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i don't understand GB007 - they won't keep Favre off the field - the deal is good even if he plays for the vikings this year
I seriously can't believe he REALLY wants to play for anyone but the Packers. I can't help but think all the other talk is just revenge for feeling kicked to the curb. TT may suspect that as well.
Maybe so, but I can't see Favre taking the money to do that. He wants to play football and claims it's never been about the money. God knows he shouldn't need any.
I thought this made it clear that this money isn't related to his playing football. I guess people will continue to think the worst even after they've jumped to conclusions and then got proven wrong. Oh well, keep those umbrellas handy. The sky will fall one of these days, I'm sure.
No idea what you're talking about. Clearly the Packers are hoping he'll take this gig and decide to NOT play football right? Yea yea they said if he plays he can still take this deal, but one would think they're hoping he takes this deal and forgets about playing right? I thought this was fairly obvious.
I seriously can't believe he REALLY wants to play for anyone but the Packers. I can't help but think all the other talk is just revenge for feeling kicked to the curb. TT may suspect that as well.
I hope he doesn't take the deal.
Why not? It guarantees that no matter who Favre plays for this year, he'll be a packer again when he retires. The fences will be mended and everyone will get along.
What's not to like?
Originally posted by imscott72
No idea what you're talking about. Clearly the Packers are hoping he'll take this gig and decide to NOT play football right? Yea yea they said if he plays he can still take this deal, but one would think they're hoping he takes this deal and forgets about playing right? I thought this was fairly obvious.
No no no, if he plays for another team, he still gets the money. It just means that when he's done playing, he'll be back working for the packers again.
This has nothing to do with playing or retiring. It just will help mend the fences when Favre hangs up his helmet.
No idea what you're talking about. Clearly the Packers are hoping he'll take this gig and decide to NOT play football right? Yea yea they said if he plays he can still take this deal, but one would think they're hoping he takes this deal and forgets about playing right? I thought this was fairly obvious.
Maybe he takes the deal and then goes to the Jets. Maybe this deal is a good incentive for him to quit pushing his release (so he can go to the Vikings). Apparently, Bus and the Jets have been talking today.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.
I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
If it's true that the offer is still on the table even if Favre plays a couple seasons with the Bucs or the Jets then I absolutely DO hope he agrees to it.
i'm afraid some people are going to see what they want to see
So they with give him the $20 million to accept a trade?
what part of it is hard to understand? they will give him $20 million to be an ambassador for the team AFTER he concludes his nfl career - regardless of whether he plays for the vikings, retires tomorrow, or plays as the backup for the packers for 5 more years
There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.
I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
If it's true that the offer is still on the table even if Favre plays a couple seasons with the Bucs or the Jets then I absolutely DO hope he agrees to it.
i'm afraid some people are going to see what they want to see
So they with give him the $20 million to accept a trade?
what part of it is hard to understand? they will give him $20 million to be an ambassador for the team AFTER he concludes his nfl career - regardless of whether he plays for the vikings, retires tomorrow, or plays as the backup for the packers for 5 more years
ahh dont kill me! i get i get it!
sorry chevelle, my frustration was not intended for you --- i understand you were being inquisitive.
There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.
I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
If it's true that the offer is still on the table even if Favre plays a couple seasons with the Bucs or the Jets then I absolutely DO hope he agrees to it.
i'm afraid some people are going to see what they want to see
So they with give him the $20 million to accept a trade?
what part of it is hard to understand? they will give him $20 million to be an ambassador for the team AFTER he concludes his nfl career - regardless of whether he plays for the vikings, retires tomorrow, or plays as the backup for the packers for 5 more years
ahh dont kill me! i get i get it!
sorry chevelle, my frustration was not intended for you --- i understand you were being inquisitive.
There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.
