let Favre in, and that they'll let him practice, they just won't necessarily let him start. Favre's message is that he "just wants to play" but if you look a little deeper, that really means he couldn't stand sitting on the bench.

    I posted this earlier, but oh well, here's one of Favre's anonymous crew: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...004/1954/PKR03
    However, the source close to Favre said if another team gets a deal in place with the Packers, Favre probably would be willing to go to the new team, depending on how his conversation with the team’s coach goes.

    “He wants to play,” the source said.
    There too it seems that no matter who he is traded to, he wants the guarantee that he won't spend the year warming the bench. Do you remember how miserable he was for the second half of that Dallas game? He even left early because he couldn't stand to watch. Brett no longer has the capability of sitting the bench happily.

    The Packers couldn't guarantee him playing time and he won't play for a team unless they do.

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    • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
      Compete under fair circumstances, thats what I would hope for. I don't think Rodgers can beat Favre out. Simply not enough game experience to handle everything an opposing team
      ya, but you are never gonna get that fair competition. Rodgers would have to totally stink it up to lose his job. The coaches don't have to allow a "fair competition" in the sense of an objective comparison. They are entitled to their own subjective reasons, some not related to current performance.

      I basically agree with you, though, I wish Favre would come into camp, and just let the chips fall where they may.

      But they can't do that if Favre is not prepared to play second fiddle if that's what the coaches decide.
      Then it is too bad because regardless the best player should play, It is PRIDE fucking everything up.

      Favre shouldn't play second fiddle, if he can't beat out Rodgers, then well he should go back to retirement.

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      • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
        Well after all of this, I can pretty much claim to hate 75% of all the posters here at Packerrats. It is a sad day when I have to cross over to the thoughts and feelings of Partial and Packerblues. I actually half heartedly agree with Tex's crazy idea of blaming the media.
        Nutzy, the sooner you realize that I've got a good head on my shoulders the better off we'll be.

        Favre is getting a raw deal. It's unfortunate.

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        • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          Well after all of this, I can pretty much claim to hate 75% of all the posters here at Packerrats. It is a sad day when I have to cross over to the thoughts and feelings of Partial and Packerblues. I actually half heartedly agree with Tex's crazy idea of blaming the media.

          Funny, Brett Favre helped rebuild Lambeau Field, and restore the legend of the mighty Green Bay Packers, he gave this team everything he had and more, and now they won't even allow him in the door. Shameful day in Packerland. It makes me down right sick to my stomach. You all can bitch and hate on Favre with his media act, but he has the right, he is pissed. They won't let him in the door to even compete for a starting QB job, but yet they won't get a deal done so the man can play football.

          All I can say is, Aaron Rodgers better be able to play some football, because right now he has more eyes on him than any other QB in the National football league. He fails, the Ted fails, and McCarthy fails.

          Disgusting simply disgusting.
          Yeah, it's a sad day because your idol is sitting in interviews and throwing his current OL, WR's and coach under the bus because he ddin't like the ones TT gave him. He doesn't want to show up to fight for the job he retired from back. He said "why should I". He's flip flopping around, not even knowing if he wants to play football anymore and then expects his coach to take the job from the hard workign kid who acctually committed to the program and loves his teammates.

          He wants to be released and he's throwing a huge hissy fit. The only thing sad in all of this is Brett FAvre.
          Hey dumbass, he threw the shitty offensive linemen under the bus that started here for a year when Favre was running for his life when we went 4-12. Aka, he put up with the bad shit, and wanted TT to sign the best receiver ever for pennies. I cannot believe you can accuse him of being a dumbass after the numbers and behavior Moss exhibited this year.

          In retrospect, your boy TT looks like an idiot for not pulling the Moss trigger. He set an NFL record for touchdowns and was as good of an influence as we could have asked for. Hell, maybe he would have put us over the top and got us a superbowl win.

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          • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
            Favre should play second fiddle, if he can't beat out Rodgers, then well he should go back to retirement.
            I guess you meant to say "shouldn't play second fiddle".

