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  • #91
    Originally posted by DonHutson
    This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

    This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

    Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
    That's my stance as well. By asking Favre not to show, they demonstrated weakness that the media is going to be hounding them for. They should have let Favre show up and make it McCarthy's decision to let Aaron be the starter. Any complaint from Favre would sound like whining at that point. M3 can handle the media pressure, so they should have just let it happen.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boiga
      Originally posted by DonHutson
      This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

      This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

      Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
      That's my stance as well. By asking Favre not to show, they demonstrated weakness that the media is going to be hounding them for. They should have let Favre show up and make it McCarthy's decision to let Aaron be the starter. Any complaint from Favre would sound like whining at that point. M3 can handle the media pressure, so they should have just let it happen.
      Those are really good thoughts.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by DonHutson
        Originally posted by Rastak
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        What I don't get is what would be the incentive for Minnesota giving up something in a trade. I don't believe Chilly and Bevell just talked about the weather when talking to Favre. If they know Favre would likely go there if he were released, why would they give up much? Especially, if Favre continues to play hardball and won't accept a trade to a team like Tampa Bay?

        I'm not 100% convinced they want him but the incentive would be to get him into camp now. I can't see a high pick either. A mid round pick to Green Bay to make it go away for them I would think. The longer it goes, the lower the pick I would think.
        This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

        This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

        Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
        Show me where they refuse to let Favreshow. Goodell is the one keeping Favre from showing by not acting on the reinstatement papers. THe PAckers have said time and time again that Favre is welcome.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by DonHutson
          This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

          This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

          Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
          Absolutely, a terrible mistake on GB's part. But not too late to correct.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Originally posted by DonHutson
            This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

            This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

            Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
            Absolutely, a terrible mistake on GB's part. But not too late to correct.
            Again, show me where the Packers have refused to let him show up. Favre didn't file his papers until now and now Goodell is sitting on them. He isn;t allowed into camp until Goodell does his job. So how can you say the Packers made a mistake since his current status doens't allow him in camp anyway?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              Originally posted by DonHutson
              This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

              This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

              Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
              Absolutely, a terrible mistake on GB's part. But not too late to correct.
              Again, show me where the Packers have refused to let him show up. Favre didn't file his papers until now and now Goodell is sitting on them. He isn;t allowed into camp until Goodell does his job. So how can you say the Packers made a mistake since his current status doens't allow him in camp anyway?
              Maybe its a matter of perception, which is driven by the media coverage. But it sure seems like the Packers are treating a return by Favre as the sky falling down.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                Originally posted by cpk1994
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                Originally posted by DonHutson
                This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.

                This would've lit a fire under Favre as well I believe. The longer he spent bouncing balls off the side of the Hutson center by himself, the more interested he would have been in trades.

                Being too pussyfooted about Favre showing up has been Green Bay's biggest tactical mistake.
                Absolutely, a terrible mistake on GB's part. But not too late to correct.
                Again, show me where the Packers have refused to let him show up. Favre didn't file his papers until now and now Goodell is sitting on them. He isn;t allowed into camp until Goodell does his job. So how can you say the Packers made a mistake since his current status doens't allow him in camp anyway?
                Maybe its a matter of perception, which is driven by the media coverage. But it sure seems like the Packers are treating a return by Favre as the sky falling down.
                It is a preception becuase McCarthy has repeatedly stated Favre would be welcome back. To say that they won't let Favre in is a joke as the facts clearly show that to be false.

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                • #98
                  cpk1994, I think you are missing the point that DonHutson originally made and that others agreed with. Nobody is arguing that the Packers are officially barring Favre. It is the perception of weakness they have created by trying so hard to persuade Favre to stay away, no doubt exaggerated by the media.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    cpk1994, I think you are missing the point that DonHutson originally made and that others agreed with. Nobody is arguing that the Packers are officially barring Favre. It is the perception of weakness they have created by trying so hard to persuade Favre to stay away, no doubt exaggerated by the media.
                    Yes but when you add the line "Why don't the Packers let him show up" you are stating that the Packers in some way re refusing to let him show up which is absolutely false. Thats the part Im addressing.

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                    • Originally posted by DonHutson
                      This is why the Packers should've just let Favre show up, media be damned. If they hadn't acted so afraid of his presence, they'd be more convincing when they tell the Vikings to pay up now or they'll be waiting a long time.
                      I agree. They blew it there. It would have been a media circus either way.



                      It is almost common knowledge that Favre wants to play for the Vikings, and it's part of the reason why the Packers filed tampering charges against Minnesota earlier this month...

                      So what would it take to execute a trade? First, the sides would have to talk through the emotions that flared up during the summer. The Packers, according to ESPN's John Clayton and others, believe the Vikings tried to stir the pot, if nothing else, by consulting with Favre on his decision to apply for reinstatement. The Vikings, on the other hand, were livid when the Packers initiated a tampering investigation, believing it was an attempt by the Packers to draw attention away from their own missteps.

                      Those emotions are still bubbling on the surface. Wednesday, we asked Packers coach Mike McCarthy whether he had any competitive concerns about facing Favre on another team, in the NFC North or otherwise.

                      "As far as where Brett Favre goes or if he's going to go," McCarthy said, "those are all hypotheticals. I'd really like to share my opinion on that, but I'm not going to do that."

                      In an instigating mood, we encouraged McCarthy to offer that opinion. Alas, he shook his head.

                      "That's why I'm holding on to this mike," he said, glancing down at his white-knuckled grip on a television microphone stand.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • Originally posted by cpk1994
                        Yes but when you add the line "Why don't the Packers let him show up" you are stating that the Packers in some way re refusing to let him show up which is absolutely false.
                        I see.

                        you misunderstood DonHutson's sentence. it was not meant to be read literally. It meant let him show-up without all the handwringing.

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