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  • Originally posted by BallHawk
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    How come BallHawk?
    1. I don't have faith that he can lead us to a Super Bowl. He can't get it done in the playoffs.

    2. This team wants to get, and is getting, younger. Having a QB just short of 40 is going against the direction Ted and Co. are trying to accomplish.

    3. Favre treated this organization like trash. I will never, no matter what happens, forgive him for that.

    4. Favre isn't coming back to help the team, he's coming back because HE wants to play the game. So why not go allow a trade to happen? He's got some mixed up feelings about the Pack.

    5. I believe Aaron gives us a better chance to win.

    That's about it.

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    • 1. I don't have faith that he can lead us to a Super Bowl. He can't get it done in the playoffs.
      You could say that about the entire team...since none of them showed up in that Giants game. That loss was hardly on Favre alone...the blame can be shared by every person in that locker room, players and coaches alike.

      2. This team wants to get, and is getting, younger. Having a QB just short of 40 is going against the direction Ted and Co. are trying to accomplish.
      I disagree. The team is not looking to get younger...they were the youngest team in the league last season, and looked like it in big games against Dallas, Chicago, and New York. This team doesn't need to gain more youth...it needs to gain more experience.

      3. Favre treated this organization like trash. I will never, no matter what happens, forgive him for that.
      You don't know the whole story any more than the rest of us. The truth is very likely somewhere between Favre's side and management's side. Favre has given every ounce of himself on and off the field for this organization for 15+ years. I think he has earned the chance to apologize and make it right.

      4. Favre isn't coming back to help the team, he's coming back because HE wants to play the game. So why not go allow a trade to happen? He's got some mixed up feelings about the Pack.
      Complete speculation. How the hell do you know Favre's motives? Favre wants to play because he feels he can still play at a high level and help the team. Maybe he didn't want to be traded because he wanted to play for the Packers. Thought of that?

      5. I believe Aaron gives us a better chance to win.
      Maybe. With a competition in camp, we'll see who the better QB is. I'm putting my money on Favre...because experience is a trump card when playing QB in the NFL.
      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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      • Originally posted by BallHawk
        Originally posted by Partial
        I think starting an inferior quarterback sends the wrong message. May the best man win, thats only fair. This isn't a support group. This is a football team. Check your feelings at the door.
        And Aaron is inferior how?
        We don't know that he is yet. We will soon enough (hopefully). He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior. We'll see soon enough.

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        • Originally posted by Partial
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          If there is a competition, I actually hope that they go with Brett if it's close. The only way I can see they go with Aaron is if he tears it up in the preseason and Brett comes in rusty. I don't think Aaron is the type that thinks he should be gifted it anyways.

          I still think the whole think sets a bad precedent. That Brett is bigger than the team. I've loved Brett, but I never thought he was bigger than the team. It seems like others disagree. You have McCarthy preaching to everybody how important the offseason work is to the team, and then Brett is going to get out of all of that (something he's made known he hates). I've always felt that your best players need to be your hardest workers and best leaders, and I'm not sure that's the case this year with #4. He worked hard last year. He worked harder to reach out to the younger guys. Greg Jennings article in ESPN the Magazine is a perfect example. He said that he barely talked to Brett his rookie year, and that Brett seemed aloof. He changed a bit last year. His leadership skills this offseason have been severely lacking. The fact he skipped minicamps and OTAs shows that he hasn't put in the same work that the other guys have.
          While its bad he wasn't at OTAs, how do you know he wasn't working at home? You don't need a personal trainer to work out. I'm sure he's in fine shape. I'm not worried about it.

          I think starting an inferior quarterback sends the wrong message. May the best man win, thats only fair. This isn't a support group. This is a football team. Check your feelings at the door.
          Cosign. The "woe is us" attitude is getting a pretty bizarre.
          Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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          • Originally posted by Partial
            He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
            What? You've got to be kidding, P.

            There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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            • Originally posted by gex
              Originally posted by cpk1994
              Originally posted by BallHawk
              As much as I love Favre, I don't want him on this team. Period. Not as a starter, not as a backup, not as anything that has a role on the field.

              Will I root for him if he magically becomes the starter? Of course.

