Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

[MOBB DEEP]

Dear Mark Murphy,

I have little to no trust in you, who I hardly know, or the guys that you say are so diligently trying to move me.

I am coming to camp and I know it's going to be uncomfortable, but it's the only way I know if that will put a rush on your desire...if that is what you care to call it...to move me.

I've given you a few days and for every day you sit on your ass and don't make something happen, my ability to play is lessened.

So tell the Turtle to get something down or give me a release.

Thanks for coming, don't let the door hit you in the ass, and I'll see you tomorrow in Green Bay.

Dear Brett Favre;

I don't give a rats ass if you trust me or not. We own you until we say we don't. That's a fact.

If you had half a brain in your head you would know deals like this can't be made in a couple days. They take time, yours will too.

How's you penmanship? When you get to GB you will be holding a clipboard and taking notes, and playing about as much as you did in Atlanta.

We can take the heat and weather the storm. Come if you must, but it will not change anything. We can't trade you until someone wants you, and right now no one does.

See you in Green Bay.

This is very similar to what I was gonna say--a sensible post in a sea of laughable ones. It's just weird how some of you people can get so panicky or how you can hang on every little detail of the mess that this story is.

I would treat Brett with a little more tact than Patler's letter, though, because I honestly don't see him as having bad intentions or calling the Packers bluff, or whatever. I think the celebrated attitude of an 8 year old kid that manifested itself in enthusiasm when he was playing is now manifesting itself in naivete.

Why can you people not just take Thompson at his word that there's no way he will release Favre? Why can't you people just take Favre at his word that he doesn't want to play for the AFC or Tampa or whatever? Why must you people read trouble into the scenario of Favre just thinking it over and saying OK to coming back as a backup? Why can't you people accept the word of Rodgers and a bunch of other players that there won't be anything but normalcy if Brett comes to camp? Why do some of you people fantasize some weird under-the-table deal ending up with something happening that is completely contrary to stated positions? And most of all, WHY do you people think you know more than Thompson, McCarthy, probably a solid majority of players, etc. who clearly believe the team is better off moving forward with Rodgers and ruling out Favre as a starter?

take heed; lord almighty himself has spoken to YOU people...haha

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think he gets released before we have to pay him.

I that case, Favre is playing it smart.

[boiga]

Harlan.. please explain how they can fuck him in any way?

They could trade him to Miami for a conditional 7th rounder that gets upped to two 1st round picks if he plays for any other team in the next year.

Let Parcells deal with the diva.

That would certainly be screwing him over, right?

[Pacopete4]

Harlan.. please explain how they can fuck him in any way?

They could trade him to Miami for a conditional 7th rounder that gets upped to two 1st round picks if he plays for any other team in the next year.

Let Parcells deal with the diva.

That would certainly be screwing him over, right?

Favre can veto any trade that he does not like.... next

[boiga]

Only by retiring... which is what we want, right? Once those papers are in, that is fully within the teams power.

[BallHawk]

That makes Mark Murphy a disrespectful dick. So many people are taking "respect" out of the equation. These people owe Brett their jobs. Especially TT. And he bit the hand that feeds.

I predict Brett torches the Pack if and when they meat. I also predict he gets a big hug from all the good players on the Packers, ya know, the vets who actually determine the outcome of games.

Actually, Ted owes his job to Harlan, not Brett. Harlan hired Ted and when he did that I'm sure he didn't expect Ted to ride the coattails of Favre for several years. Ted hasn't done that. Has the team been successful in part due to Favre? Absolutely. But, without Brett, it's more than likely Ted would still have a job.

And, if reports are true about Goodell advising Murphy to go down to MS, than this is no disrespect whatsover. It's about finding what's best for both parties involved.

[mraynrand]

but Favre was misguided to think he could win a PR war. He would have been much better off hammering out a compromise behind the scenes. Why go to war with people who can fuck you, and not in a happy way?

What if they weren't willing to give Favre what he wanted? Since they hold all the cards, what other choice does he have but to either play a really weak PR hand or become a cancer, which then would kill his PR ability (See Favre can only win a 'PR war' if people like him, which they stop doing once he wages an ugly PR war - which for the most part, has already happened). That leaves him with only the 12 million dollar angle, and becoming a cancer.

