Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
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This is the the most significant question I've seen raised in over 400 pages of threads on the Favre subject.Originally posted by Harlan Hucklebywhy should the world revolve around accomodating Favre's wants?
Of course, Favre has earned a spot in Canton and in the cellar of the Lambeau Atrium. No question. No question he'll get those honours.
He also got paid handsomely for his 16 years as a Packer. Plus, if the 20 million offer is credible, that was to be paid over 10 years, most likely for representing the Packers.
Favre has gotten and will continue to receive his due. He is owed NOTHING by the Packers.
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i don't know whether to throw another dart or feign embarassment.Originally posted by GrnBay007and you sir, sound like an idiot for making a personal statement like that.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby[You sound like the little league mom of a very spoiled child.
I'm ashamed of myself, I really am.
Don't feel too bad, I called Bretsky a liar in another thread.
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Originally posted by Harlan Hucklebyi don't whether to throw another dart or feign embarassment.Originally posted by GrnBay007and you sir, sound like an idiot for making a personal statement like that.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby[You sound like the little league mom of a very spoiled child.
I'm ashamed of myself, I really am.
Don't feel too bad, I called Bretsky a liar in another thread.
I thought you just called my judgment incompetent as of late
Hey, at least I got to tell you to F off without using any bad language in the forum
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Originally posted by BretskyI thought you just called my judgment incompetent as of late
well, yes, that was my point. But some in there was the phrase "bald-faced lie", and I did regret putting it so harshly.
As to 007's bruised feelings: it has just been the same argument over and over again. I respect your loyalty and position. Sorry for treading on your feelings so harshly, I'm just a bit pissed off at the whole affair.
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And with that you have to agree it's been the same argument over and over again with the TT/management supporters.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyOriginally posted by BretskyI thought you just called my judgment incompetent as of late
well, yes, that was my point. But some in there was the phrase "bald-faced lie", and I did regret putting it so harshly.
As to 007's bruised feelings: it has just been the same argument over and over again. I respect your loyalty and position. Sorry for treading on your feelings so harshly, I'm just a bit pissed off at the whole affair.
Funny thing is, I've seen way more Favre supporters say both sides made major mistakes. The other side admits no fault in this mess. The truth is out there in limbo and we will never know all the details......ever!!
Maybe the loyalty slips in with those of us that played sports and can relate to the feeling. Maybe the people that take the side of management are more related to just that, management.
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Highlight for me again what mistakes have been made?Originally posted by GrnBay007I've seen way more Favre supporters say both sides made major mistakes. The other side admits no fault in this mess. The truth is out there in limbo and we will never know all the details......ever!!
Maybe the loyalty slips in with those of us that played sports and can relate to the feeling. Maybe the people that take the side of management are more related to just that, management.
The way I see it, Management has looked at this from Day I from a business perspective, excludng emotions and sentiments, which is exactly what they need to be doing.
The Favre camp has been emotional and sentimental beyond belief. It has used threats, rumor-mongering and leakage of private discussions to influence a decision.
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Like I've said a few times, none of us, nobody, will ever know the complete facts and truth in what mistakes have been made.....but I would bet my last dollar that both sides have made mistakes and have not been completely honest with the public.Originally posted by Tarlam!
Highlight for me again what mistakes have been made?
The way I see it, Management has looked at this from Day I from a business perspective, excludng emotions and sentiments, which is exactly what they need to be doing.
I hope in the end they are ok with their conscious....in the end, that's all that matters.
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A whitewash - everybody is wrong so nobody is wrong.Originally posted by GrnBay007Like I've said a few times, none of us, nobody, will ever know the complete facts and truth in what mistakes have been made.....but I would bet my last dollar that both sides have made mistakes and have not been completely honest with the public.
The Favre camp has not been shy about calling out the packers for their alleged crimes, we know EVERYTHING that has offended Favre.
There is not a balance here, Favre has been totally out of line.
Lord help me. You mean the Packers might consider feeling guilty for the terrible way they have treated Brett.Originally posted by GrnBay007I hope in the end they are ok with their conscious....in the end, that's all that matters.
Trouble is, they have acted very professionally, and they spent a lot of time and energy trying to accomodate Lord Favre's whims. You can't see it because you are blinded by your fanatical loyalty, but Favre has been a jerk.
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He thought he was above the team and Thompson by skipping the offseason work (which is something he's stated numerous times over a long period of time that he hates, and it's something McCarthy finds to be one of the most important things for his team) and thinking the Packers would welcome him back with open arms despite his waffling. His ego got in the way. Then, it got bruised. Now, he's bitter. Now, I'm bitter.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyTrouble is, they have acted very professionally, and they spent a lot of time and energy trying to accomodate Lord Favre's whims.
Work out a friggin' trade already. He doesn't owe the Packers anything, but the Packers don't own him anything. They got a Hall of Fame QB. He got huge money and adoration for many years. He's using the threat of retiring as a trump card to dictate where he'll go. Most players not named Favre wouldn't have the sympathy or the luxury to do that. Most players don't dictate completely where they go. The organization should make sure he doesn't go to a division rival. Any organization would try to make sure that doesn't happen."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersI now hope he's a complete failure wherever he goes. My ideal scenario was Packers vs. Ravens with Brett in the Super Bowl. Now, my ideal scenario is a repeat of 2005 (for him) with some other team.

i've been saying this for awhile now - under different terms, I would have cheered for brett (ie; he left after 2005 so that the packers could rebuild). the way this has handled makes me very bitter towards favreBusting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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He refuses to compete and feels he should just be given his job back.Originally posted by GrnBay007That's right. So let him come to camp, UNDER CONTRACT, and compete for his job back. What's so difficult in that? After all, Packer management would SURELY want to put the best QB on the field, RIGHT?Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
Because he is an NFL player under contract, not the goddamn pope.
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