Terry Bradshaw's take on Favre

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Terry Bradshaw's take on Favre

There has to be more to this whole Brett Favre story than we really know right now.

This is the battle cry of the anguished Favre supporter.

Its true we don't know much about more recent negotiations, but the past is pretty well documented, both sides haved weighed in. Favre hasn't pulled any punches.

[Guiness]

And I think the Vikes can probably kick the Lions' asses with TJack blindfolded much less having Favre on the roster...

Hell we could prolly scrape together a team of posters and give the Lions a run.

Anybody here read the comic strip Tank McNammara?

He had a great comic a couple of years ago. Detroit rescheduled a game against Chicago to be a day earlier. Chicago wasn't on the field, and the announcer was ridiculing the fact that they were only leading 28-0 at half time

Chicago chartered a plane, showed up mad as hell, and won the game :P

[packinpatland]

Re: Terry Bradshaw's take on Favre

There has to be more to this whole Brett Favre story than we really know right now.

This is the battle cry of the anguished Favre supporter.

Its true we don't know much about more recent negotiations, but the past is pretty well documented, both sides haved weighed in. Favre hasn't pulled any punches.

I didn't say that............Bradshaw did.................not that I don't agree with him tho.

[MJZiggy]

Well, he is an anguished Favre supporter, you know.

[HarveyWallbangers]

One last comment I would think whether you like TB or not he is a hell of a lot more qualified to comment on these matters than 99% of the posters on this forum being that he was an NFL player, he dealt with management, the media, fellow players, retirement from a professional sport etc.

Not really. We may not know all of the facts, but I wonder if he knows any. We care about this stuff. We know every detail. Many of those national guys know the headlines. I was listening to a lot of national sports radio yesterday, and it was amazing how little those guys knew about was actually going on.

[Freak Out]

Another guys take....

As Hall of Famers Reunite, an Insult to a Future One
By WILLIAM C. RHODEN

As the N.F.L. celebrates Hall of Fame weekend, a future Hall of Fame quarterback, Brett Favre, is being told by his team that he can’t leave the plantation: that he won’t be released, that he won’t be traded to a rival, that he will be traded only for a king’s ransom.

This is not the way to treat Brett Favre. This is not conduct worthy of a franchise like Green Bay, certainly not on a weekend when players who have given so much to the game are being honored.

We are approaching the point in this fiasco that Ted Thompson, the Packers’ general manager, and Mark Murphy, the team’s president, should feel ashamed of themselves, followed closely by Commissioner Roger Goodell.

The greatest insult was the Packers’ offer of a reported $20 million to Favre to stay retired, the idea behind the offer being that this was about money. Favre’s career was about performance; compensation was a byproduct of performance.

When you listen to Hall of Fame speeches in any sport, inductees don’t talk about the amount of money they made in their career. They talk about the joy of competing at the highest level and of having their talent recognized.

That the president of a team would offer a player of Favre’s stature money to stay away is a fireable offense.

Favre should reject the Packers’ offer. If he accepts it, his legacy will be more damaged than if he plays next season and the team goes 8-8.

The bizarre drama of this offer, now going into its second week, is taking some of the luster off Hall of Fame festivities, where old, aching warriors, with knee and hip replacements, welcome new members into the fold.

None of them have ever seen a spectacle like this: a player of Favre’s stature being told he is not wanted by the franchise he piloted to glory.

Willie Lanier, the Hall of Fame middle linebacker, said he was flabbergasted.

“There has not been anybody with that kind of high profile who’s played that many games, been small-town America, had all the records, has not been injured and ended up one game away from a Super Bowl,” Lanier said Friday by telephone.

“You’d think that would cause someone to say, ‘Boy, if we got that close, maybe if the stars align right, who knows?’ ”

During the last few weeks, the national news media have conjectured about the best new home for Favre. Oddly, considering his stature, there really hasn’t been a fit. The reason is that Green Bay is the only fit for Favre — and not as the Packers’ house boy. Green Bay is home, not Tampa Bay or New York or Carolina. Favre’s home is in Green Bay, and everyone, including Aaron Rodgers, the Packers’ new quarterback, knows it. In fact, if he is the leader the Packers think he is, Rodgers should prevail upon management to let Favre come back home.

The hopeful assumption is that Goodell will collar Green Bay executives this weekend in Canton, Ohio, persuade them to let go of ego and do what’s best for the game: admit their mistake and welcome Favre back to training camp with open arms. And pull Rodgers aside, extend his contract and ask him to let the franchise buy a little more time.

