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  • Originally posted by billy_oliver880
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
    Originally posted by Rastak


    It's actually closer to 5 out of 20....
    According to my calculation 5 of 20 = 1 of 4. I can not honestly belive 25% of their reports are truthful. I just can't.
    Did you read the list of injuries and the complexity of them? Its going to take awhile for this guy to be healed up.
    I watched the 6 PM sportscenter yesturday and they said Big Ben wasnt in serious condition. I tend to believe SC more than PFT.

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    • Originally posted by Tony Oday
      Well go down that path and you have to make it so there is only one person in each car because distractions by a passanger is the number one reason for accidents. Atleast that is what my insurance guy told me
      I think I might try and sedate my wife before she gets in my car from now on thanks to your little tidbit. Thanks!!!

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      • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        PFT tells you. Only 1 out of ever 20 stories by PFT is credible.

        Where did I write that I believe them?
        I assumed since you like to post PFT articles.

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        • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by woodbuck27
          Right now in canada we are facing the consequences of operators of auto's using cell phones and one hand on the whell and with the inherant distraction that comes with that now common practise. This is taking innocent lives. and will soon be dealt with in Canada ,I believe.
          Headsets are cheap and much safer than having to hold up the phone. Voice recogition/autodial software means you shouldn't have to hunt down numbers in your cell phone book - also, a much safer alternative. There are already laws in some areas of the US requiring headset use.

          Yes Scott headsets are used by smarter people, but that is the rare case now in this ever growing concern here.

          We just had a young child killed in the Montreal area, by an operator of an auto using a cell phone at he time of that accident.

          As early as 2001, the Canadian Medical Association Journal called for laws restricting cell phone use while driving because of the risks involved. However, the Canada Safety Council says there are few hard facts that connect cell phone use with auto accidents and points to bad drivers instead, although it urges drivers to avoid unnecessary calls while driving.

          but get this:

          The problem
          A study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1997, which was one of the earliest but still one of the most comprehensive studies on cell phone usage while driving, found that the risk of vehicle accidents is four times greater when motorists are using cell phones. A 2002 study by the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis estimated that the use of cell phones by drivers results in approximately 2,600 deaths, 330,000 injuries and 1.5 million instances of property damage in the United States each year.

          Part of the problem involves reduced physical control (trying to steer with one hand). The more significant problem, though, is mental inattentiveness. That is, many employers have attempted to reduce the risk of vehicle accidents while their employees are using cell phones by arranging for them to use hands-free devices. However, these devices are even more of a problem, because they encourage people to talk longer and more frequently on cell phones while driving.

          A 2003 University of Utah study found that drivers using hands-free cell phones are less attentive than drunk drivers. In the study, subjects used a driving simulator. Those talking on cell phones had slower reaction times and more accidents than the other subjects who had consumed vodka and orange juice until their blood alcohol levels reached .08 percent, the legal limit for driving in most states.

          Why is a cell phone conversation more distracting than a conversation with a passenger in your vehicle? Your passenger can actually be a driving aid, helping you keep your eyes on the road and pointing out potential hazards ahead. In addition, if driving does become hazardous, your passenger tends to stop talking and begins to help you navigate. The person on the other end of a cell phone, though, has no idea what’s going on while you’re trying to drive and will thus continue to talk, regardless of how dangerous your driving situation has become. Since the other person wants to keep talking, you, as the driver, also feel obligated to continue talking, which distracts you from your primary responsibility: focusing all of your attention on driving.
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          • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            PFT tells you. Only 1 out of ever 20 stories by PFT is credible.
            Where did I write that I believe them?
            I assumed since you like to post PFT articles.[/quote]


            Even they (PFT) are now saying he may be ready for the season....what a lucky guy. By all rights they should be arranging his funeral right now. I wonder what sort of shape he'll be in after only liquids while his jaw heals.

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            • Originally posted by Rastak


              Even they (PFT) are now saying he may be ready for the season....what a lucky guy. By all rights they should be arranging his funeral right now. I wonder what sort of shape he'll be in after only liquids while his jaw heals.
              I am going to stick to the high road. I really doubt this far along into his recovery that anyone could really have a good estimate for his return to football.

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              • Originally posted by Little Whiskey
                This is hardly his fault.
                But, Whiskey, in the end he's the one that got "jacked up". Not wearing the helmet WAS his fault. Not having the proper license WAS his fault. He's no victim.

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                • Originally posted by woodbuck27
                  Why is a cell phone conversation more distracting than a conversation with a passenger in your vehicle? Your passenger can actually be a driving aid, helping you keep your eyes on the road and pointing out potential hazards ahead.

                  What if your passangers include screaming and fighting and barfing kids that have no awareness whatsoever of road/traffic conditions. They're not much help navigating.

                  I think they'll be hard pressed to legislate against the use of headsets. That might be taking things too far. Either that, or they'll have to outlaw the danged kids first.

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                  • Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    PFT tells you. Only 1 out of ever 20 stories by PFT is credible.
                    Where did I write that I believe them?
                    I assumed since you like to post PFT articles.
                    [/quote]

                    I woudn't read that into the situation.

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                    • I feel bad for Big Ben. His football season is impacted by an off-field incident.

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                      • Originally posted by BooHoo
                        I feel bad for Big Ben. His football season is impacted by an off-field incident.

                        Yeah, Kellen Winslow too.... Idiots.

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                        • Originally posted by retailguy
                          Originally posted by BooHoo
                          I feel bad for Big Ben. His football season is impacted by an off-field incident.

                          Yeah, Kellen Winslow too.... Idiots.
                          That was an unfortunate situation also.

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                          • Originally posted by BooHoo
                            Originally posted by retailguy
                            Originally posted by BooHoo
                            I feel bad for Big Ben. His football season is impacted by an off-field incident.

                            Yeah, Kellen Winslow too.... Idiots.
                            That was an unfortunate situation also.

                            He was an even bigger dummy for trying to do tricks while still learning to ride the damn thing.

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                            • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                              I watched the 6 PM sportscenter yesturday and they said Big Ben wasnt in serious condition. I tend to believe SC more than PFT.
                              Considering he was in surgery 7 hours yesterday...and had the accident around noon...I would assume Sportscenter was a little premature on claiming he wasn't in serious condition, since he was likely on the operating table as they were speaking.

                              ESPN isn't exactly very good at on-scene reporting, especially for a story that is in the making. These are sports journalists by and large...who have spent the majority of their time writing, talking, and meeting deadlines WELL AFTER things actually happen.

                              This is in stark contrast to regular news outlets, who routinely deal with developing situations...and have a better idea who to talk to and where to go to get information critical to a continuing story that involves a lot of unknowns.
                              My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                              • They said 8 weeks recovery, 4 weeks to get back into shape (conditioning) and 4 more weeks before serious hitting on the radio this morning. All are estimates obviously, but it seemed logical to me since he is supposedly receovered in 8 weeks. Assuming he loses a ton of weight, he'll have to beef up and improve his cardiovascular shape at the sametime, which is pretty tough to do.

                                I just hope he doesn't get gunshine under center with a "fake" face from this point forth. That could really damage a promising career!!

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