[GrnBay007]

I have a question for all of those that, in the last 90 days, decided to dislike Favre -

Lets just say the Packers decide to let Favre come back and compete for the starting QB position and he wins. After all the crappy things you've said about Favre, would you still come out and cheer him on?

Where I believe there is a difference is that those (and I will add, majority, not all) that are supporting Favre will still cheer for Rodgers when it comes down to it. I can't say that about all those spewing all the hatred toward Favre. Of those supporting Favre throughout this I really can't name anyone that has bashed Rodgers the way Favre has taken a beating. I just don't get it.

[Pacopete4]

thats not what I read....


he can refuse to report to anothe team which throws his rights back in our lap is what i've heard

[BallHawk]

Harlan.. please explain how they can fuck him in any way?

They could trade him to Miami for a conditional 7th rounder that gets upped to two 1st round picks if he plays for any other team in the next year.

Let Parcells deal with the diva.

That would certainly be screwing him over, right?

Favre can veto any trade that he does not like.... next

Favre cannot veto a trade. He doesn't have that power. He can choose not to show up to camp, but he can't shoot down a trade.

[digitaldean]

Answer these questions three and you know exactly what he'll do.

1) He wants to play for the Vikings - then he must report, become a cancer and force them to cut him
2) He wants to play for some other team - he doesn't have to report, but if he stays at home, the pressure is less on Thompson to make a deal. If he's in GB, he gets evaluated (don't know if this is better or worse, but makes a difference in Favre's favpr only if he's in great shape). Favre has to apporve a trade and has to pass a physical for the team he's traded to.
3) He wants to play for the Packers - doubtful, but he has to be in camp to do so

#1). Could happen, we just don't know on that.
#2) Agree with everything except that Favre has to approve a trade. He filed his reinstatement papers, he's back on the team and under the contract that applies for 2 more seasons of service. If he doesn't approve of the trade, tough crap, he can still be traded. (the other team does run the risk of him retiring again, but they'd retain his rights until he fulfills the 2 years of service).
#3). Stranger things have happened he could still be on the team for game 1, but I doubt it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harlan.. please explain how they can fuck him in any way?

Well, what they can do to fuck him is obvious. Trade him to Miami. Sit on his contract. Bury him in the depth chart.

At any job the boss has the upper hand.

FAvre has the ability to cause trouble, but also damage himself in the process.

[mraynrand]

I have a question for all of those that, in the last 90 days, decided to dislike Favre -

Lets just say the Packers decide to let Favre come back and compete for the starting QB position and he wins. After all the crappy things you've said about Favre, would you still come out and cheer him on?

Where I believe there is a difference is that those (and I will add, majority, not all) that are supporting Favre will still cheer for Rodgers when it comes down to it. I can't say that about all those spewing all the hatred toward Favre. Of those supporting Favre throughout this I really can't name anyone that has bashed Rodgers the way Favre has taken a beating. I just don't get it.

I'm annoyed by all the crap Favre has pulled, but I'd be totally behind him when he returns. I just don't think it's going to happen. You can't tear into your GM like Favre did. It's over. He won't play for GB.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lets just say the Packers decide to let Favre come back and compete for the starting QB position and he wins. After all the crappy things you've said about Favre, would you still come out and cheer him on?

Where I believe there is a difference is that those (and I will add, majority, not all) that are supporting Favre will still cheer for Rodgers when it comes down to it.

Well of course everyone will cheer for Rodgers.

It is only Favre who has (arguably) disgraced himself.

[digitaldean]

thats not what I read....


he can refuse to report to anothe team which throws his rights back in our lap is what i've heard

Once he gets traded, yes he can refuse to report. But then he can be disciplined (fined, etc.) by the other team that gets his rights. He has NO clause that gives him refusal rights for a trade.

Could he retire again if traded to a team he doesn't like, sure. But they hold his rights until the 2 remaining seasons of service are fulfilled.