Favre to compete for starting job

[cpk1994]

No, you have it right Mazzin. With this move Ted is saying that the Packers would rather keep Brett on the roster than give him up to the Vikes.

However, that's less relevant now that Favre has lost his veto power over trade talks. Now any team that wants to pay the Packers for him can obtain full rights over him whether he likes it or not. So, we no longer have any reason to try for a trade with the Vikings either.

If the Packers are in a nasty mood, Brett could be a Dolphin by tuesday.

I don't think any team will trade for Favre unless Favre says he is willing to go there. I can't imagine that at this point in his career he wants to go to what may be the worst team in the league.

That never stopped Tampa Bay from trading for Jake Plummer.

[Gunakor]

No, you have it right Mazzin. With this move Ted is saying that the Packers would rather keep Brett on the roster than give him up to the Vikes.

However, that's less relevant now that Favre has lost his veto power over trade talks. Now any team that wants to pay the Packers for him can obtain full rights over him whether he likes it or not. So, we no longer have any reason to try for a trade with the Vikings either.

If the Packers are in a nasty mood, Brett could be a Dolphin by tuesday.

I don't think any team will trade for Favre unless Favre says he is willing to go there. I can't imagine that at this point in his career he wants to go to what may be the worst team in the league.

That never stopped Tampa Bay from trading for Jake Plummer.

I think that GM's would learn from that mistake.

[cpk1994]

No, you have it right Mazzin. With this move Ted is saying that the Packers would rather keep Brett on the roster than give him up to the Vikes.

However, that's less relevant now that Favre has lost his veto power over trade talks. Now any team that wants to pay the Packers for him can obtain full rights over him whether he likes it or not. So, we no longer have any reason to try for a trade with the Vikings either.

If the Packers are in a nasty mood, Brett could be a Dolphin by tuesday.

I don't think any team will trade for Favre unless Favre says he is willing to go there. I can't imagine that at this point in his career he wants to go to what may be the worst team in the league.

That never stopped Tampa Bay from trading for Jake Plummer.

I think that GM's would learn from that mistake.

Well, this is a line of work that has Matt Millen as a employee, so I wouldn't take that to the bank.

[GrnBay007]

This is all part of the bigger, happy ending story...

Favre will return to the Packers and apologize for the distractions that were caused prior to the season. He will compete for the QB job and win it. He will go on to lead the Packers to a super bowl win and then will happily retire for good. Rodgers will go on to successfully lead the Pack.

TT/MM will look good because they allowed a competition.

Rodgers will look good because he didn't get bucky with Favre returning.

Favre will gain back the love from all the Favre haters by leading them to and winning the Super Bowl.

It's really quite simple.

[Merlin]

My take, assuming this is true (a disclaimer that has to be put on everything regarding this fiasco... I mean, scenario):

a) they have to accept him on to the roster since they will not release him

b) Favre is still not agreeing to a trade to the Jets, Buccs, or anywhere else Green Bay wants him to go

c) Packers still won't trade him to the Vikings

This means they're stuck with him (for now). I would assume McCarthy took the pulse of the locker room and he gets the feeling that the best move for team chemistry is an open competition. Presumably the players want the best man starting.

Presumably this means Thompson (and probably Murphy and McCarthy) are setting aside personal preference for the sake of locker room harmony. I still firmly believe that Favre rubs these guys the wrong way and they'd prefer to be rid of him, but they won't give him away for less than full value either. Whether this approach is spineless, realistic, or opportunistic is open to interpretation.

I would further assume (and we'll find out for sure tomorrow if this assumption is wrong) that Rodgers is still the starter until he loses the job. I don't see this as reneging any promise to Rodgers. The job was and is his to lose. If Rodgers had folded and Brohm stepped up, eventually Brohm would've been the starter. Same will be true with Favre. Any promise of a starting job should inherently come with the disclaimer that continued production is required to keep it.

The big questions: what happens if Rodgers and Favre play even in camp and the pre-season? If Favre loses this competition, will he take it like a man or raise a big stink?

If this is still Rodgers job to lose, I think it's entirely plausible that he'll play well enough to keep it.

I agree that it is Rodgers job to lose, however "Family Night" isn't going to show you anything new about Rodgers. From what I have been reading, he has been pretty average in camp and the other two QB's have been less then stellar. I wouldn't count Favre out yet, give him a week in camp and see if it helps Rodgers get better (which it has been my position that competition makes anyone better or weeds them out and Rodgers has never had any competition). I think that in and of itself will show what Rodgers is made of, simply handing him everything without having to compete or work for it is ridiculous.

[cpk1994]

This is all part of the bigger, happy ending story...

Favre will return to the Packers and apologize for the distractions that were caused prior to the season. He will compete for the QB job and win it. He will go on to lead the Packers to a super bowl win and then will happily retire for good. Rodgers will go on to successfully lead the Pack.

TT/MM will look good because they allowed a competition.

