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[boiga]

I agree - I think the best thing that could happen is for Favre to hold a press conference tomorrow and say the following:
1) I asked for reinstatement.
2) I apologize to the NFL, my team - the Green Bay Packers - and the fans for the way this situation has been handled.
3) I understand that because I retired, the Packers moved on and made Rogers the starter.
4) I will accept the assignment as the number 2 QB - since it was I who retired.
5) However, I do this with the expectation that while Arod is the starter, if I outperform him in preseason, I will be the number 1 QB. If I cannot, I will be content with my back-up status.
6) I cannot take any questions since I need to get to camp to be with my teammates.

Then just let the cards fall where they are. If he can't beat out Arod - then he is number 2.

That would be nice, but he'd never do it. Brett, Bus and Deanna feel like the wronged party here, so no apologies will be forthcoming.

If he did what you suggest, Packer nation would welcome him back with open arms. But considering Favre's repeated requests to be released, Brett would prefer starting for anyone over being a backup for the Packers.

He doesn't want to be Packer so much that he would risk riding the pine.

[Bretsky]

If he is serious about playing he should get his ass to camp and quit screwing around. He isn't wanted, that's obvious. Show up and compete because I'm starting to think a trade is unlikely. Release is likely out of the question.

EXACTLY

Get your ass to camp and beat out Rodgers

TT doesn't want you and he'll drop the asking price if you get in camp

To be fair to Brett, I thought they said being his backup wasn't an option?

They've implied so many messages I'm having a hard time keeping up.

MM said he could find a role for him on the team if he came in; but then reiterated that AROD was his starting QB. That is the one clear thing.

IMO by coming to camp, it becomes a circus, and TT will wrap us a trade fast
Right now, TT could be asking for too much; but that won't keep up if Favre gets to Green Bay IMO

[Chevelle2]

I agree - I think the best thing that could happen is for Favre to hold a press conference tomorrow and say the following:
1) I asked for reinstatement.
2) I apologize to the NFL, my team - the Green Bay Packers - and the fans for the way this situation has been handled.
3) I understand that because I retired, the Packers moved on and made Rogers the starter.
4) I will accept the assignment as the number 2 QB - since it was I who retired.
5) However, I do this with the expectation that while Arod is the starter, if I outperform him in preseason, I will be the number 1 QB. If I cannot, I will be content with my back-up status.
6) I cannot take any questions since I need to get to camp to be with my teammates.

Then just let the cards fall where they are. If he can't beat out Arod - then he is number 2.

People will fall in love with him all over again. Balls in TTs court if he does this.

[GrnBay007]

GrnBay007
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:
I don't think either of them have the upper hand. They are both in a shitty spot.

TT will not pay Favre 12 mil to back up Rodgers.
TT would not pay Favre 1 mil or 1 dollar to back up Rodgers.....he simply does not want him around anymore to mess with his "plan".

If TT is so confident in Rodgers then release Favre and let this whole thing go...let Favre play!! And if that means with the Vikings so be it.

come on that is just plain retarded.

Why? He's confident Rodgers is "the guy".

See what happens.

He's the "ultimate draft man" ...prove it.

[boiga]

Bretsky, you're assuming that Favre would accept the trade, though.

He doesn't like the Jets or Bucs, although apparently could be convinced after a talk with their Head Coaches.

If he decides neither of those teams are what he wants, there's no one else willing to pay for him, so no other trades would really be possible.

[Joemailman]

If he is serious about playing he should get his ass to camp and quit screwing around. He isn't wanted, that's obvious. Show up and compete because I'm starting to think a trade is unlikely. Release is likely out of the question.

EXACTLY

Get your ass to camp and beat out Rodgers

TT doesn't want you and he'll drop the asking price if you get in camp

To be fair to Brett, I thought they said being his backup wasn't an option?

From MM's PC today:

(Now that camp has started, do you still have a role in the resolution of this whole situation?) Yeah, I would definitely say I'm still involved. Conversations between Ted Thompson and I happen throughout the day, so I would say I'm definitely involved.

(Would he be doing this team a disservice by showing up at camp and creating a distraction?) I don't view it that way. It's an option. Once again, this is a very unusual situation that we're in. It really falls under the terms of a business decision. Those are one of his options. We have a very strong locker room. I have great confidence in our players. If you look at the makeup of our locker room, 25 percent, 21 players, have never even met Brett Favre. There are a lot of things that we talked about, I wouldn't say a lot of things. We talked about it as a team yesterday. I don't foresee Brett Favre coming in here as a problem. Brett Favre is a big part of the Green Bay Packers history, and he may be a part of the future as we move forward, and that's an option that he has if he reinstates.

