Goodell delays reinstatment yet again..

[GrnBay007]

His loyalty is not to the PAckers, it is to Brett Favre's ego.

Wait, let me see if I got this right....

I've been told the Packers don't have to show loyalty to Brett Favre because this is big business....nothing more.

But it can't be all business with Brett Favre and he needs to show his loyalty to the Packers?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Packers showed Favre great loyalty. They did everything within reason to insure that he could finish his career in GB.

Favre put them behind the eight-ball with his late unretirement. I'm not blaming him for changing his mind, but his tactics and demands have been over the top.

[The Shadow]

The Commish need to formally recognize Favre as an Alltime Complete Asshat.

[SnakeLH2006]

I was talking to my boss today about this shit, and he made a valid point, that no matter what Goodell says/does, he's still management and will never go against that, thus siding with the BS in GB in not letting Brett have any leverage. Makes me sick as I've been a staunch supporter of TT, MM, but this shit has gone too far. Regardless of sides, politics, who the fuck can be Packer fan and NOT want Brett to play if he is "said" motivated and wants to play. Was he NOT the 2nd leading votegetter over 1000's of 2007 NFL players for MVP last year, this shit is sickening.

[Gunakor]

I was talking to my boss today about this shit, and he made a valid point, that no matter what Goodell says/does, he's still management and will never go against that, thus siding with the BS in GB in not letting Brett have any leverage. Makes me sick as I've been a staunch supporter of TT, MM, but this shit has gone too far. Regardless of sides, politics, who the fuck can be Packer fan and NOT want Brett to play if he is "said" motivated and wants to play. Was he NOT the 2nd leading votegetter over 1000's of 2007 NFL players for MVP last year, this shit is sickening.

Well, back in March I clearly recall him setting this all in motion by saying he was done, didn't want to do it anymore, and it's over. Ted Thompson has an organization to run, and his team needs to know who it's quarterback is. He moved on because Brett forced him to. TT isn't doing this to stick it to Brett, he's doing this because he made a committment and is sticking to it. That's more than you can say about Favre. This isn't just about football anymore. It's not just about winning and losing. It's about a committment to players who are actually ON the roster, and a committment to moving forward in the interest of long term success.

I fail to understand why people think Favre has earned the right to waffle, to act the dumbass, to insult certain members of the franchise, to skip mandatory offseason work, to create a big media distraction as the team is preparing for the new season, etc., and still come back as if nothing happened.

[cpk1994]

I agree with Rastak; I've been wrong plenty of times lately but I think this delay is at the request of GB and not Favre. Favre was ready to come days ago. It really doesn't hurt him to show up but it forces GB to speed things up if he still wants to play.

I don't care who's idea the delay was, but if Favre were unhappy about the delay, why is he not grousing? He is likely deciding on the offer the PAckers made to him. This is by far the most likely explanation.

So why all the anti Favre sentiment HH ? He's not nearly as evil as you portray him to be; both sides are just out for their own best interests

Well, again, I reject the "everybody's at fault so nobody's at fault" blurring. The team has taken a difficult situation and handled about as well as can be expected, right from the start. Favre has used his celebrity to demand that he be coach and GM of the PAckers. And his dewey-eyed fans let him get away with it.

I have lost all respect for Favre, even if I still admire some of the qualities that made him a winner in football. If this saga was just about playing football, he could have gone to Tampa to play with a decent team. His loyalty is not to the PAckers, it is to Brett Favre's ego. He was looking for another year of being the cock of the walk, on a SB contender like the Packers or MN.

I think we'll see him take the cash offer from the Packers, that is the best remaining option left for him to have his ego stroked.

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[cpk1994]

Not really, especially if it means he decides to accept the deal and retire again.

The deal isn't contingent on retirement, and has nothing to do with whether or not Favre plays in 2008...or so the Packers say.

If that is true, the marketing agreement has nothing to do with what the Packers are going to do with Favre.

You are missing my point. Why should Goodell reinstate Favre now if there is a possibility Favre decides to accept the deal AND then chooses to stay retired?

Also, the probable reason that Goodell is delaying this is becuase of something that is happening in Canton, OH this weekend. Something that Goodell doesn't want overshadowed.

