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Realistically, right now the pressure is on both Ryan Grant and the Packers and deals frequently get done quickly once camp days start getting missed. It's not uncommon for draft picks to miss a day or two and then come to terms (Hawk missed the first day of his rookie camp due to not being under contract, and just so you don't think this is a TT-only thing, so did this year's #5 pick Glen Dorsey).
The Grant situation is essentially unprecedented in the history of the NFL, but the pressure is on both sides to get the deal in. A lot of what we're hearing from his agent have to be taken with a grain of salt since he's largely just jockeying for a better deal for his client (if he wasn't doing so, he'd be a bad agent.)</delurk>
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The agent sure came out strong
"I can't believe after 5 1/2 months, after the Packers said to us that this was a unique situation, that the Packers take care of their own, that we would get in a situation as unreasonable as this," Herman said. "I've never seen anything like that in my 24 years in the business."TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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You got that right. Grant was smart to skip this first go.Originally posted by BretskyI'll say this; a 1,5MIL bonus for a multi year deal is crap.
But TT will make sure this deal gets done; he's going to equip his boy with every offensive weapon possible to give him a chance for success after he ditches Favre off to another teamC.H.U.D.
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Originally posted by cpk1994Good god, you are pathetic.Originally posted by PartialIt's pretty gosh darn similiar. The reason the team moved on is they installed the whole offense supposedly and couldn't go back now. The team has shown confidence in BJack, and now they expect him to come in and take a backseat to the veteran who hasn't worked out all offseason?Originally posted by BallHawkThe situation is oddly parallel in your mind. This is like how in the mind of Mark Kurlansky every major event in world history was caused by salt.Originally posted by PartialDude, its a joke. Chill out. But, funny, how the situations oddly parallel one another and the young, up and comer is being allowed back as the starter.
It's not really that similar.
GAB. They're practically identical short of Grant not bad mouthing his boss. But, it could get to that point shortly.
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cpk = same story, different threadBaah
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I agree that he was right not to take the offer. I just wish his agent knew better than to complain about each step of the bargaining process to the media. From past experience, that's the best way to get Thompson to NOT give you what you want.
Herman's a douche.
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I have to admit, the 24 years in the business quip made me chuckle.Originally posted by BretskyThe agent sure came out strong
"I can't believe after 5 1/2 months, after the Packers said to us that this was a unique situation, that the Packers take care of their own, that we would get in a situation as unreasonable as this," Herman said. "I've never seen anything like that in my 24 years in the business.""I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Okay, so before I post this, I definitely know what replies are about to come.
"LoLz maibee I kan talk 2 Farve on fasebuhk!1!11"
But, I did what Chevelle did and added Shaun Bodiford as a friend. I looked through his photo album and stuff, and it's all legit. Sure, you can easily underestimate Facebook, but when there's pictures of you doing it up in college, hanging with family, out on dates, etc...
He was on Facebook chat, so I talked to him...
Dan
hey man
i just wanna say im a big fan of yours
Shaun
thanks.. but i dont play for the pack anymore.
Dan
so i heard
keep your head up man
you know you have talent
we know you have talent
green bay's cold anyways haha
Shaun
thank you. yeah green bay hasnt been to good to me..
Dan
id assume not
im a huge pack fan and shit
but man shits goin down the drain right now
i hear we're lowballing ryan grant and shit
Shaun
nah it will be great this yr. yeah they feel they can go without him and play wit brandon jackson..
a rod lost so mmcuh weight.
Dan
thats sweet
whats the locker room like?
like are they towards favre or rodgers?
Shaun
they really dont care.
Dan
what about you?
Shaun
i went to junior college wit a rod. his a great friend o fmine..
Again, I know the replies I'm going to get, but for those who actually have a Facebook account and can relate to know that this is valid. I just thought it was interesting what he said about the Pack thinking they can go with Jackson.
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Maybe Facebook can be semi-reputable, but I can't say I believe what a #6 WR says. Nothing against him, but he has no idea what's going on upstairs. Not even guys like DD and Greg have a 100% clear idea of what's going on."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Solid.Originally posted by BallHawkDuring that Seattle game, after the two fumbles, all the guys were coming up to him and giving him support. If the guy was a right dick and a bad teammate, I don't think you would of seen so much of a support group.
