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  • #46
    It has been made infinitely clear, and with a lot of credibility, that the Packers will not under any circumstances release Favre to allow him to play for the Vikes.

    They'd rather take the heat by allowing him to come to camp and hold for Crosby or play catch with the water boy.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by GrnBay007
      There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
      Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.

      I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
      I luv ya, 007, but we couldn't be further apart on this one. I found Cook's quote at the end of the JSO article most interesting: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play," Cook said. "However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."

      This is revealing to me. I don't know that Favre really wants to play. He wants to be able to play if he so chooses. Makes me wonder if that's what this is all about. If the Packers do what Favre wants ("Sure, Brett, you can walk into camp any time and we'll make you the starter and worship you!" or "We've moved on but we'll give you your release even though we'd be getting screwed"), he might be happy and just say "okay, just wanted to get what I wanted. I don't really want to play."
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #48
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        I could root for Brett if he was on the Jets.


        According to "this source," the offer was extended in March... shortly after Brett retired. If it's true and it's accepted, I'd be thrilled.



        GREEN BAY -- The Green Bay Packers' much-publicized 10-year, $20 million offer to Brett Favre was part of an ongoing negotiation on a long-term marketing and licensing agreement between the club and its quarterback -- and not a last-ditch attempt to pay Favre to stay away from training camp, according to a source close to the negotiations...

        ESPN reported later Thursday that Favre acknowledged he was in negotiations with the Packers and was seriously considering the offer. A source close to Favre confirmed to the State Journal the quarterback is contemplating accepting the deal and could do so soon.

        Other Hall of Fame-caliber quarterbacks signed similar agreements with their teams -- including Dan Marino with the Miami Dolphins, Jim Kelly with the Buffalo Bills and John Elway with the Denver Broncos -- after their careers ended, so such a deal with Favre would not be unusual.

        Citing sources close to Favre, WTMJ-TV in Milwaukee reported Wednesday night that during the meeting Murphy presented Favre and Cook with an offer in which the Packers would pay Favre $2 million per year over the next 10 years to stay retired.

        The report intimated the offer was a new development in the ongoing Favre saga, which began when Favre informed coach Mike McCarthy June 20 he was considering a comeback and the club wasn 't as receptive to the idea as Favre had hoped.
        Again you can't compare those other scenarios with Brett's because these other QB's weren't trying to force their way back to play. It may be a similar offer, but slightly different circumstances.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Fritz
          Originally posted by GrnBay007
          There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
          Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.

          I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
          I luv ya, 007, but we couldn't be further apart on this one. I found Cook's quote at the end of the JSO article most interesting: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play," Cook said. "However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."

          This is revealing to me. I don't know that Favre really wants to play. He wants to be able to play if he so chooses. Makes me wonder if that's what this is all about. If the Packers do what Favre wants ("Sure, Brett, you can walk into camp any time and we'll make you the starter and worship you!" or "We've moved on but we'll give you your release even though we'd be getting screwed"), he might be happy and just say "okay, just wanted to get what I wanted. I don't really want to play."

          Makes complete sense he wants to play for the packers or he wants to see if Brady or Manning or Romo breaks a leg in pre-season and he can chose the best spot for him, that may well be Minnesota but I don't think Brett went into this wanting to go to the Vikings that has all been media driven.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Fritz
            Originally posted by GrnBay007
            There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
            Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.

            I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
            I luv ya, 007, but we couldn't be further apart on this one. I found Cook's quote at the end of the JSO article most interesting: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play," Cook said. "However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."

            This is revealing to me. I don't know that Favre really wants to play. He wants to be able to play if he so chooses. Makes me wonder if that's what this is all about. If the Packers do what Favre wants ("Sure, Brett, you can walk into camp any time and we'll make you the starter and worship you!" or "We've moved on but we'll give you your release even though we'd be getting screwed"), he might be happy and just say "okay, just wanted to get what I wanted. I don't really want to play."
            You can't honestly believe he doesn't want to play can you? Why all the contact with Bevell and Chilly? Why go put his family through this entire mess if he doesn't really wanna play? He definitely wants to play, I think what he's unsure about it whether he wants to actually play with a team of the Packers choosing.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by imscott72
              Originally posted by Fritz
              Originally posted by GrnBay007
              There is some thought that the gesture was made to allow Favre a chance to consider how the Packers feel about him in the long-term. The contract offer is not dependent on Favre retiring and would be available to him when he retired even if he played for another team this year.
              Yes, that's a nice little "job" for Favre. Packers will make a lot of money in addition to keeping Favre off the field.

              I really hope he doesn't agree to something like this. ....well, if it's true he really wants to play, which I think is the case.
              I luv ya, 007, but we couldn't be further apart on this one. I found Cook's quote at the end of the JSO article most interesting: "If he was given his release, there's no guarantee he'd go anywhere to play," Cook said. "However, he'd have the freedom to choose if he should decide to play."

