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[boiga]

The thing is, Rodgers never out-performed Favre in order to take it from him. It's probably the only thing that is bothering TT's conscious, if he has one.

I don't think that comes into play much, really. The coaches believe that they can be setup for the next 5 years with Rodgers. The same can not be said of Favre.

Even if Favre plays better right this instance, would you rather wait for him to decline into obsolescence before getting his backup ready? The coaches determined Favre's backup was ready over the summer and now don't have any reason to invest in Favre's decline when they already have a guy who can play (we all hope.)

[dabootski]

No its not, and if DD and kampman ask to be released to join minnesota we should man up and let them too.

you really think making personnel decisions in the nfl should have anything to do with "man-ing up"??? i think its hypocritical to say that TT should "man up" by letting favre go wherever he wants (minnesota) and also say they should put the best person on the field regardless of the situation. to me that is inconsistent logic.

not that i'm opposed to the "put the best guy on the field" argument (i would love for #4 to be our starter this year) but what is the difference between putting the best guy on the field and not letting the best guy on the field go play for the enemy? its a cut-throat business man. dont hand your weapons to the bad guy. simple as that.

I'm pretty sure he was being facetious.

haha! yeah i think you are right. too quick to the goddamn keyboard...

damn you brett favre for making me feel these crazy emotions!!!

[GrnBay007]

The thing is, Rodgers never out-performed Favre in order to take it from him. It's probably the only thing that is bothering TT's conscious, if he has one.

I don't think that comes into play much, really. The coaches believe that they can be setup for the next 5 years with Rodgers. The same can not be said of Favre.

Even if Favre plays better right this instance, would you rather wait for him to decline into obsolescence before getting his backup ready? The coaches determined Favre's backup was ready over the summer and now don't have any reason to invest in Favre's decline when they already have a guy who can play (we all hope.)

LOL that's silly. The NFL is all about winning now. Nobody knows if Rodgers will ever be ready in that respect.

Anyway, it's been fun. Night Favre-haters.

[The Shadow]

He had that beaten Y.A. Tittle look from the 63 Giants championship loss.

I was thinking of Horatio Hornblower in the 1947 Championship game, Horatio looked like he was at his own funeral. A sad, cold day, I'll never forget it.

Sidd Finch, in that frigid 23' title game at the Guano Grounds, was also a beaten man, even as he ran out onto the field.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sidd Finch, in that frigid 23' title game at the Guano Grounds, was also a beaten man, even as he ran out onto the field.

a little before my time. my parents wouldn't let me attend ball games then, too much bootleg liquor in the stands.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sidd Finch could also hurl a baseball at 110 MPH. Dude had an arm.

[The Shadow]

Sidd Finch, in that frigid 23' title game at the Guano Grounds, was also a beaten man, even as he ran out onto the field.

a little before my time. my parents wouldn't let me attend ball games then, too much bootleg liquor in the stands.

I was selling it from within the voluminous folds of my raccoon coat.

[Chevelle2]

If he is serious about playing he should get his ass to camp and quit screwing around. He isn't wanted, that's obvious. Show up and compete because I'm starting to think a trade is unlikely. Release is likely out of the question.

EXACTLY

Get your ass to camp and beat out Rodgers

TT doesn't want you and he'll drop the asking price if you get in camp

To be fair to Brett, I thought they said being his backup wasn't an option?

From MM's PC today:

(Now that camp has started, do you still have a role in the resolution of this whole situation?) Yeah, I would definitely say I'm still involved. Conversations between Ted Thompson and I happen throughout the day, so I would say I'm definitely involved.

(Would he be doing this team a disservice by showing up at camp and creating a distraction?) I don't view it that way. It's an option. Once again, this is a very unusual situation that we're in. It really falls under the terms of a business decision. Those are one of his options. We have a very strong locker room. I have great confidence in our players. If you look at the makeup of our locker room, 25 percent, 21 players, have never even met Brett Favre. There are a lot of things that we talked about, I wouldn't say a lot of things. We talked about it as a team yesterday. I don't foresee Brett Favre coming in here as a problem. Brett Favre is a big part of the Green Bay Packers history, and he may be a part of the future as we move forward, and that's an option that he has if he reinstates.

OK because on ESPN ticker, they said Favre can't come to TC, which is also what my friend told me.....is that true? What are peoples thoughts on this (Im in an argument with my friend and she said its not fair that they arent letting him into camp, and I need a rebuttle)

[Rastak]

Sidd Finch could also hurl a baseball at 110 MPH. Dude had an arm.

I remember him!

[boiga]

Favre is fully allowed to come into camp, it's just that unless he confirms to everyone that the wants to stay with the Packers, he won't be particularly welcome there.

Take this from M3's perspective, a guy walks into your practice field who likely will only be there until a trade can be arranged. Do you take away reps from the QB's that will still be here a month from now? Do you get him up to speed on your revamped offensive game plan, knowing he'll be telling it all to your rival's defensive coordinator?

Favre might come in, but unless he gives up on trades/releases, I can't imagine McCarthy trying to get him involved.

[mmmdk]

Right on! You can't have a guy that knows the playbook come into camp; get all the new dinks and dunks only to split via trade or the near unthinkable release. Should never happen.

Now if only Favre could be our LS then...

[Fritz]

Sidd Finch could also hurl a baseball at 110 MPH. Dude had an arm.

I remember him!

When Jim Thorpe slammed into him and Sid's right shouldere was hanging by a single tendon from its socket, the coaches could see in Sid's eyes that he'd lost the will to compete.

[texaspackerbacker]

Re: Options

In trying to figure out whether Favre or Thompson have the upper hand in this affair, I think it comes down to one unanswered question: Is Ted Thompson willing to pay Favre 12 million to backup Aaron Rodgers rather than release him? If he is, then he has the upper hand since if Favre wants to be a starter he would then have to agree to give up his desire to sign with Minnesota, and agree to a trade. If Thompson is not willing to do that, than Favre has the upper hand. He can simply wait until the end of training camp and Thompson would have to release him.

Most would assume that Favre would agree to a trade rather than be a backup in Green Bay. But is that certain? What is more important to Favre? A starting job, or a shot at a another Super Bowl ring? If he wants to start, clearly he would prefer a trade. However, if he wants a ring, he could decide that his best chance for that is in Green Bay.

Excellent analysis, Joe--pretty much what I've been saying all along.