A QUESTION TO SOLICIT HONEST AND STRAIGHT FOWARD ANSWERS...

[Gunakor]

but u dont think #4 desreves another shot with this squad considering shermans nonsense???

I think Favre had his shot last year. Also, while I am grateful for the his play for the last 16 years... I'm not really interested in what Favre may or may not "deserve."

He had his time, he played well, but now the management has determined that it is in the best interest of the team to move on. My loyalty is to the Packers, not Brett, so if the Packers benefit by Favre not getting what he deserves... I'm okay with that.

OK then....move on............release him!

The Packers own 3 years of his service yet. If they release him they get nothing in return for those years of service. Just because Favre doesn't fit into the team's plans for the future doesn't mean his contract is worthless. Even Favre's good buddy Mooch agrees with this one. PIP, this isn't about giving Favre what Favre wants. It's about Green Bay getting what Green Bay wants. It's about the team, not the player.

[bbbffl66]

OK then....move on............release him!

Like I said before, I'm not really interested in what Favre may or may not deserve. Releasing him would be against the best interest of the Packers, so it's really a non-option.

One of the reasons the 49ers were sucsessful for as long as they were was the way they took care of their players. Even when they traded Joe, it was to a playoff ready team The players wanted to play for DeBartolo because of the classiness(indictments not included ) of the organization. I believe a lot of players around the league are watching this right now. If the Packers act to "punish" Brett or say screw him he can rot, that will have a negative effect in player perception of Green Bay. Not that TT signs FA anyway, but Green Bay runs the risk of turning back into the Siberia of the NFL.

[Gunakor]

but u dont think #4 desreves another shot with this squad considering shermans nonsense???

I think Favre had his shot last year. Also, while I am grateful for the his play for the last 16 years... I'm not really interested in what Favre may or may not "deserve."

He had his time, he played well, but now the management has determined that it is in the best interest of the team to move on. My loyalty is to the Packers, not Brett, so if the Packers benefit by Favre not getting what he deserves... I'm okay with that.

how long u been a fan?

i was actually a bears fan during sweetnesses era. tried to play like him...am i banned now?

I would hope your loyalties lie with the team you support, not it's players. Were you a Bears fan or a Payton fan? Are you a Packers fan or a Favre fan? I really want to know, not just from you but from a number of people, because many are suggesting the team screw itself over just so that one of it's former players can get his way. And that sickens me to know that supposed "Packer" fans could feel that way. No wonder our happy family has become so dysfunctional recently...

[Gunakor]

OK then....move on............release him!

Like I said before, I'm not really interested in what Favre may or may not deserve. Releasing him would be against the best interest of the Packers, so it's really a non-option.

One of the reasons the 49ers were sucsessful for as long as they were was the way they took care of their players. Even when they traded Joe, it was to a playoff ready team The players wanted to play for DeBartolo because of the classiness(indictments not included ) of the organization. I believe a lot of players around the league are watching this right now. If the Packers act to "punish" Brett or say screw him he can rot, that will have a negative effect in player perception of Green Bay. Not that TT signs FA anyway, but Green Bay runs the risk of turning back into the Siberia of the NFL.

TT tried to trade him to Tampa. Tampa is as playoff ready now as Kansas City was when Montana went there. I don't buy this arguement for one second.

This isn't about Favre wanting to go to a playoff ready team. It's about Favre wanting to stick it to Thompson and the Packers twice a year first, and making the playoffs second. I'm sure players are watching this one, but if they are really paying attention they'll see Favre is being an ass.

[boiga]

Hey, I never said that I wanted to screw the guy over. It's just that Favre's demands are unreasonable at this juncture. I'm all for trading the guy. He gets to play, we get a draft pick, everything works out.

But releasing Brett gives up something for nothing in return. That's not an option.

[MJZiggy]

but u dont think #4 desreves another shot with this squad considering shermans nonsense???

I think Favre had his shot last year. Also, while I am grateful for the his play for the last 16 years... I'm not really interested in what Favre may or may not "deserve."

He had his time, he played well, but now the management has determined that it is in the best interest of the team to move on. My loyalty is to the Packers, not Brett, so if the Packers benefit by Favre not getting what he deserves... I'm okay with that.

OK then....move on............release him!

He's a business asset. When you had your business going, if you had some pieces that were good but not your best and you decided not to use them, would you give them to your closest competition so they could use them to impress your clients?