I've watched interviews with Grant, read pieces about him, he's as good as they come. He wants to be in camp. Partial, don't mistake what Grant's agent says for who Ryan Grant is. All of these guys are pawns and will follow whatever their agent says, in most cases.
This situation will play out and Ryan will sign a deal with the Pack. Following that, Ryan will help the Pack win games. It's that simple. Nothing in this situation has downgraded my opinion of Grant at all. This is just the NFL being the NFL.
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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Ha i just added him too, but i cant belive they think they can go on without Grant...Originally posted by DannoMac21Okay, so before I post this, I definitely know what replies are about to come.
"LoLz maibee I kan talk 2 Favre on fasebuhk!1!11"
But, I did what Chevelle did and added Shaun Bodiford as a friend. I looked through his photo album and stuff, and it's all legit. Sure, you can easily underestimate Facebook, but when there's pictures of you doing it up in college, hanging with family, out on dates, etc...
He was on Facebook chat, so I talked to him...
Dan
hey man
i just wanna say im a big fan of yours
Shaun
thanks.. but i dont play for the pack anymore.
Dan
so i heard
keep your head up man
you know you have talent
we know you have talent
green bay's cold anyways haha
Shaun
thank you. yeah green bay hasnt been to good to me..
Dan
id assume not
im a huge pack fan and shit
but man shits goin down the drain right now
i hear we're lowballing ryan grant and shit
Shaun
nah it will be great this yr. yeah they feel they can go without him and play wit brandon jackson..
a rod lost so mmcuh weight.
Dan
thats sweet
whats the locker room like?
like are they towards favre or rodgers?
Shaun
they really dont care.
Dan
what about you?
Shaun
i went to junior college wit a rod. his a great friend o fmine..
Again, I know the replies I'm going to get, but for those who actually have a Facebook account and can relate to know that this is valid. I just thought it was interesting what he said about the Pack thinking they can go with Jackson.
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Should you have posted that private? one to one conversation?Originally posted by DannoMac21Okay, so before I post this, I definitely know what replies are about to come.
"LoLz maibee I kan talk 2 Favre on fasebuhk!1!11"
But, I did what Chevelle did and added Shaun Bodiford as a friend. I looked through his photo album and stuff, and it's all legit. Sure, you can easily underestimate Facebook, but when there's pictures of you doing it up in college, hanging with family, out on dates, etc...
He was on Facebook chat, so I talked to him...
Dan
hey man
i just wanna say im a big fan of yours
Shaun
thanks.. but i dont play for the pack anymore.
Dan
so i heard
keep your head up man
you know you have talent
we know you have talent
green bay's cold anyways haha
Shaun
thank you. yeah green bay hasnt been to good to me..
Dan
id assume not
im a huge pack fan and shit
but man shits goin down the drain right now
i hear we're lowballing ryan grant and shit
Shaun
nah it will be great this yr. yeah they feel they can go without him and play wit brandon jackson..
a rod lost so mmcuh weight.
Dan
thats sweet
whats the locker room like?
like are they towards favre or rodgers?
Shaun
they really dont care.
Dan
what about you?
Shaun
i went to junior college wit a rod. his a great friend o fmine..
Again, I know the replies I'm going to get, but for those who actually have a Facebook account and can relate to know that this is valid. I just thought it was interesting what he said about the Pack thinking they can go with Jackson.
Just a thought ..maybe heads up for you DannoMac21. Not to summon debate.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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Well, to be honest I'm not sure a situation like Ryan Grant's has ever occurred in the 88 years that the NFL has existed. So that he hasn't seen anything like this in 24 years should be no surprise.Originally posted by BretskyThe agent sure came out strong
"I can't believe after 5 1/2 months, after the Packers said to us that this was a unique situation, that the Packers take care of their own, that we would get in a situation as unreasonable as this," Herman said. "I've never seen anything like that in my 24 years in the business."</delurk>
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Talking to him a little more...
Dan
so do you know where youre going next?
Shaun
nope. i have to rehab my back so i can get back soon..
11:49pmDan
damn
well good luck with that man
Shaun
thanks. hopefully in 3 yrs i could be a primer wr. we still be chatiting online.
Dan
you leavin back any big friends on the team?
other than rodgers obv
Shaun
atari bigby... will blackmon... c. wood. james jones
them are the guys i talk to on the phone off season... atari bigby gonna be my best man..
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