Favre not reinstated today (Wed), BS reasoning by the NFL

[Patler]

No reinstatement today. How about this reasoning:

“The commissioner is taking no action today,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail. “He wants to give both the Packers and Brett an appropriate amount of time to make decisions, including decisions impacting the team's roster and salary cap. When Brett is reinstated by the commissioner, we will announce it.”

I bet the Packers are really agonizing over which of the 80 players to cut and how to work Favre under their $30 million in cap space!

[packers11]

It doesn't really matter. They have no practice on thursday. I expect him to be there by Friday to start the circus.

[mission]

Well I think there's an interesting (existing) dynamic at Quarterback ... they said they wanted three... how it will impact the roster and salary cap ...

12 million dollars impacts finances. just because there is a salary cap, doesnt mean they had planned on using all that money. the packers are a business like any business... there arent many that can drop 12 million unplanned and not have it affect something else in the organization whether its a detrimental impact or not.

even just explanation to shareholders etc...

this is kind of a non story patler (aside from the league cooperation) and im surprised you're using it to stir the pot a bit. not really like you diggin that deep.

[Rastak]

Re: Favre not reinstated today (Wed), BS reasoning by the NF

No reinstatement today. How about this reasoning:

“The commissioner is taking no action today,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail. “He wants to give both the Packers and Brett an appropriate amount of time to make decisions, including decisions impacting the team's roster and salary cap. When Brett is reinstated by the commissioner, we will announce it.”

I bet the Packers are really agonizing over which of the 80 players to cut and how to work Favre under their $30 million in cap space!

Yea, that sounded like a load of crap to me too. Work out what differences? The guy has a contract, Green Bay either enforces it or cuts him. If they want to renegotiate it, then do that after he reports.


edit: Or trade him of course, how does this delay help that?

[BallHawk]

Why drag it on even more? Unless the guys calling the shots know more than we know, I see this as counter-productive and a waste of time.

[Lurker64]

My guess is that Goodell sees the ridiculous circus and painful melodrama that will happen if Favre goes to camp as a black eye for the league and wants to avoid it. My guess is that he will be making phone calls for the rest of today and tonight to try to keep it from happening.

[cpk1994]

Why drag it on even more? Unless the guys calling the shots know more than we know, I see this as counter-productive and a waste of time.

Look, Goodell doesn't want a circus up in Packers training camp as much TT & M3 don't. Thats why they are doing what they are doing. TO sse if a resoluton can be found first.

On a side note, that Sunday deadline really sped things up didn't it Roger?

[Patler]

12 million dollars impacts finances. just because there is a salary cap, doesnt mean they had planned on using all that money. the packers are a business like any business... there arent many that can drop 12 million unplanned and not have it affect something else in the organization whether its a detrimental impact or not.

That's just it, Favre's return doesn't impact finances one bit until the final roster cutdown at the end of TC. Until then it is just a number in a column, the total of which can not exceed the salary cap. Not a dime of it will be spent until Favre makes their final roster. Until then, all players are paid a modest per diem, and it doesn't matter if it is Favre or the player he replaces. There is no impact until the first of the 17 weekly checks are mailed after the start of the season. So long as they get rid of him before then, it has no effect.

If the Packers were close to the salary cap on paper, they would have to make adjustments to get under it. As it is, they will have to make no adjustments at all when Favre is reinstated, because they have $30 million in space available.

[Patler]

Re: Favre not reinstated today (Wed), BS reasoning by the NF

Yea, that sounded like a load of crap to me too. Work out what differences? The guy has a contract, Green Bay either enforces it or cuts him. If they want to renegotiate it, then do that after he reports.

edit: Or trade him of course, how does this delay help that?

The only thing the delay might do is put things back into perspective a bit. Personally, I think Goodell butting his nose into it made it difficult for the Packers to deal with other teams, who felt the Packers were under pressure from the league for a quick resolution. They probably thought a good deal could be had. In reality, so long as they can put up with whatever media circus there is, the Packers have until the final roster cutdown to make a decision.

This was interesting to me, because Goodell had implied previously that Favre would be reinstated immediately.

[Lurker64]

Re: Favre not reinstated today (Wed), BS reasoning by the NF

This was interesting to me, because Goodell had implied previously that Favre would be reinstated immediately.

Did he say that before or after he talked to Thompson/Favre? Perhaps those conversations influenced Goodell more than the other two parties.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I hope the NFL fines the Packers everyday for this "holdout."

What is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

[Patler]

Re: Favre not reinstated today (Wed), BS reasoning by the NF

This was interesting to me, because Goodell had implied previously that Favre would be reinstated immediately.

Did he say that before or after he talked to Thompson/Favre? Perhaps those conversations influenced Goodell more than the other two parties.

I have absolutely no idea.

If anything, the Murphy/Goodell relationship might have caused him to change his stance a bit. Didn't Murphy work with Goodell on some advisory committees when Murphy was working for the NFLPA?

[Patler]

I hope the NFL fines the Packers everyday for this "holdout."

What is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

So far it is the NFL that is holding out!

[Lurker64]

I hope the NFL fines the Packers everyday for this "holdout."

What is good for the goose should be good for the gander.

Except, right now, the ball is in the NFL's court, not Brett Favre or the Packers. The Packers can't do anything until the NFL acts, and Favre can't do anything until the Packers act. If the NFL fines itself, that doesn't accomplish much.

[Sparkey]

12 million dollars impacts finances. just because there is a salary cap, doesnt mean they had planned on using all that money. the packers are a business like any business... there arent many that can drop 12 million unplanned and not have it affect something else in the organization whether its a detrimental impact or not.

That's just it, Favre's return doesn't impact finances one bit until the final roster cutdown at the end of TC. Until then it is just a number in a column, the total of which can not exceed the salary cap. Not a dime of it will be spent until Favre makes their final roster. Until then, all players are paid a modest per diem, and it doesn't matter if it is Favre or the player he replaces. There is no impact until the first of the 17 weekly checks are mailed after the start of the season. So long as they get rid of him before then, it has no effect.

If the Packers were close to the salary cap on paper, they would have to make adjustments to get under it. As it is, they will have to make no adjustments at all when Favre is reinstated, because they have $30 million in space available.

I wouldn't call 1,200 a week modest, but to an NFL salary I guess it is.