              This is revealing to me. I don't know that Favre really wants to play. He wants to be able to play if he so chooses. Makes me wonder if that's what this is all about. If the Packers do what Favre wants ("Sure, Brett, you can walk into camp any time and we'll make you the starter and worship you!" or "We've moved on but we'll give you your release even though we'd be getting screwed"), he might be happy and just say "okay, just wanted to get what I wanted. I don't really want to play."
              You can't honestly believe he doesn't want to play can you? Why all the contact with Bevell and Chilly? Why go put his family through this entire mess if he doesn't really wanna play? He definitely wants to play, I think what he's unsure about it whether he wants to actually play with a team of the Packers choosing.
              Yes, I can. Look at Cook's quote. Look at the part I've put into boldface. I believe Favre still doesn't know if he wants to play - he wants to be able to play.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Fosco33
                Why stop there if your Brett or Bus? The stipulations keep falling by the day.

                Next thing the org does will offer a team to take Favre and we'll pay his salary (or we'll package him up with Grant to 'liven' up the deal). ANYTHING to 'make this go away'.

                Or maybe a full time look-a-like so he can only commit to appearances when he feels like it....



                Here's a thought. Let him compete for the starting QB position and see what happens. So you piss off Rodgers - why not trade him for some value and have Favre groom Brohm/Flynn for another year or two.

                Nah - too easy....

                Again, Favre refuses to compete. What don't you understand about that?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Again, Favre refuses to compete. What don't you understand about that?
                  Again, Favre has asked about competing...but the Packers are not open to a competition. Rodgers is their QB, and there will be no competition.

                  I'm fine with that...but stop with the notion that Favre isn't willing to compete. The Packers aren't willing to let him compete, because they've made their decision already.
                  My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by The Leaper
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    Again, Favre refuses to compete. What don't you understand about that?
                    Again, Favre has asked about competing...but the Packers are not open to a competition. Rodgers is their QB, and there will be no competition.

                    I'm fine with that...but stop with the notion that Favre isn't willing to compete. The Packers aren't willing to let him compete, because they've made their decision already.
                    Foxnews. "Come in as a backup"

                    Favre: "Why?"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by The Leaper
                      Originally posted by cpk1994
                      Again, Favre refuses to compete. What don't you understand about that?
                      Again, Favre has asked about competing...but the Packers are not open to a competition. Rodgers is their QB, and there will be no competition.

                      I'm fine with that...but stop with the notion that Favre isn't willing to compete. The Packers aren't willing to let him compete, because they've made their decision already.
                      Again the one saying they won't let him compete is Favre himself and he hasn't exactly been a man of integrity lately. Until Mike McCarthy states on the record that Favre can't compete, I won't believe it. I don't take any shit from Favre as truth anymore. you'd be wise to do the same in this issue.

                      Edit: Spelling

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                      • #56
                        Maybe this question has already been asked, but would this $20 million dollar payout count towards their salary cap? Or is it just taken out of their reserve fund type of thing?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by cpk1994
                          Again the one saying they won't let him compete is Favre himself and he hasn't exactly been a man of integrity lately. Until Mike McCarthy states on the record that Favre can't compete, I won't believe it. I don't take any shit from Favre as truth anymore. you'd be wise to do the same in this issue.

                          Edit: Spelling
                          I agree with the Leaper on this one. There will be no competition because M3's already confirmed that Rodgers will be the starter for the preseason games. Also, there a lot of good reasons to not allow for a competition, not the least of which is whether Brett would accept the coaches decision if he lost.

                          So, open competition at that position is a bad idea and M3 is right not to allow it.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by boiga
                            Originally posted by cpk1994
                            Again the one saying they won't let him compete is Favre himself and he hasn't exactly been a man of integrity lately. Until Mike McCarthy states on the record that Favre can't compete, I won't believe it. I don't take any shit from Favre as truth anymore. you'd be wise to do the same in this issue.

                            Edit: Spelling
                            I agree with the Leaper on this one. There will be no competition because M3's already confirmed that Rodgers will be the starter for the preseason games. Also, there a lot of good reasons to not allow for a competition, not the least of which is whether Brett would accept the coaches decision if he lost.

                            So, open competition at that position is a bad idea and M3 is right not to allow it.
                            Yeah he has, but that by no means says there is no competiton. That just means Rodgers is the forst one out there. You are reading into McCarthy's words. Until McCarthy states ON THE RECORD, that there is no competition, it is just another Favre BS ploy.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by GBRulz
                              Maybe this question has already been asked, but would this $20 million dollar payout count towards their salary cap? Or is it just taken out of their reserve fund type of thing?
                              It would be a non-football contract so it wouldnt count towards the cap. Its pretty much a front office job.
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • #60
                                This would be the best of all possible solutions.

                                Favre would stay retired with no possibility of playing for anybody else, and if Rodgers got injured or whatever, I would certainly think Favre would get the call.

                                It just doesn't get any better than that--if it happens.
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