McCarthy to "Get things off his chest" in meeting

[sharpe1027]

The only way Favre loses the PR war is if he fails his physical or stinks up the joint after winning the starting role and gives M3 the pleasure of benching him. That can still happen, but the organization has definitely lost this phase of the battle.

I don't see how benching him is a win for the organization. This isn't a win for one side if Favre plays and a win for the other side if he doesn't. If Favre does well and starts, it is a win for both sides. If Favre struggles, it is a loss for both sides.

[Pacopete4]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

[The Leaper]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.

[Gunakor]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.

Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

[Gunakor]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.

Very true. Abandoning the run in a clutch playoff game is akin to throwing in the towel. Especially in sub zero degree weather.

[Patler]

I would like to hear that conversation. There have been several comments (nothing direct) from MM and from others with the Packers that make believe MM is extremely fed up with how Favre handled this off-season.

I think some of the comments have been fairly direct. His most recent public comment, something about "even now" there's some waffling or uncertainty, reads to me like a man who is p-i-s-s-e-d off. I think he's going to rake Favre over the coals - if Favre can't give a straight "Hell yes I'm committed, extra film work and practice and the whole shebang" answer, then I think Favre will be flying to Minneapolis in a couple of days.

Would not surprise me in the least.

[Patler]

Dude, you're cracking me up over here.

I am not sure why M3 is still wasting time with the silly posturing when he knows damn well that everybody in America has heard about last night's clunker by A-Rod. They've already lost the PR war, so why keep fighting it? I like Woody's comments after the scrimmage, having only been with the team for two years he's still about to keep an objective perspective about the whole thing.

Put things about last night into perspective. He was 8-20 with an INT, which isn't very good at all. Not all of his incompletions were on target, of that you can be sure. But at least 4 or 5 of his incompletions were drops by the WR's. I saw him it Ruve in the hands twice, one Ruve dropped and the other Pat Lee made a great play on to knock it out of Ruve's hands. I saw Driver uncharacteristically drop one too. I'm not saying even those passes were perfect, but a rule of football is if you are a WR and the ball hits you in the hands you HAVE to catch it. If the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch it that is your fault, not teh QB's. So A-Rod could have easily been 12-20 or 13-20, which isn't spectacular but isn't horrible either. Assuming those drops would have happened even if it were #4 throwing the ball, what's the difference??

...and the interception was on the "last play of the half" in their two-minute drill simulation. They said the clock had run out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

Are you talking about Favre or McCarthy...because the comment applies to both equally IMO. Favre threw a bad INT, and McCarthy and his crew got horrifically outcoached.

Very true. Abandoning the run in a clutch playoff game is akin to throwing in the towel. Especially in sub zero degree weather.

I can agree with that. McCarthy has some proving to do--just like Favre.

[HowardRoark]

BF: What's a Rubicon?
MM: (Blank stare) Hell if I know.
BF: (Blank stare) Can I have one?
MM: (Blank stare)

[SnakeLH2006]

BF: What's a Rubicon?
MM: (Blank stare) Hell if I know.
BF: (Blank stare) Can I have one?
MM: (Blank stare)

BF: I'll give Aaron a hug for a Rubicon.
MM: (Awkward Silence)
BF: (Confused Look, Looks at New Text Messages on Phone from Ed Werder)
MM: (Gets Hologram Projection on Monitor from TT in Dark Jedi Robe...Puts Head in Hands and Sighs)
BF: (Looks Nervously at Monitor then Back at Phone) Hey Mike, Ed texted me that Deanna wants to know if I'll be home for supper tonight?

[SnakeLH2006]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

In all seriousness though, I'm thinking the onus is on Arod, not Favre, Arod looked shaky last night and a little pissy in his post-interview last night (as would have I in his shoes) but the worst is over for Favre after his meeting (Christ he had legions tracking his Cessna last night, then had a helicopter following his Escalade to his house last night, with a police escort). Yea, he brought it on himself, yet he obviously wants to play to go through all this shit, and I don't think he's felt he's had to prove anything for years. Perhaps (I doubt it) he has an ever better year this year as I'm sure he needed/needs a wake up call from McCarthy at tonight's meeting. Just my 10 cents, and I hope for the best for AR and Brett, yet this is definitely in Favre's favor as now he just gets to play football.

[Pacopete4]

You better hope your boy plays really well this year, and doesn't lay another playoff stinker.

haha, oh ya.. shouldn't you be hoping for that too, "packer fan"?

Of course, I do. But all of that pressure that was going to be on Rodgers is on Favre now, and it's going to be twice as bad. I just hope he's up to it emotionally. I was quite concerned after watching him talk about what a toll it took on him last year.

In all seriousness though, I'm thinking the onus is on Arod, not Favre, Arod looked shaky last night and a little pissy in his post-interview last night (as would have I in his shoes) but the worst is over for Favre after his meeting (Christ he had legions tracking his Cessna last night, then had a helicopter following his Escalade to his house last night, with a police escort). Yea, he brought it on himself, yet he obviously wants to play to go through all this shit, and I don't think he's felt he's had to prove anything for years. Perhaps (I doubt it) he has an ever better year this year as I'm sure he needed/needs a wake up call from McCarthy at tonight's meeting. Just my 10 cents, and I hope for the best for AR and Brett, yet this is definitely in Favre's favor as now he just gets to play football.

I semi agree... but if Favre is truly back it is for the right reasons and that is he will give us blood, sweat, and tears that he's been giving us for 16 years now.. he'll bust his ass and hopefully in Feb we'll have something to show for it

[HarveyWallbangers]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.

[Pacopete4]

So, the Favre backers won't even admit that Favre has a ton of pressure on him this year? What do you think the backlash will be if he has a bad season? I think it will be strong because a lot of people will know that he didn't put in the necessary work this offseason to give himself the best chance to succeed.

If he's the starting QB for the Packers, I'll be hoping he does well though. I hope I'm wrong that he might struggle.

Harv, I think youre feeling of him having a bad season is due to the situation we're in because I dont think if he retired you'd even have a bad thought about it and you'd probably be jacked up for the season... the man is full of talent and it'll show.. like usual