Agent: Offer to Grant "Insulting"

[Zool]

Ahh I missed this one.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/07/27/1/

Packers Sign Draft Picks Nelson, Brohm And Lee

posted 07/27/2008

The Green Bay Packers have signed wide receiver Jordy Nelson, quarterback Brian Brohm and cornerback Pat Lee. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the signings Sunday.

Nelson, the team's first of three second-round selections (No. 36 overall), enjoyed the most prolific single season in Kansas State history with 122 receptions for 1,606 yards and 11 touchdowns in 2007. The 6-foot-3, 217-pound player returned two punts for scores and threw two touchdown passes as a senior. He was a consensus All-America selection and one of three finalists for the Biletnikoff Award.

Brohm, a 6-foot-3, 223-pound signal caller, was selected No. 56 overall. A three-year starter at Louisville, he finished his career as the Big East's all-time leader in passing yards (10,775) and completions (780). He led the Big East in total offense and passing for three straight seasons (2005-07) and was awarded all-conference honors each year.

Lee, Green Bay's third second-round pick (No. 60 overall), earned second-team All-SEC recognition from the Associated Press in 2007. A 6-foot, 194-pound player from Auburn, Lee led the team with 12 passes defensed last season and tied for the team lead with four interceptions.

[Bretsky]

Or, Numb's being sarcastic.

Since when do agents whine to the press about contract negotiations. This dude needs to be fired immediately and Grant needs a real agent.

Gosh I hope you are kidding

[Partial]

He didn't lowball Kampman, Pickett, Woodson, Tausher (when he gave him extra money with no extention), Driver, Jenkins or Poppinga.


I guess he does lowball agents and players when they try to force their way out of a contract way too early. He did that with Walker and now Grant.

What? He definitely lowballed Kampman. Kampman is extremely underpaid for what he does. Tauscher and Clifton are still paid pretty low.

[BallHawk]

He didn't lowball Kampman, Pickett, Woodson, Tausher (when he gave him extra money with no extention), Driver, Jenkins or Poppinga.


I guess he does lowball agents and players when they try to force their way out of a contract way too early. He did that with Walker and now Grant.

What? He definitely lowballed Kampman. Kampman is extremely underpaid for what he does. Tauscher and Clifton are still paid pretty low.

They accepted their contracts, did they not?

Contracts are just going up and up, one year can make a helluva difference.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What? He definitely lowballed Kampman. Kampman is extremely underpaid for what he does. Tauscher and Clifton are still paid pretty low.

Partial, stick to what you know. It's in the Romper Room. At the time Kampman signed, his contract was not a lowball offer. Kampman had come off a 6.5 sack season and got a very nice package. Many thought we overpaid for him. You don't resign a guy on the verge of FA without offering a fair deal.

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=1937&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc

[The Leaper]

offering big $$$ up front would be what you do in a normal situation to an elite player, not in this situation.

1.75M isn't big money...it isn't even mediocre money by NFL standards. It is exactly what Grant's agent called it...insulting.

Poppinga is anything but elite...and he got twice what Grant was offered. If Grant is willing to sign a long term deal (5+ years) that is highly incentive laden, then the Packers should be willing to pony up around $4M in bonus coin.

Grant proved he is a capable starter last year...and has the potential to be a very good RB. He's worth way more than a 1.75M signing bonus.

[woodbuck27]

Or, Numb's being sarcastic.

Since when do agents whine to the press about contract negotiations. This dude needs to be fired immediately and Grant needs a real agent.

Gosh I hope you are kidding

Good Lord MJZiggy what has happened to YOU?

Look inside of yourself please. I see you eating yourself up. That's just sad to me. I care for YOU.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[boiga]

The difference between Poppinga and Grant is that Brady would be a free man at the end of the season. Grant either plays for us or goes home for another two years.

Sure Grant is the more valuable player, but there's not reason to pay market value for a guy who can't go on the market. I agree they should give him so fiscal security, but holding out for Hester money won't help anyone.

[The Leaper]

Sure Grant is the more valuable player, but there's not reason to pay market value for a guy who can't go on the market. I agree they should give him so fiscal security, but holding out for Hester money won't help anyone.

Grant doesn't seem to be looking to break the bank. A starting tailback capable of putting up 1500 yards and 10+ TDs in a season (which Grant seems able to do based on half a season of work) banks more coin than even Hester got. Grant certainly isn't going to get market value...we all know that.

A 1.75M bonus in today's NFL is an insult. It speaks poorly of Thompson IMO. Don't kid yourself...players around the league see this shit. Market value for Grant if he was an UFA? $20M bonus? Maybe more?

[boiga]

I agree... but we also haven't seen the full contract. There's supposed to be a lot of meat on this thing in the form of incentives. Sure, if he runs less the 1000 yards over the course of the season, he won't get paid squat, but to accomplish in a full year what he did in half a season last year would make him a bust anyways.

We don't know what he would get paid if he runs for 1500 yards, gets a probowl birth, or scores 10 touchdowns... all of which are attainable goals considering his performance last year.

If that level of performance nets him 5 million a year, then everyone should be happy, and they'd likely renegotiate something more stable in two or three years. According to the news sources, Russ Ball only slashed the guaranteed portion of the contract Herman asked for, not the incentive part. If the incentives were through the moon, Ball would be right to cut down on the guarantees.

[MadScientist]

Dude just has sleazebag written all over him. Then again do we know of any agents who aren't sleazebags these days?

There are agents that aren't sleazebags, they are the ones you don't know because the deals get done, the players and teams are happy, or at least satisfied. They also tend not to do their negotiating through the press.

[bobblehead]

Sure Grant is the more valuable player, but there's not reason to pay market value for a guy who can't go on the market. I agree they should give him so fiscal security, but holding out for Hester money won't help anyone.

Grant doesn't seem to be looking to break the bank. A starting tailback capable of putting up 1500 yards and 10+ TDs in a season (which Grant seems able to do based on half a season of work) banks more coin than even Hester got. Grant certainly isn't going to get market value...we all know that.

A 1.75M bonus in today's NFL is an insult. It speaks poorly of Thompson IMO. Don't kid yourself...players around the league see this shit. Market value for Grant if he was an UFA? $20M bonus? Maybe more?

Actually his agent left out everything except the bonus. We don't actually know what he was offered. All we know is that a guy who played 8 NFL games and 2 playoff games (1 good with 2 fumbles, one bad) was offered a 1.75 million bonus....that is IT. For all we know his contract could get HUGE if he performs. If the agent wants this in the press, put the ENTIRE offer in the press.

[The Leaper]

Guaranteed money is what counts in the NFL...at least in terms of contract negotiation.

I understand Grant isn't going to get a huge bonus...but 20-25% of what he could expect on the open market is a reasonable place to start, don't you think?

Less than 10%? Insulting.

[Fritz]

What? He definitely lowballed Kampman. Kampman is extremely underpaid for what he does. Tauscher and Clifton are still paid pretty low.

Partial, stick to what you know. It's in the Romper Room. At the time Kampman signed, his contract was not a lowball offer. Kampman had come off a 6.5 sack season and got a very nice package. Many thought we overpaid for him. You don't resign a guy on the verge of FA without offering a fair deal.

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewto...&postorder=asc

Agreed. If Kampman - or any of the players - were so underpaid, why would they sign?

[bobblehead]

This is the best bump I could find about Grants agent running to the press. Unfortunately the link is no longer active, but rats reactions are still here.