I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
If it's true that the offer is still on the table even if Favre plays a couple seasons with the Bucs or the Jets then I absolutely DO hope he agrees to it.
i'm afraid some people are going to see what they want to see
So they with give him the $20 million to accept a trade?
what part of it is hard to understand? they will give him $20 million to be an ambassador for the team AFTER he concludes his nfl career - regardless of whether he plays for the vikings, retires tomorrow, or plays as the backup for the packers for 5 more years
I think you both are missing out on what the real agenda is here for the Packers. Why would Murphy go all the way down there to renew this offer if they weren't hoping he'd take this deal and agree not to play. Why wouldn't Cook acknowledge the deal was offered if Murphy wasn't urging Brett to do this and not play. Think what you want, but I think it was worded this way in an attempt to bribe Favre into not playing, but worded carefully as too not appear as a bribe. Sure other past NFL players were offered this like you say, but were the circumstances similar? Were they also wanting to come back to their old team and play but not wanted? It's apples and oranges and you can't make that comparison.
They made the offer before, and Favre didn't accept it. Maybe the stipulation was that he stay retired. Maybe this time they said you can take the money and play football. You just have to go to a team that we would be okay with. That way Favre gets this $20M, stays associated with the Packers, and he gets his huge salary also.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
They made the offer before, and Favre didn't accept it. Maybe the stipulation was that he stay retired. Maybe this time they said you can take the money and play football. You just have to go to a team that we would be okay with. That way Favre gets this $20M, stays associated with the Packers, and he gets his huge salary also.
I guess what I'm saying is if Murphy renewed the deal with stipulations like you said, such as "you have to go to a team we choose", how is that not a bribe? I guess the timing is what makes me suspicious. Why now do they choose to do this when it seems their only goal is to get rid of him so he can't come to camp? I can't help but think there were stipulations attached, but we'll probably never know unless Brett of course tells them to "shove it" and goes public with what was offered.
I think you both are missing out on what the real agenda is here for the Packers. Why would Murphy go all the way down there to renew this offer if they weren't hoping he'd take this deal and agree not to play. Why wouldn't Cook acknowledge the deal was offered if Murphy wasn't urging Brett to do this and not play. Think what you want, but I think it was worded this way in an attempt to bribe Favre into not playing, but worded carefully as too not appear as a bribe. Sure other past NFL players were offered this like you say, but were the circumstances similar? Were they also wanting to come back to their old team and play but not wanted? It's apples and oranges and you can't make that comparison.
He didn't go down to renew the offer. He went down to try to find a way to get Brett to stay away from camp while they worked on a trade.
While he was down there, he just let Brett know that the deal that he offered in March, and talked about through June still stood whether he played for another team or not. There was no reason to bribe back in March, so considering that this is the same deal as then, it's no bribe.
Why stop there if your Brett or Bus? The stipulations keep falling by the day.
Next thing the org does will offer a team to take Favre and we'll pay his salary (or we'll package him up with Grant to 'liven' up the deal). ANYTHING to 'make this go away'.
Or maybe a full time look-a-like so he can only commit to appearances when he feels like it....
Here's a thought. Let him compete for the starting QB position and see what happens. So you piss off Rodgers - why not trade him for some value and have Favre groom Brohm/Flynn for another year or two.
Nah - too easy....
The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.
I guess what I'm saying is if Murphy renewed the deal with stipulations like you said, such as "you have to go to a team we choose", how is that not a bribe? I guess the timing is what makes me suspicious. Why now do they choose to do this when it seems their only goal is to get rid of him so he can't come to camp? I can't help but think there were stipulations attached, but we'll probably never know unless Brett of course tells them to "shove it" and goes public with what was offered.
I don't see it as a bribe. The relationship had deteriorated. This is a way to make Favre know how much the Packers care about him AND it allows him to play football this year. As mad as I've been with Brett, I doubt he doesn't want to have an assocation with the Packers after he retires. The situation had gotten into a box. The Packers were willing to trade Brett, but not to Minnesota. Brett wanted to stick it to the Packers and wanted to go to Minnesota. This is a compromise, and the Packers organization and Brett repair their relationship. I think this solution would be quite brilliant.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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