            I suppose that Favre agrees 100% with you.

            And it is exactly why the Packers don't want him in camp - he won't accept the coaches decision if it goes against him.

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            • Originally posted by Partial
              Nutzy, the sooner you realize that I've got a good head on my shoulders the better off we'll be.
              "love me, daddy"

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              • Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                Well after all of this, I can pretty much claim to hate 75% of all the posters here at Packerrats. It is a sad day when I have to cross over to the thoughts and feelings of Partial and Packerblues. I actually half heartedly agree with Tex's crazy idea of blaming the media.

                Funny, Brett Favre helped rebuild Lambeau Field, and restore the legend of the mighty Green Bay Packers, he gave this team everything he had and more, and now they won't even allow him in the door. Shameful day in Packerland. It makes me down right sick to my stomach. You all can bitch and hate on Favre with his media act, but he has the right, he is pissed. They won't let him in the door to even compete for a starting QB job, but yet they won't get a deal done so the man can play football.

                All I can say is, Aaron Rodgers better be able to play some football, because right now he has more eyes on him than any other QB in the National football league. He fails, the Ted fails, and McCarthy fails.

                Disgusting simply disgusting.
                Yeah, it's a sad day because your idol is sitting in interviews and throwing his current OL, WR's and coach under the bus because he ddin't like the ones TT gave him. He doesn't want to show up to fight for the job he retired from back. He said "why should I". He's flip flopping around, not even knowing if he wants to play football anymore and then expects his coach to take the job from the hard workign kid who acctually committed to the program and loves his teammates.

                He wants to be released and he's throwing a huge hissy fit. The only thing sad in all of this is Brett FAvre.
                Hey dumbass, he threw the shitty offensive linemen under the bus that started here for a year when Favre was running for his life when we went 4-12. Aka, he put up with the bad shit, and wanted TT to sign the best receiver ever for pennies. I cannot believe you can accuse him of being a dumbass after the numbers and behavior Moss exhibited this year.

                In retrospect, your boy TT looks like an idiot for not pulling the Moss trigger. He set an NFL record for touchdowns and was as good of an influence as we could have asked for. Hell, maybe he would have put us over the top and got us a superbowl win.
                LIke he helped the Patriots win the SUper Bowl. Oh wait. The only one that looks like an idiot is you.

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                • Hey everyone. Let's not let this tear us appart. It's acctually good fun if you loosen up a bit.

                  If you believe the Packers will suck, who cares. It's a football game. People are dropping dead with war and disease. Women are getting raped, childeren abused and neglected. This really isn't that big. IT's not worth hating anyone over.

                  IF you believe the Packers will be better for it, then you can wait and watch. Maybe you'll be right, maybe not but there are better things to do than hate a bunch of people you see as blind loyalists.


                  This is really a great time to be a Packer fan. We get to learn about messy squabbles and watch football at the same time. Look on the bright side of things and don't let your lives revolve around what happens iwth the Packers or Brett Favre. It's a fun distraction, not a reason for depression, anger or disgust. Just have fun with it. That's why we follow.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    Hey everyone. Let's not let this tear us appart. It's acctually good fun if you loosen up a bit.

                    If you believe the Packers will suck, who cares. It's a football game. People are dropping dead with war and disease. Women are getting raped, childeren abused and neglected. This really isn't that big. IT's not worth hating anyone over.

                    IF you believe the Packers will be better for it, then you can wait and watch. Maybe you'll be right, maybe not but there are better things to do than hate a bunch of people you see as blind loyalists.


                    This is really a great time to be a Packer fan. We get to learn about messy squabbles and watch football at the same time. Look on the bright side of things and don't let your lives revolve around what happens iwth the Packers or Brett Favre. It's a fun distraction, not a reason for depression, anger or disgust. Just have fun with it. That's why we follow.
                    Honestly it is a horrible time to be a Packer fan. Regardless how you feel about Brett Favre, Ted Thompson, or Mike McCarthy it is embarrassing and pathetic situation for this organization to be in.

