15501 petition signatures and counting @ savebrett.com

[Gunakor]

15k people petition, and not one of them have any say so in the matter. There are only 2 people whose opinions matter, and I can guarantee thier names are not on that petition. What does this site hope to do with this petition other than drive a wedge even further between once unified Packer fans?

The organization has made a decision. It won't be changed whether it's 15 thousand people for 15 million. So stop wasting your time. Either strap yourselves in for the ride or jump off the bandwagon.

[cpk1994]

15k people petition, and not one of them have any say so in the matter. There are only 2 people whose opinions matter, and I can guarantee thier names are not on that petition. What does this site hope to do with this petition other than drive a wedge even further between once unified Packer fans?

The organization has made a decision. It won't be changed whether it's 15 thousand people for 15 million. So stop wasting your time. Either strap yourselves in for the ride or jump off the bandwagon.

Amen! ONline petition are the most rediculous thing ever started on the internet. For all the idiots here that think signing an online petition works, how did the Patriots fans online petition to Roger Goodell demanding to review the last 1:44 of the Super Bowl work out?

[The Leaper]

I agree with the majority.

Online petitions are stupid. The Packers have made their choice people.

[falco]

falco's bad

[packrat]

Where is the Trade Him to the Vikings petition? So 15,000 out of 15 million fans want him back? I'm not impressed. 15,000 isn't even a quarter of those who show up for the games, let alone all the television fans.

[cpk1994]

Where is the Trade Him to the Vikings petition? So 15,000 out of 15 million fans want him back? I'm not impressed. 15,000 isn't even a quarter of those who show up for the games, let alone all the television fans.

Alaso, if you read the comments from some of the signees, there are a good number of people who signed this petition to mock the petition and Favre.

[GBRulz]

So 15,000 out of 15 million fans want him back? I'm not impressed. 15,000 isn't even a quarter of those who show up for the games, let alone all the television fans.

Let's be realistic here. How many people have actually even heard of savebrett.net? And of that amount, how many think online petitions are a waste of time anyhow?

I know I didn't even know about this until I saw this thread.

[Zool]

I tell you what...its really hard to sign an online petition like 600 times if I was really ambitious. Lets round down to 500 times. Wouldnt take very long to get to 15k at that rate now would it.

[ahaha]

I'm just saying I've seen a lot of online petitions and I've signed a few and not a single one of them has made any sort of difference in the world whatsoever. People who are in charge of things don't go out looking for these things and in case they stumble upon them, the petitions and the like are ignored. People in charge of organizations and the like have a little thing called "leadership" and leadership frequently involves ignoring what "popular opinion" is in favor of one's own convictions as to what's the right thing to do.

There has never been a television show saved by an online petition, a coach has never been fired because of an online petition, a personnel move has never been made because of an online petition, and an important person's opinion has never been swayed by an online petition. There may be online petitions that run parallel to things that actually happened, but correlation is not causation and shows get brought back for reasons like "exceptional ratings in reruns" and people get fired for things like "incompetence that is obvious to his or her bosses".

Online petitions are entirely and completely meaningless for reasons that include:

1) There is no actual verification that a real person has actually signed his or her actual name in favor or against something. I could go sign that petition 200 times if I really felt the need to. I guarantee there are not 15,000 unique people who have "signed" that petition because it's laughably easy for one person to sign it as many times a he or she wishes.

2) Online petitions are not actually representative of what a cross section of people think. Only vocal minorities are inclined to seek out such things, and there's no clear alternative for people who disagree to support an alternative. In order for a sampling of the population to actually have a statistically meaningful indication of a trend or an idea, those people sampled must be chosen at random and they cannot be self-chosen. Self-reporting is nearly always inaccurate, as numerous studies have shown. The only people who seek out such things are the people on the extremes and most people are not on the extremes (by definition).

3) Due to the degree of anonymity the internet allows, it's trivially easy for important people to ignore any number of opinions on the internet. If real people had legitimately passionate opinions they would let them be known in ways other than grinding one's own gears on the internet. You can't ignore a letter sent certified mail, and it's hard to ignore a personal phone call. But it's easy to ignore an e-mail, and how easy do you think it is to ignore a website?


Basically what I'm saying is that no matter how you feel on this situation, no matter how much you support Favre or whatever, you're wasting your time doing this. It's not going to affect anything at all and it's going to cost you a little bit of time you could spend doing something productive with your life.

If you really want to get the attention of Mark Murphy here, don't even bother with the online petition. Write a letter explaining what you think, sign your name to it, take it to the post office, pay $4 or whatever to send it certified mail to Mark Murphy (or whoever) and then it will get read. If you're not willing to write a personal letter, drive the post office, and spend $4 to mail it then you certainly lack the conviction necessary to get anybody who has made a decision in an official capacity to change his or her mine. Those are just the facts.

This petition will not have any attention paid to it by anybody whose has the ability to affect what happens in any meaningful way.

This is the only online petition (on anything whatsoever) I will support. I don't know if it's worth my time to sign it, however.

The TV show Jericho got brought back by an online petition....great show BTW, don't/can't do a bunch of examples, but know of many more......Who cares, show some passion, or get trampled by the regime. Hate to see your type in Nazi Germany in WWII or everyone would have been killed instead of most. Show some colors, JC, or just tread the water everyone else does..

So you would have sacraficed yourself and your family in order to show your displeasure with deportation of jews. Easy to say that now without fear of the SS knocking on your door.