Rodgers will look good because he didn't get bucky with Favre returning.

Favre will gain back the love from all the Favre haters by leading them to and winning the Super Bowl.

It's really quite simple.

Guess again.

[Joemailman]

No, you have it right Mazzin. With this move Ted is saying that the Packers would rather keep Brett on the roster than give him up to the Vikes.

However, that's less relevant now that Favre has lost his veto power over trade talks. Now any team that wants to pay the Packers for him can obtain full rights over him whether he likes it or not. So, we no longer have any reason to try for a trade with the Vikings either.

If the Packers are in a nasty mood, Brett could be a Dolphin by tuesday.

I don't think any team will trade for Favre unless Favre says he is willing to go there. I can't imagine that at this point in his career he wants to go to what may be the worst team in the league.

That never stopped Tampa Bay from trading for Jake Plummer.

My recollection is that the Plummer situation didn't create quite the media frenzy that the Favre situation has.

[GrnBay007]

This is all part of the bigger, happy ending story...

Favre will return to the Packers and apologize for the distractions that were caused prior to the season. He will compete for the QB job and win it. He will go on to lead the Packers to a super bowl win and then will happily retire for good. Rodgers will go on to successfully lead the Pack.

TT/MM will look good because they allowed a competition.

Rodgers will look good because he didn't get bucky with Favre returning.

Favre will gain back the love from all the Favre haters by leading them to and winning the Super Bowl.

It's really quite simple.

Guess again.

OK then, he won't gain back your love, but 99.9% of all Packer fans. Have it your way....

[cpk1994]

No, you have it right Mazzin. With this move Ted is saying that the Packers would rather keep Brett on the roster than give him up to the Vikes.

However, that's less relevant now that Favre has lost his veto power over trade talks. Now any team that wants to pay the Packers for him can obtain full rights over him whether he likes it or not. So, we no longer have any reason to try for a trade with the Vikings either.

If the Packers are in a nasty mood, Brett could be a Dolphin by tuesday.

I don't think any team will trade for Favre unless Favre says he is willing to go there. I can't imagine that at this point in his career he wants to go to what may be the worst team in the league.

That never stopped Tampa Bay from trading for Jake Plummer.

My recollection is that the Plummer situation didn't create quite the media frenzy that the Favre situation has.

But the scenario is the same. Plummer threatened to retire if he was traded to Tampa Bay. Tampa went throuigh with it anyway. Plummer retired. That was my point.

[Sparkey]

Maybe....just maybe

They made Favre jump through all these "hoops" to see how dedicated he really is about wanting to play ?

It will be interesting to see what his conditioning is like.

[rbaloha1]

I think the best scenario is for Favre to be the starter, with the stated backing of Aaron Rodgers. Give Rodgers a contract extension which will assure him the pay of a starting QB.

Agreed. Except BF could keep pulling this retirement/unretirement stunt for years.

IMO while AR has "value" trade him for a DT and a draft pick.

Ultimately Packers Management should have allowed Bus Cook to find a trade partner prior to the draft. Maybe we could have swapped pics (ie Matt Hasselbeck) and/or accumulated picks.

The Packers management miscalculated keeping BF retired. Now we must face the unfortunate miscalculation.

[RashanGary]

I think Rodgers is going to win the competition.

[cpk1994]

I think the best scenario is for Favre to be the starter, with the stated backing of Aaron Rodgers. Give Rodgers a contract extension which will assure him the pay of a starting QB.

Agreed. Except BF could keep pulling this retirement/unretirement stunt for years.

IMO while AR has "value" trade him for a DT and a draft pick.

Ultimately Packers Management should have allowed Bus Cook to find a trade partner prior to the draft. Maybe we could have swapped pics (ie Matt Hasselbeck) and/or accumulated picks.

The Packers management miscalculated keeping BF retired. Now we must face the unfortunate miscalculation.

Problem is Bus and Faver only want to deal with the Vikings. Trading him their would be a miscalulation that would be enough to land TT in the unemployment line.

[MJZiggy]

I think the best scenario is for Favre to be the starter, with the stated backing of Aaron Rodgers. Give Rodgers a contract extension which will assure him the pay of a starting QB.

The problem with this scenario is that Rodgers has already said that if Favre comes back, he will ask for a trade. If he will be looking for a trade before this contract is up, you cannot assume he will want an extension because the likelihood is that he will tell them where to stuff their extension and if they won't trade him, he'll be gone in free agency.

[cpk1994]

I think the best scenario is for Favre to be the starter, with the stated backing of Aaron Rodgers. Give Rodgers a contract extension which will assure him the pay of a starting QB.

The problem with this scenario is that Rodgers has already said that if Favre comes back, he will ask for a trade. If he will be looking for a trade before this contract is up, you cannot assume he will want an extension because the likelihood is that he will tell them where to stuff their extension and if they won't trade him, he'll be gone in free agency.

You have a link or quote for that?