Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

[bobblehead]

If he talked to the jets, said "I'm excited to get you your camp and play" the deal would be done yesterday, he hasn't, it isn't, now he is coming to camp. HE ONLY WANTS HIS RELEASE.

yes, and he's not going to get that release.

and till he understands this, the drama will continue. This may not get resolved for several weeks.

I think he gets released before we have to pay him.

[Bretsky]

I really don't have a problem with Brett looking out for Brett first... cuz isn't that what the team is doing? or so TT says?

The team is putting itself above an individual, that's what teams are supposed to do. The player is putting himself above his team, that's not what players are supposed to do.

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

[bobblehead]

I really don't have a problem with Brett looking out for Brett first... cuz isn't that what the team is doing? or so TT says?

The team is putting itself above an individual, that's what teams are supposed to do. The player is putting himself above his team, that's not what players are supposed to do.

He is under contract, therefore by putting himself first in this manner he is no better then JWalk, or TO or anyone who doesn't want to honor his contract. when he retired he forced the team to move on, anything he does other than return to the team under their terms is selfish in the manner of a chad johnson. If he were a FA I would have no problem with him putting himself completely first in every way...he isn't so he is being an ass.

[Pacopete4]

I really don't have a problem with Brett looking out for Brett first... cuz isn't that what the team is doing? or so TT says?

The team is putting itself above an individual, that's what teams are supposed to do. The player is putting himself above his team, that's not what players are supposed to do.

He is under contract, therefore by putting himself first in this manner he is no better then JWalk, or TO or anyone who doesn't want to honor his contract. when he retired he forced the team to move on, anything he does other than return to the team under their terms is selfish in the manner of a chad johnson. If he were a FA I would have no problem with him putting himself completely first in every way...he isn't so he is being an ass.

Bobble... it is different because he is being told not to come to his team, the team that he is contracted by... thats why he is looking out for himself...

[Lurker64]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

At the same time, Favre has made no secret that he wants no part of the Packers and thus I, as a fan of the Green Bay Packers, have no particular reason to hold any affection towards him nor do the Green Bay Packers have any good reason to welcome him back.

[packers11]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

At the same time, Favre has made no secret that he wants no part of the Packers and thus I, as a fan of the Green Bay Packers, have no particular reason to hold any affection towards him nor do the Green Bay Packers have any good reason to welcome him back.

"give me my helmet or give me my release"

HE WANTS TO PLAY IN GB OR with the vikings. It pretty much sums it up...

GB wants him to play anywhere but GB and MN...

This is were the problem is...

[Pacopete4]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

At the same time, Favre has made no secret that he wants no part of the Packers and thus I, as a fan of the Green Bay Packers, have no particular reason to hold any affection towards him nor do the Green Bay Packers have any good reason to welcome him back.

THEN LET HIM GO!... haha, if we dont want him, than get rid of him.. why can the Packers be selfish and hold out for their best offer, but Favre cant?... makes no sense

[Pacopete4]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

At the same time, Favre has made no secret that he wants no part of the Packers and thus I, as a fan of the Green Bay Packers, have no particular reason to hold any affection towards him nor do the Green Bay Packers have any good reason to welcome him back.

"give me my helmet or give me my release"

HE WANTS TO PLAY IN GB OR with the vikings. It pretty much sums it up...

GB wants him to play anywhere but GB and MN...

This is were the problem is...

If its down to GB or MN.... boy TT better pick GB cuz he will haunt us for a long time coming

[texaspackerbacker]

Dear Mark Murphy,

I have little to no trust in you, who I hardly know, or the guys that you say are so diligently trying to move me.

I am coming to camp and I know it's going to be uncomfortable, but it's the only way I know if that will put a rush on your desire...if that is what you care to call it...to move me.

I've given you a few days and for every day you sit on your ass and don't make something happen, my ability to play is lessened.

So tell the Turtle to get something down or give me a release.

Thanks for coming, don't let the door hit you in the ass, and I'll see you tomorrow in Green Bay.

Dear Brett Favre;

I don't give a rats ass if you trust me or not. We own you until we say we don't. That's a fact.

If you had half a brain in your head you would know deals like this can't be made in a couple days. They take time, yours will too.

How's you penmanship? When you get to GB you will be holding a clipboard and taking notes, and playing about as much as you did in Atlanta.

We can take the heat and weather the storm. Come if you must, but it will not change anything. We can't trade you until someone wants you, and right now no one does.

See you in Green Bay.

This is very similar to what I was gonna say--a sensible post in a sea of laughable ones. It's just weird how some of you people can get so panicky or how you can hang on every little detail of the mess that this story is.

I would treat Brett with a little more tact than Patler's letter, though, because I honestly don't see him as having bad intentions or calling the Packers bluff, or whatever. I think the celebrated attitude of an 8 year old kid that manifested itself in enthusiasm when he was playing is now manifesting itself in naivete.

Why can you people not just take Thompson at his word that there's no way he will release Favre? Why can't you people just take Favre at his word that he doesn't want to play for the AFC or Tampa or whatever? Why must you people read trouble into the scenario of Favre just thinking it over and saying OK to coming back as a backup? Why can't you people accept the word of Rodgers and a bunch of other players that there won't be anything but normalcy if Brett comes to camp? Why do some of you people fantasize some weird under-the-table deal ending up with something happening that is completely contrary to stated positions? And most of all, WHY do you people think you know more than Thompson, McCarthy, probably a solid majority of players, etc. who clearly believe the team is better off moving forward with Rodgers and ruling out Favre as a starter?

[GrnBay007]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

At the same time, Favre has made no secret that he wants no part of the Packers and thus I, as a fan of the Green Bay Packers, have no particular reason to hold any affection towards him nor do the Green Bay Packers have any good reason to welcome him back.

In one of the recent interview he said he wanted to play for the Packers only. Lord knows I could never fine it with 20 of them posted daily. I remember reading it.

[Partial]

That makes Mark Murphy a disrespectful dick. So many people are taking "respect" out of the equation. These people owe Brett their jobs. Especially TT. And he bit the hand that feeds.

I predict Brett torches the Pack if and when they meat. I also predict he gets a big hug from all the good players on the Packers, ya know, the vets who actually determine the outcome of games.

[Harlan Huckleby]

At this point it's hard to blame Favre because GB is clearly letting him know he's not part of the team; he should be looking out for himself IMO.

ya, very true.

but Favre was misguided to think he could win a PR war. He would have been much better off hammering out a compromise behind the scenes. Why go to war with people who can fuck you, and not in a happy way?

But that's easy to say from the outside, he was devestated by the rejection.

[BallHawk]

If its down to GB or MN.... boy TT better pick GB cuz he will haunt us for a long time coming

Honestly, how long could Brett "haunt" us for? 1 year, maybe 2? Whatever we do with Brett, it's not gonna hurt us in the long term.

[Pacopete4]

Harlan.. please explain how they can fuck him in any way?

[mraynrand]

The Favre Fans have a WILDLY exaggerated view of Favre's bargaining position. Its reason warped by emotion.

His ability to bargain rests on:
12 million dollars
Ability to become a 'cancer' in GB

That's it.