The N.F.L. released a statement explaining why it has taken so long to act on the Favre reinstatement letter:

“The Packers and Brett Favre are continuing their discussions. The commissioner preferred to let those discussions continue rather than act on the reinstatement petition today.”

There have been ferocious debates about Favre that in many ways go beyond football. In a fragile economic climate in which jobs are being lost, there is a poignancy in watching someone who has given so much not be allowed a change of heart about retirement. Sports should accommodate this sort of change of heart.

But the Green Bay Packers have threatened, and they have ignored. Now the club is pleading: Please, Brett. Pretty please. The Packers are willing to pay him to be the invisible man. They don’t want Favre in Minnesota, and they don’t want him in Chicago. They want Favre to be part of the Packers brand.

Packers Coach Mike McCarthy said the personal-services contract was offered when Favre retired in March and was not a last-ditch attempt to pay him to stay away from training camp. Sounds like hush money.

Favre has insisted all along that this is not about money, but about a mixture of honor and glory and the love of the game.

You can’t fault Favre if he takes the money, but hopefully he will tell Thompson and Murphy to keep their millions. He wants to play football.

On Hall of Fame weekend, the Packers want to turn Brett Favre into a $20 million greeter.

The league is bigger, if not better, than this.

[Harlan Huckleby]

that he will be traded only for a king’s ransom. .

A flat-out lie. FAvre is not being trade to Tampa or Jets because Favre refuses to talk to the teams.

how can you believe that this article will be any more than dishonest spin after this fib?

[HarveyWallbangers]

that he will be traded only for a king’s ransom. .

A flat-out lie. FAvre is not being trade to Tampa or Jets because Favre refuses to talk to the teams.

how can you believe that this article will be any more than dishonest spin after this?

Which goes back to my point about the national sports media. Most of them don't have the time to know the intricate details. But it doesn't keep them from giving their opinion. A lot of people hear that opinion. Then, you have a bunch of people that are uniformed about the situation.

Bretsky stated in another thread that JSO is mostly pro-Packers on this. I've noticed the national writers are mostly pro-Favre on this. There's no question that those JSO writers know more about this situation than most of the national writers.

Anyways! That was my rant. I hate when you read an article, and it only takes a few paragraphs before you realize they really don't know what they are talking about.

[packinpatland]

Wow.................

[MJZiggy]

that he will be traded only for a king’s ransom. .

A flat-out lie. FAvre is not being trade to Tampa or Jets because Favre refuses to talk to the teams.

how can you believe that this article will be any more than dishonest spin after this?

Which goes back to my point again about the national sports media. Most of them don't have the time to know the intricate details.

No, I think this is actually a case of the dude writing what he WANTS to believe. He acknowledged that the $20 mil was offered in March, yet still called it hush money and that it would disgrace Favre's image to take it.

[packinpatland]

I'm with TB........there has to be something more than what appears.
In the history of the Packers, they have never retired a jersey so soon after a player announced retirement (not even Reggie's), and why the 'removal of the locker'. Maybe I'm just skeptical of management.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bretsky stated in another thread that JSO is mostly pro-Packers on this. I've noticed the national writers are mostly pro-Favre on this. There's no question that those JSO writers know more about this situation than most of the national writers.

And BTW, its not just JSO. The Madison writers (WSJ, Crap Times) have been mostly against Favre, and they traditionally snipe at Packer management. (They kiss the butts of the Badger coaches because that is where their bread is buttered.)

If you watch Mike Lucas's "Sidelines" TV show, which has a rotating cast of sports media from Madison & Milwaukee every week, those people have been very cynical about Favre.

Part of it is that the local sports media guys have followed the story closer than national media. But also, they have seen FAvre in action in recent years, and understand the personalities involved.

[Freak Out]

that he will be traded only for a king’s ransom. .

A flat-out lie. FAvre is not being trade to Tampa or Jets because Favre refuses to talk to the teams.

how can you believe that this article will be any more than dishonest spin after this fib?

Chill mange boy...
I just posted a write up I saw on the Times and you post it like it was my opinion....I thought this might be a good thread for sportswriters gab considering that's kinda how it started.

[Harlan Huckleby]

both you and PackinPatland are complaining because your names showed up in quotes from articles you posted.

I haven't mastered the technology of using quotes, i'm innocent. A victim, really.

[Freak Out]

both you and PackinPatland are complaining because your names showed up in quotes from articles you posted.

I haven't mastered the technology of using quotes, i'm innocent. A victim, really.

No worries....I just wanted a reason to call you Mange boy.