Goodell delays reinstatment yet again..

[Harlan Huckleby]

Its become clear through two delays, the Packers are not willing to host the circus that has been the logical end of this game of chicken. Maybe its Harlan, the Exec Committee or Murphy who fear it, but they don't want to go the final yard.

ya, I think you are right on. Just speculation, though.

I think Favre supporters have a very unrealistic view of what will happen when Favre arrives in GB. I can say one thing for sure: Favre is not going to be the QB of the Packers unless Rodgers is near death. And Favre is not up for the #2 job.

So think this through, Favre Fans. You are not going to get what you want. The Packer Org may be cornered into doing something unpleasant, and you may take some satisfaction at their misery and embarassment, but it will be a no win for all.

[Rastak]

Man, there must be a bunch of arm twisting going on behind the scenes for Goodell to drag this out. What a weird friggen story.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Man, there must be a bunch of arm twisting going on behind the scenes for Goodell to drag this out. What a weird friggen story.

Maybe, but I think it is more like this: both sides have established their positions. Favre coming to GB will be pure misery for him, despite the fantasy that some of his fans have running through their heads. And obviously it will be hell for the team.

I want to believe that both parties realize they can hammer out some deal now as easily as they can in three weeks after much tension and stress for all.


Goodell would not be doing this without the approval of Favre. The Favre camp would be squawking "bloody murder" to Chris Mortenson otherwise. And Mortenson would then report it as "genocide!"

[Rastak]

Man, there must be a bunch of arm twisting going on behind the scenes for Goodell to drag this out. What a weird friggen story.

Maybe, but I think it is more like this: both sides have established their positions. Favre coming to GB will be pure misery for him, despite the fantasy that some of his fans have running through their heads. And obviously it will be hell for the team.

I want to believe that both parties realize they can hammer out some deal now as easily as they can in three weeks after much tension and stress for all.


Goodell would not be doing this without the approval of Favre. The Favre camp would be squawking "bloody murder" to Chris Mortenson otherwise. And Mortenson would then report it as "genocide!"

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement. The NFLPA could raise holy hell if they wanted to. It's obvious to me there is a bunch of arm twisting. This is straight forward. ]Favre wants to come back. Commish reinstates. What basis would he have to deny the request? None. Bizzaro world.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If Favre plays this year, it's very likely that it will be for another team. Thus, I'm all for the delay. It just gives him less time to get acclimated to his new team (and its scheme), and I'm cool with that--especially if he goes to Minnesota.

Three cheers for Goodell.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement.

Yes there is. FAvre wants it delayed. He doesn't want to be center of a circus if he can avoid it.

Give it up Rastak: Vikes aren't getting Favre.

[Gunakor]

Man, there must be a bunch of arm twisting going on behind the scenes for Goodell to drag this out. What a weird friggen story.

Maybe, but I think it is more like this: both sides have established their positions. Favre coming to GB will be pure misery for him, despite the fantasy that some of his fans have running through their heads. And obviously it will be hell for the team.

I want to believe that both parties realize they can hammer out some deal now as easily as they can in three weeks after much tension and stress for all.


Goodell would not be doing this without the approval of Favre. The Favre camp would be squawking "bloody murder" to Chris Mortenson otherwise. And Mortenson would then report it as "genocide!"

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement. The NFLPA could raise holy hell if they wanted to. It's obvious to me there is a bunch of arm twisting. This is straight forward. ]Favre wants to come back. Commish reinstates. What basis would he have to deny the request? None. Bizzaro world.

First off, Gene Upshaw said even in light of recent developments he and his union are not involved and will not be involved unless Green Bay violates his contract. Until Goodell acts then there's nothing the NFLPA can do even if they wanted to.

Favre wants to come back on his terms only. It doesn't work that way, and I'm sure the NFLPA has taken notice of that fact. As has Roger Goodell.

Per Goodell, he will not do ANYTHING as long as talks between Favre and the Packers are progressing. There is no reason to place unnecessary pressure on either side if thier discussions are moving along. If they reach a standstill, then Goodell acts to speed things up. But he'd prefer they handle it on thier own without any external pressure. Basically, Goodell doesn't want to expedite a release when TT might be able to work out a deal if given time to do so. Remember, TT can't work out a deal if the papers aren't in, so this is only a couple days old. Give him some time.

[imscott72]

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement.

Yes there is. FAvre wants it delayed. He doesn't want to be center of a circus if he can avoid it.