              But I still wouldn't want him under center.
              I agree with not wanting him on this team no matter what.
              No kiddin'
              Hahahaha....

              No way, eh? Couldn't tell which way you were swingin' CPK. Or on the Favre situation either.
              Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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              • Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by BallHawk
                Originally posted by Partial
                I think starting an inferior quarterback sends the wrong message. May the best man win, thats only fair. This isn't a support group. This is a football team. Check your feelings at the door.
                And Aaron is inferior how?
                We don't know that he is yet. We will soon enough (hopefully). He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior. We'll see soon enough.
                What BS. THere was no competition.

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                • Originally posted by Rastak
                  Let me say this, I absolutely 100% thought the Packers should demand a Favre answer before free agency every one of those years. I said it before, I say so now. I also don't disagree with the Packers installing Rodgers as the starter. The only thing that blows my mind is the almost frantic attempts at keeping him out of camp. That's what is so damn strange to me. I really don't think he scewered the team. He obviously hates TT but he is always saying gracious things about the organization. I am not saying he should be declared the started but I don't get the unrelenting hate, thats all.
                  Nicely put. I agree.
                  I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                  • Originally posted by BallHawk
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
                    What? You've got to be kidding, P.

                    There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
                    I disagree. It may not have been a competition because it wasn't very close, but Favre has always had to perform to keep his job

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                    • Originally posted by Partial
                      Originally posted by BallHawk
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
                      What? You've got to be kidding, P.

                      There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
                      I disagree. It may not have been a competition because it wasn't very close, but Favre has always had to perform to keep his job
                      Again:

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                      • Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by BallHawk
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
                        What? You've got to be kidding, P.

                        There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
                        I disagree. It may not have been a competition because it wasn't very close, but Favre has always had to perform to keep his job
                        I'm not even going to try on this one.

                        You can't debate ignorance.
                        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                        • Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
                          What? You've got to be kidding, P.

                          There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
                          I disagree. It may not have been a competition because it wasn't very close, but Favre has always had to perform to keep his job
                          I'm not even going to try on this one.

                          You can't debate ignorance.
                          I don't understand how you can say that? They brought in a first round pick to compete with him and to be a quality backup. There is no denying we have had a quality backup the past two years. You have no proof to the contrary. I don't understand how you can say there wasn't a competition. These guys are competing for their jobs day in and day out because if they slack off the next guy is going to take it over.

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                          • Originally posted by Partial
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by Partial
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by Partial
                            He hasn't beaten Favre in the previous three years, which leads me to believe he is still inferior.
                            What? You've got to be kidding, P.

                            There hasn't been an open competition at QB for decades, Partial. Jesus.
                            I disagree. It may not have been a competition because it wasn't very close, but Favre has always had to perform to keep his job
                            I'm not even going to try on this one.

                            You can't debate ignorance.
                            I don't understand how you can say that? They brought in a first round pick to compete with him and to be a quality backup. There is no denying we have had a quality backup the past two years. You have no proof to the contrary. I don't understand how you can say there wasn't a competition. These guys are competing for their jobs day in and day out because if they slack off the next guy is going to take it over.

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                            • ok, whatever you say. You have nothing to say to the contrary. Besides, does it really matter? Favre was the starter and consistently played well. Just because it wasn't a heated competition does not mean they weren't evaluating and comparing the two... With that said, its futile because it doesn't really matter. I just don't care enough.

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                              • Originally posted by Partial
                                I don't understand how you can say that? They brought in a first round pick to compete with him and to be a quality backup. There is no denying we have had a quality backup the past two years. You have no proof to the contrary. I don't understand how you can say there wasn't a competition. These guys are competing for their jobs day in and day out because if they slack off the next guy is going to take it over.
                                Screw it, I'll bite.

                                1. Aaron was taken in the draft because Favre wouldn't commit for X number of years. We had to draft a successor to Favre and he fell in our lap. If Favre had said 'I'm playing 'til 08' it's likely Aaron isn't drafted.

                                2. There wasn't a competition. Do you think the Pack would bench a guy with 200+ consecutive starts, the man that won them a Super Bowl, for some new kid on the block.

                                You can't be this ignorant. There has never been a QB competition. Never.
                                "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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