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                    • Amen, Nutz.
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Honestly it is a horrible time to be a Packer fan. Regardless how you feel about Brett Favre, Ted Thompson, or Mike McCarthy it is embarrassing and pathetic situation for this organization to be in.
                        Agreed. The Favre saga is fascinating in a train wreck sort of way. But it is destructive for the packers, fans and Favre. 100% of it should have been done behind the scenes.

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                        • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz

                          Honestly it is a horrible time to be a Packer fan. Regardless how you feel about Brett Favre, Ted Thompson, or Mike McCarthy it is embarrassing and pathetic situation for this organization to be in.
                          I, personally, think it makes Brett look horrible but I'm not worried about it. They'll show up, work their tails off in practice and meetings. The only time they'll deal with this is when they're asked questions during the 30 minute media sessions each day. Other than that everyone has a job to earn. I don't think it's a horrible time to be a Packer fan. I'm still looking forward to the season becaue I feel very strrongly about this TEAM. I'm intrigued as hell to get a look at Rodgers too.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Interesting wrinkle to the fiasco - those people who have said Favre won't go to the Jets or the Bucs - see below:


                            That agreement, presumably, would be a trade. The New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have emerged as two potential trade partners for the Packers, and Favre told si.com that he would consider a trade to any team.

                            Stay up-to-date with the latest sports news and scores from NBC Sports.


                            If this is the case - then it really is on the Pack now.[/quote]
                            'Til the End

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                            • According to an anonymous source at the Press Gazette, Brett doesn't like the bucs or jets, but could be convinced after a talk with their coach.

                              All he's angling for is a guarantee of playing time, in my opinion.

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                              • Originally posted by cpk1994
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                                Well after all of this, I can pretty much claim to hate 75% of all the posters here at Packerrats. It is a sad day when I have to cross over to the thoughts and feelings of Partial and Packerblues. I actually half heartedly agree with Tex's crazy idea of blaming the media.

                                Funny, Brett Favre helped rebuild Lambeau Field, and restore the legend of the mighty Green Bay Packers, he gave this team everything he had and more, and now they won't even allow him in the door. Shameful day in Packerland. It makes me down right sick to my stomach. You all can bitch and hate on Favre with his media act, but he has the right, he is pissed. They won't let him in the door to even compete for a starting QB job, but yet they won't get a deal done so the man can play football.

                                All I can say is, Aaron Rodgers better be able to play some football, because right now he has more eyes on him than any other QB in the National football league. He fails, the Ted fails, and McCarthy fails.

                                Disgusting simply disgusting.
                                Yeah, it's a sad day because your idol is sitting in interviews and throwing his current OL, WR's and coach under the bus because he ddin't like the ones TT gave him. He doesn't want to show up to fight for the job he retired from back. He said "why should I". He's flip flopping around, not even knowing if he wants to play football anymore and then expects his coach to take the job from the hard workign kid who acctually committed to the program and loves his teammates.

                                He wants to be released and he's throwing a huge hissy fit. The only thing sad in all of this is Brett FAvre.
                                Hey dumbass, he threw the shitty offensive linemen under the bus that started here for a year when Favre was running for his life when we went 4-12. Aka, he put up with the bad shit, and wanted TT to sign the best receiver ever for pennies. I cannot believe you can accuse him of being a dumbass after the numbers and behavior Moss exhibited this year.

                                In retrospect, your boy TT looks like an idiot for not pulling the Moss trigger. He set an NFL record for touchdowns and was as good of an influence as we could have asked for. Hell, maybe he would have put us over the top and got us a superbowl win.
                                LIke he helped the Patriots win the SUper Bowl. Oh wait. The only one that looks like an idiot is you.
                                No, its impossible to tell. Who knows how good they'd have been without him. We know that we were damn close. Imagine having Jennings as a 3 and Driver as a 2. Our offense would have been that much better.

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