[Gunakor]

Not really, especially if it means he decides to accept the deal and retire again.

The deal isn't contingent on retirement, and has nothing to do with whether or not Favre plays in 2008...or so the Packers say.

If that is true, the marketing agreement has nothing to do with what the Packers are going to do with Favre.

You are missing my point. Why should Goodell reinstate Favre now if there is a possibility Favre decides to accept the deal AND then chooses to stay retired?

Also, the probable reason that Goodell is delaying this is becuase of something that is happening in Canton, OH this weekend. Something that Goodell doesn't want overshadowed.

Excellent point about the HOF ceremony.

[Fritz]

Here's a paragraph (just a paragraph, mad!) from today's JSO about that 20 mill offer and how accepting it might affect Favre's playing football this year:

"There is only a small window through which a player who has a non-playing contract with a club can still apply for reinstatement, but it closes well before the start of the regular season. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello confirmed that the rule existed and said any player on the reserve/retired list who was employed by a club off the field would not be eligible for the roster after the cut-down to 75 players.

This year, the deadline for teams to cut their rosters to 75 is 3 p.m. Aug. 26."

GHiven how things have gone, here's one possible sceneario:

Favre accepts the settlement on Sunday, August 3rd. He says he's thrilled to be a Packer for life. He says it's been rough but he's glad it's over. TT says same stuff - it's been rough, Brett's the man, and so on. Fence-mending begins.

On Friday, August 15th, rumors begin that Favre really would like to play. He's having second (or third or fourth) thoughts. Favre puts out a fague denial through his friend Al Jones.

On August 24th, Favre files for re-reinstatement.

[cpk1994]

IF BRett did that, he wouyld lose almost all of the fanbase he has left.

[Fritz]

Minnesota fans would line up to kiss his rear end after his first touchdown toss in a Vikings' uniform.

[cpk1994]

True, but if Brett accepted the Packers offer, retired and re-reinstated again as you theorize, he more than likely pisses off Goodell. You don't dick around the commsih.

[pbmax]

I mean, it not like the Commish has any interest in avoiding a media circus during the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. He clearly has no interest for one of the League's signature franchises and iconic players to stop embarrassing themselves daily.

And it cannot be that Goodell has come to the realization that the only way this ends quickly is for Favre to stay retired and the only way to do that might be to pay him to stay retired. The alternative is for him to reinstate, media circus to ensue, Packer's trade him without his consent for a bag of doughnuts or the Packer's to release him the weekend before the first game.

[Guiness]

Here's the deal, there is absolutely no rational reason for Goodell to delay his reinstatement. The NFLPA could raise holy hell if they wanted to. It's obvious to me there is a bunch of arm twisting. This is straight forward. ]Favre wants to come back. Commish reinstates. What basis would he have to deny the request? None. Bizzaro world.

I agree that the NFLPA would be kicking up a storm IF Favre didn't tell him it was ok to delay the re-enstatement.

Here's my take: Brett filed to let the Pack know he's serious about playing again this year. He was getting a lot of bad PR for saying he wanted to play, and not filing for re-instatement. Pretty much every poster to a one here said that's what he had to do.

So he has, and now the ball is in the Pack's court, pressure is on them to act, and they are taking the PR hit if they don't. You could see the sentiment around here change after news came out that he filed.

HOWEVER, he probably doesn't want to actually be in GB at this point, and the Pack certainly doesn't want him there. If the re-instatement was done, he'd be contractually obligated to be here, and the team could fine him if he wasn't!!!

So, I think he and the Pack told Goodell it's ok to not process the papers.

I dunno Makes as much sense as anything else!

[Bub]

Both sides are for this delay. If this delay made BF that angry surely you'd hear it from his agent, the guy in the barbershop, his dog, a guy he once played with in elementary school, friends and family. I think both sides of this have agreed to have this delayed while they work on things. Why would you "officially" come out of retirement and the next day retire again. I wonder if he were officially reinstated if that would delay his HOF induction?

Don't be so quick to blast Goodell and whatever other popular target. This isn't some conspiracy....get a hold of yourself.