You would think Favre earned the right to "waffle"

[MOBB DEEP]

Eveyone is saying trust the Packers.

But who are the Packers. This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guyus know what in the hell they are doing.

But we are not to trust a worker who is saying he is getting screwed over by new management.

New guys want out with the old and in with the new.


And yes Strahan is a de, but Favre would have had all training camp to get caught up.

I seriously don't think he missed much during the offseason.
Guy played 16 games last year with the same players yet offseason work is more important than that.
Quit listening to the propaganda that is spilling out from both sides.

Favre earned the right to come back in my mind.

For some reason some kid who has never started all of a sudden means more to the pack than Favre. That is the biggest joke I have seen in sports

DITO!!!!

[The Shadow]

Eveyone is saying trust the Packers.

But who are the Packers. This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guyus know what in the hell they are doing.

DITO!!!!

Ummmm.... 13-3?
Youngest team in the NFL?
Executive of the Year?
Healthy salary cap?

[MOBB DEEP]

im probably the most level headed and polite poster on any forum ever and i have to say that TT is an arrogant knob; wreckn brett's comebak bid (bret favres come along for a franchise once in a lifetime!!!)

#4 might not be bigger than nfl but he's bigger that tt....in fact, this will be TT's claim to "fame" and in ten years he will be an afterthought. PLAYERS make the game not dime-a-dozen GM's (not sayn he's the worse GM but he doesnt stand out historically)

ok, im done venting; not like what i say will sway the powers that be anyway

would love to see #4 flinging ball to 80 and 85 (visions of the broncs OT game warms my heart, not arod sliding in the dallas game)

It sure would be nice if Brett would stop talking to the press slinging mud though, dont you think? Maybe he could just man up, shut up and show up?

I TOTALLY AGREE my man

[MOBB DEEP]

Eveyone is saying trust the Packers.

But who are the Packers. This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guyus know what in the hell they are doing.

DITO!!!!

Ummmm.... 13-3?
Youngest team in the NFL?
Executive of the Year?
Healthy salary cap?

we will never know (not even the shadow) if the pack would have been as successful with arod. i thnk aaron's gonna be fine but not on #4's level EVER and certainly not this seson (4,000 yards good, best qb n nfc good? NOT!!)

[dissident94]

We will see what record we have this year. This will bee TT and McCarthys make or break year

BUt think about this. Since 1992 Packers have 15 winning years. Before that time we had like 3-4 in 25 years.

The only thing that was the same during that time was Favre and Harlan

Different coaches, players, GMs.

Thats how important Farve was.

He made the whole team better.

The talent on this team may not be as good as one may think

[Iron Mike]

im probably the most level headed and polite poster on any forum ever.

Heck, no. That'd be upnorthfan from the old JSO.

[GrnBay007]

Eveyone is saying trust the Packers.

But who are the Packers. This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guyus know what in the hell they are doing.

DITO!!!!

Ummmm.... 13-3?
Youngest team in the NFL?
Executive of the Year?
Healthy salary cap?

dissident was talking track record. TT hasn't been around long enough to call it a track record.....nor has ARod (2 1/2 quarters...woohoo). Favre has a winning track record though. You know, the one that's not allowed at Lambeau.

[GrnBay007]

im probably the most level headed and polite poster on any forum ever and i have to say that TT is an arrogant knob; wreckn brett's comebak bid (bret favres come along for a franchise once in a lifetime!!!)

#4 might not be bigger than nfl but he's bigger that tt....in fact, this will be TT's claim to "fame" and in ten years he will be an afterthought. PLAYERS make the game not dime-a-dozen GM's (not sayn he's the worse GM but he doesnt stand out historically)

ok, im done venting; not like what i say will sway the powers that be anyway

would love to see #4 flinging ball to 80 and 85 (visions of the broncs OT game warms my heart, not arod sliding in the dallas game)

Good to see you here MOBB

[SkinBasket]

Is MOBB the black guy?

[Bretsky]

im probably the most level headed and polite poster on any forum ever and i have to say that TT is an arrogant knob; wreckn brett's comebak bid (bret favres come along for a franchise once in a lifetime!!!)

#4 might not be bigger than nfl but he's bigger that tt....in fact, this will be TT's claim to "fame" and in ten years he will be an afterthought. PLAYERS make the game not dime-a-dozen GM's (not sayn he's the worse GM but he doesnt stand out historically)

ok, im done venting; not like what i say will sway the powers that be anyway

would love to see #4 flinging ball to 80 and 85 (visions of the broncs OT game warms my heart, not arod sliding in the dallas game)

Good to see you here MOBB

Yes, MOBB, welcome back

Hey, I thought I was the most level headed and polite poster here


Cheers,
B

[FavreChild]

No, B. See, MOBB is actually respectful of the female posters.

[Iron Mike]

But who are the Packers? This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guys know what in the hell they are doing?

OK, let's compare:

The Wolf/Holmgren/Harlan years

--1992 9-7 season. No playoffs.
--1993 9-7 season. Second round playoff exit.
--1994 9-7 season. Second round playoff exit.
--1995 11-5 season. Loss in the NFC Championship round.
--1996 13-3 season. Super Bowl champs.

The Thompson/McCarthy/Harlan-Murphy years

--2006 8-8 season. No playoffs.
--2007 13-3 season. Loss in the NFC Championship round.

I'd say the current teams compares favorably to the Holmgren era team.

[Bretsky]

No, B. See, MOBB is actually respectful of the female posters.

Ah, FC, that's because he doesn't know ya well enough
J/K

[Bretsky]

But who are the Packers? This is a different management than it was a few years ago.

New GM
New Coach
New President

What track record do we have that these guys know what in the hell they are doing?

OK, let's compare:

The Wolf/Holmgren/Harlan years

--1992 9-7 season. No playoffs.
--1993 9-7 season. Second round playoff exit.
--1994 9-7 season. Second round playoff exit.
--1995 11-5 season. Loss in the NFC Championship round.
--1996 13-3 season. Super Bowl champs.

The Thompson/McCarthy/Harlan-Murphy years

--2006 8-8 season. No playoffs.
--2007 13-3 season. Loss in the NFC Championship round.

I'd say the current teams compares favorably to the Holmgren era team.

Is there a reason you skipped TT's year 1 ? I think I want to see a couple more years but I agree they have a good start

[Iron Mike]

Is there a reason you skipped TT's year 1 ? I think I want to see a couple more years but I agree they have a good start

Y'know, I kinda wanted to go with the Thompson/McCarthy package rather than the Thompson(cleaning up the Sherman fiasco)/Sherman fiasco.

Can I get a mulligan on 2005?