[Gunakor]

If he makes up with TT and we work out a really nice trade to minnesota and he lines up under center for the vikes I can see no negative whatsoever.....thats what you meant right?

ok, so u're sayn that if he came back with hat in hand MAD apologetic asking for forgiveness TT should STILL say go to hades (err Minn)???

If he did everything you said, AND agreed to be the backup I would welcome him back. AND as long as he stayed true to that and was not a distraction I would be happy he was on my team. More than likely at some point this season Arod will miss a game with injury and I would be happy to have favre around to fill in. NOT as the starter for all the reasons Don cited above.

not to grill you but im curious about your ratiuonale. are u sayn that arod is better than #4 rt now so he should start or b/c favre left arod shoud start? is it to teach #4 a lesson or give team best chance to win?

straght forward question

It's neither. It's about committment. Rodgers was told he's the starter, he's prepared himself to be the starter, and the players around him have prepared themselves for him to be the starter. It's not about who's the better QB, and it's not about punishing Favre. It's about moving on, something we've committed ourselves to doing because Favre told us to. Twice.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Maxie,

I grew up as a boy idolizing Warren Spahn. You make some valid points about the pain of watching a former outstanding player not being able to accept his athletic mortality.

It was truly sad to see a great pitcher like Spahn embarrass himself on the field.

We must be the same age because I lived through it too. The sad part is that most of the posters here are young and don't have a clue what we're talking about. Those fans that are demonstrating and cheering for Favre to come back don't realize how disturbing it will be if he comes back and "embarrasses himself." I wonder if...no, I know these same fans won't be cheering if that happens.

[MJZiggy]

I think the crux of this problem is the fact that Brett isn't 100% committed to football. If he REALLY wanted to play he would've told Murphy no and asked Goodell to reinstate him so he can come to GB and force TT's hand. The fact that he is considering taking The Offer tells me he isn't sure what he wants to do and THAT is why TT and company have moved forward. It didn't help his cause when he went on TV and blasted the organization either.

didnt he BLAST tt?? tt aint my cousin so i dont feel sorry for him. some posters act like favre has acutally offended THEM

That's because some folk see TT as more a representative of the team than an individual, so when Favre blasts TT, it's like he's blasting the team. I don't necessarily think that TT is representative of the team, but some of the stuff he's renting couch space under that bus for is downright stupid. Hey, here's a thought. What if we just remove the bus. Anyone got any keys or know how to hotwire a bus?

[Iron Mike]

You're probably too young to remember the Milwaukee Braves' all-time great left-hander, Warren Spahn. In 1963 at the age of 42 Spahnnie had one of his best seasons with the Braves. He went 23-7 and went to the All-Star game.

Well, seeing how I was two at the time and can't remember the Kennedy Assassination, I'll state that you are right.

[digitaldean]

Re: A QUESTION TO SOLICIT HONEST AND STRAIGHT FOWARD ANSWERS

If they forgave each other, nothing is negative. That should be expected and the adult thing to do.

But forgiveness should not automatically equate to Favre starting. I could expand on the reasons why, but I assume that it would be taken as more "subjective banter".

[DonHutson]

The sad part is that most of the posters here are young and don't have a clue what we're talking about. Those fans that are demonstrating and cheering for Favre to come back don't realize how disturbing it will be if he comes back and "embarrasses himself."

Age is no excuse. I don't personally remember Warren Spahn, but I was there in person at the Bradley Center to watch Washington Wizard Michael Jordan get abused by Tim Thomas one day. That was ugly.

I've commented on this before. I was proud of Brett for retiring when he did and being one of the few like Jim Brown or Barry Sanders to leave us wanting more. I can't really blame him for turning into one of the 99.999% of the other players that are compelled to ride themselves into the ground. That's his right. But the Packers aren't obligated to oblige him if they have better options, so Favre should go put on his Wizards jersey in some other locker room.

[cpk1994]

Favre obviously has no respect for Thompson. His pining for Steve Mariucci suggests he doesn't have enough respect for McCarthy either, or else he just prefers to be babied rather than be held accountable.

Of course he prefers to be babied and allowed to do whatever he wants. This was first shown when he threatened to retire if Sherman was canned. It was also shown by his "Im not gonna change" comments when he was in the middle of throwing 29 INT's. Thats why he loved Sherman as a coach. Sherman let him do whatever he wanted and made all the excuses for him. McCarthy comes in, holds him accountable and now he can't handle it. He can't stand the fact that his coach no longer stands in his press conferences and says "Well, the ball slipped out of his hands", or "Well, he has a broken thumb", to explain away his INTS.