[dabootski]

GrnBay007
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:
I don't think either of them have the upper hand. They are both in a shitty spot.

TT will not pay Favre 12 mil to back up Rodgers.
TT would not pay Favre 1 mil or 1 dollar to back up Rodgers.....he simply does not want him around anymore to mess with his "plan".

If TT is so confident in Rodgers then release Favre and let this whole thing go...let Favre play!! And if that means with the Vikings so be it.

come on that is just plain retarded.

Why? He's confident Rodgers is "the guy".

See what happens.

He's the "ultimate draft man" ...prove it.

regardless of how confident TT is in rodgers, that is just plain bad strategy. even if we 100% absolutely KNEW rodgers was better than favre, it would still be a shitty move strategically.

[GrnBay007]

regardless of how confident TT is in rodgers, that is just plain bad strategy. even if we 100% absolutely KNEW rodgers was better than favre, it would still be a shitty move strategically.

I would think it's also bad strategy NOT to allow a QB competition in order to put the best QB on the field for the 2008 season. I guess that sounds "retarded" too.

[boiga]

Quarterback competitions don't really work though. All they do is engender bad feelings. Think Leinart/ Warner last year, or what the Bears put themselves through.

Here's a recent SI article on why QB competitions are a farce: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ons/index.html

Edit: QB competitions merely mean that if one guy loses the job, the other will get it. The rest is grandstanding.

[dabootski]

regardless of how confident TT is in rodgers, that is just plain bad strategy. even if we 100% absolutely KNEW rodgers was better than favre, it would still be a shitty move strategically.

I would think it's also bad strategy NOT to allow a QB competition in order to put the best QB on the field for the 2008 season. I guess that sounds "retarded" too.

i'm not opposed to the QB competition although i don't think it will happen. please don't assume i'm a blind follower of TT. just pointing out the fact that releasing favre to go wherever (vikings) would just be a ridiculous move strategically.

[bobblehead]

GrnBay007
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:
I don't think either of them have the upper hand. They are both in a shitty spot.

TT will not pay Favre 12 mil to back up Rodgers.
TT would not pay Favre 1 mil or 1 dollar to back up Rodgers.....he simply does not want him around anymore to mess with his "plan".

If TT is so confident in Rodgers then release Favre and let this whole thing go...let Favre play!! And if that means with the Vikings so be it.

come on that is just plain retarded.

No its not, and if DD and kampman ask to be released to join minnesota we should man up and let them too.

[GrnBay007]

Quarterback competitions don't really work though. All they do is engender bad feelings. Think Leinart/ Warner last year, or what the Bears put themselves through.

That made me smile.......what a completely different spot the Packers would be in compared to the Bears.

Packers - which good QB do we play

Bears - which, umm, you know the guy that throws the ball, do we play

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would think it's also bad strategy NOT to allow a QB competition in order to put the best QB on the field for the 2008 season. I guess that sounds "retarded" too.

The problem is that Favre fans think a "competition" means that Favre is the starter.
What would be your reaction if Rodgers won the competition, particularly if there was some good evidence that Favre outplayed him?

[bobblehead]

I agree - I think the best thing that could happen is for Favre to hold a press conference tomorrow and say the following:
1) I asked for reinstatement.
2) I apologize to the NFL, my team - the Green Bay Packers - and the fans for the way this situation has been handled.
3) I understand that because I retired, the Packers moved on and made Rogers the starter.
4) I will accept the assignment as the number 2 QB - since it was I who retired.
5) However, I do this with the expectation that while Arod is the starter, if I outperform him in preseason, I will be the number 1 QB. If I cannot, I will be content with my back-up status.
6) I cannot take any questions since I need to get to camp to be with my teammates.

Then just let the cards fall where they are. If he can't beat out Arod - then he is number 2.

People will fall in love with him all over again. Balls in TTs court if he does this.

and when MM declares rodgers the winner because he isn't prone to nearly as many interceptions and fumbles....what then? All of you will be screaming that it was never a fair competition, all QB's throw picks inside their own 10 right between uhrlachers numbers in tight games, MM just hates favre.

Anyway all this is silly, who are the idiots saying favre isn't allowed at camp? He is retired.....if he files his stinkin papers he can come to camp...WE CAN'T STOP HIM!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

and when MM declares rodgers the winner because he isn't prone to nearly as many interceptions and fumbles....what then?

well stated, this is what I was thinking. There are a LOT of factors in naming the starting QB. And the coaches have the right to make that subjective decision.