Give it up Rastak: Vikes aren't getting Favre.

How do you figure Favre wants it delayed? He had the engines running on his damn plane for goodness sakes. I don't think this delay has anything to do with Favre.

[Gunakor]

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement.

Yes there is. FAvre wants it delayed. He doesn't want to be center of a circus if he can avoid it.

Give it up Rastak: Vikes aren't getting Favre.

How do you figure Favre wants it delayed? He had the engines running on his damn plane for goodness sakes. I don't think this delay has anything to do with Favre.

True, but he's also reported to be considering the Packers marketing offer. As long as he's considering that offer, why would Goodell reinstate him and put a timetable on his decision?

[Harlan Huckleby]

How do you figure Favre wants it delayed? He had the engines running on his damn plane for goodness sakes. I don't think this delay has anything to do with Favre.

It is done with Favre's approval. He is now evaluating some offers, more than likely.

If this was Goodell sticking his dick in Favre's butt you would hear Favre's screams through ESPN.

[MJZiggy]

Man, there must be a bunch of arm twisting going on behind the scenes for Goodell to drag this out. What a weird friggen story.

I thought Murphy going down to talk to Favre was Goodell's idea in the first place. I think he may want the media circus less than Favre and TT put together.

[Bretsky]

How do you figure Favre wants it delayed? He had the engines running on his damn plane for goodness sakes. I don't think this delay has anything to do with Favre.

It is done with Favre's approval. He is now evaluating some offers, more than likely.

If this was Goodell sticking his dick in Favre's butt you would hear Favre's screams through ESPN.

I agree with Rastak; I've been wrong plenty of times lately but I think this delay is at the request of GB and not Favre. Favre was ready to come days ago. It really doesn't hurt him to show up but it forces GB to speed things up if he still wants to play.

I also don't buy the notion that Favre whines at anything that doesn't go his way; he's done his share of whining but he's shut up for a while and it seems to has been alright in giving the Packers more time when they asked for it. So why all the anti Favre sentiment HH ? He's not nearly as evil as you portray him to be; both sides are just out for their own best interests

[boiga]

One other thing to remember is that Favre apparently had a long conversation with Goodell on Thursday. If he had been adamant about returning to camp, he could have forced the issue then. Goodell's been working with both sides on this one... but who knows if it will have any effect.

[Fritz]

If Goodell wants this to get cleared up, just reinstate Brett and let him travel up to Green Bay. I guarantee Thompson would have a deal done within 5 minutes.

Edit: speculation on poster's intelligence deleted.

What deal do you imagine that TT is holding back on?

Leaper and I don't often agree, but I think he's right here, Blue Dog. I believe that if Favre is reinstated and starts packing his cleats (do you think he has any of his own football stuff or is it all in Green Bay?), Ted will be forced to seriously consider and perhaps execute the option a few of us now desire: trade Favre to Minny.

It's clear Favre=as=backup will do nothing but prolong the agony for everyone - Favre, Rodgers, the team, the fans, the coaches, the management. So if Favre shows up, it would seem the team is desperate now to be rid of him. But he won't talk to the teams that have shown interest publicly - Tampa and New York. So ship him where he seems to want to go. Get a second rounder or some damn thing.

Get something for him, and let's just see how the season plays out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I agree with Rastak; I've been wrong plenty of times lately but I think this delay is at the request of GB and not Favre. Favre was ready to come days ago. It really doesn't hurt him to show up but it forces GB to speed things up if he still wants to play.

I don't care who's idea the delay was, but if Favre were unhappy about the delay, why is he not grousing? He is likely deciding on the offer the PAckers made to him. This is by far the most likely explanation.

So why all the anti Favre sentiment HH ? He's not nearly as evil as you portray him to be; both sides are just out for their own best interests

Well, again, I reject the "everybody's at fault so nobody's at fault" blurring. The team has taken a difficult situation and handled about as well as can be expected, right from the start. Favre has used his celebrity to demand that he be coach and GM of the PAckers. And his dewey-eyed fans let him get away with it.

I have lost all respect for Favre, even if I still admire some of the qualities that made him a winner in football. If this saga was just about playing football, he could have gone to Tampa to play with a decent team. His loyalty is not to the PAckers, it is to Brett Favre's ego. He was looking for another year of being the cock of the walk, on a SB contender like the Packers or MN.

I think we'll see him take the cash offer from the Packers, that is the best remaining option left for him to have his ego stroked.