Teammates 'moving forward' with Favre

[Packgator]

Where does the "ego" come from? Media speculation. Ask anyone to explain why they believe he has an ego and you get silence

I don't see it either. He only speaks to the press when he absolutely has to. When he does he says as little as possible. He rarely if ever talks about himself. These are not typical traits of a large ego. I see no signs of an over-inflated ego. In fact it is quite possible that he has a very small ego.

[cpk1994]

So if Favre had not retired... Rodgers would have zero complaint of backing up Favre again? but since Favre did, he now has the right to be bitter?... doesnt make sense... rodgers hasn't done squat in this league to be entitled to anything.. IMO there already shoulda been a competition, Rodgers vs Brohm vs Flynn

No doubt....WOW...anyone check out Sportcenter around 12:30 CST today, they did a 15 min. roundtable discussion with Marcellus Wiley and Mike Golic. Wow, did they toast Arod and TT. Here's a summary (don't flame me, it's their comments):

-TT has a massive ego, and they couldn't believe Murphy's comments about having to redo everything (Golic: It was 3 months, damn)
-Packers had a sub 40% winning % in 1972-1991 before Favre, then a 64% clip since 1992 when Favre took over (best in all the NFL)
-Based on talent, not politics, Favre would kill AR in a QB competition as they were saying that it is only phrased as such to appease Arod, but Favre will be the starting QB for sure.
-Both Wiley and Golic as NFL vets said it's sick that it came to this, but is totally a power trip from TT, but regardless as vets they say the players will want Favre to win as they know he's the far superior talent.
-Lots more stuff, maybe they replay it all day as normal, but hellaciously entertaining. I was laughing my ass off.

I don't give a flying fuck what players/former players have to say about this. PLAYERS ARE NOT GM'S. They should keep thier fucking mouths shut.

TT played for quite awhile in this league....

So should we just name Brett Favre our new GM because he played for quite awhile in this league also?

That'd be fine by me... as long as TT gets the fuck outta town

My guess is he'd run this team like his buddy Mike Sherman. He'd be as undisciplined a GM as he is a player. Welcome to Siberia again Paco. Enjoy the 80's.

I think TT is already driving that bus now.

Your kidding right? Ted Thompson does things the way he should. The problem with a head coach being the GM is they only see next year. The HC deals with now, the GM deals with next year, which is exactly what Ted does. his job, for the most part, this year is done until cuts come up. he's concerned with the future. If you think Ted Thompson is doing a bad job, you TRULY do not know anything about the NFL or how it should be ran. amazing how quickly we forget that probably 98% of the team that went 13-3 last year, was picked by Thompson. DAMN, what a shit job he is doing.

If TT was really thinking about the future, Favre should be gone.

[ND72]

Where does the "ego" come from? Media speculation. Ask anyone to explain why they believe he has an ego and you get silence

I don't see it either. He only speaks to the press when he absolutely has to. When he does he says as little as possible. He rarely if ever talks about himself. These are not typical traits of a large ego. I see no signs of an over-inflated ego. In fact it is quite possible that he has a very small ego.

ESPN doesn't like him because he doesn't give any clues or anything to them, especially draft time.

[sharpe1027]

Sharpe, I'm a firm believer that TT does not want Favre around.. he thinks he can get "his" own player to get the job done for him and win a superbowl and this was a perfect way to get favre outta here and let Arod play.. now that Favre wants back in, even though Favre is the better player, he is reluctant to do so because of his ego....

So why did he have no problems bringing Favre back both before and after he retired? What basis does MM have to supporting this position? I can't imagine that the coach wasn't on board with this decision.

You have every right to believe what you do, but I refuse to jump to conclusions about TT without facts that support it. I would not appreciate someone doing that to myself, would you?

[HarveyWallbangers]

the GM of the 4-12 team was TT wasn't it?

It's really hard to take you seriously sometimes. Favre deservedly gets his share of the credit. He's been a great QB, but he had more to do with that 4-12 record than Ted Thompson did. Thompson inherited an old team in salary cap hell and couldn't rebuild Rome in a day. That year just proved that even Favre needs a good team around him to do well. Thompson has put a good team around him, and the rebuilding process took a lot less time than a lot of people thought it would.

[Gunakor]

I think Sherman won 3 nfc north titles didnt he?.. not to shabby, and not saying I like him either but you cant rip the guy too badly

the GM of the 4-12 team was TT wasn't it?



and I agree... this team is headed back to Siberia the moment Favre is gone from GB forever..

4-12 was SHERMAN'S fault. Open your eyes Paco. 4-12 came because Thompson's first duty was to get rid of Shermans talented yet way overpaid players and get this team back into salary health. That's business, and a GM is responsible for finances as well as wins and losses. So he had to rebuild. When you have to rebuild, 4-12 is going to happen. Don't assume that Green Bay is the only team that had to go through it. However, Green Bay IS in fact one of the few teams that could go from 4-12 to 13-3 and hosting the NFC Championship game in just 2 seasons. Give credit where credit is due.

The GM who went 4-12 a few seasons ago as a rookie GM won Executive of the Year last year. Voted on by his peers. That speaks volumes to his ability to build and run a successful football team. No Siberia as long as TT is running the show.

[cpk1994]

the GM of the 4-12 team was TT wasn't it?

It's really hard to take you seriously sometimes. Favre deservedly gets his share of the credit. He's been a great QB, but he had more to do with that 4-12 record than Ted Thompson did. Thompson inherited an old team in salary cap hell and couldn't rebuild Rome in a day. That year just proved that even Favre needs a good team around him to do well. Thompson has put a good team around him, and the rebuilding process took a lot less time than a lot of people thought it would.

And now TT has undone that in one swift stroke.

[ND72]

So if Favre had not retired... Rodgers would have zero complaint of backing up Favre again? but since Favre did, he now has the right to be bitter?... doesnt make sense... rodgers hasn't done squat in this league to be entitled to anything.. IMO there already shoulda been a competition, Rodgers vs Brohm vs Flynn

No doubt....WOW...anyone check out Sportcenter around 12:30 CST today, they did a 15 min. roundtable discussion with Marcellus Wiley and Mike Golic. Wow, did they toast Arod and TT. Here's a summary (don't flame me, it's their comments):

-TT has a massive ego, and they couldn't believe Murphy's comments about having to redo everything (Golic: It was 3 months, damn)
-Packers had a sub 40% winning % in 1972-1991 before Favre, then a 64% clip since 1992 when Favre took over (best in all the NFL)
-Based on talent, not politics, Favre would kill AR in a QB competition as they were saying that it is only phrased as such to appease Arod, but Favre will be the starting QB for sure.
-Both Wiley and Golic as NFL vets said it's sick that it came to this, but is totally a power trip from TT, but regardless as vets they say the players will want Favre to win as they know he's the far superior talent.
-Lots more stuff, maybe they replay it all day as normal, but hellaciously entertaining. I was laughing my ass off.

I don't give a flying fuck what players/former players have to say about this. PLAYERS ARE NOT GM'S. They should keep thier fucking mouths shut.

TT played for quite awhile in this league....

So should we just name Brett Favre our new GM because he played for quite awhile in this league also?

That'd be fine by me... as long as TT gets the fuck outta town

My guess is he'd run this team like his buddy Mike Sherman. He'd be as undisciplined a GM as he is a player. Welcome to Siberia again Paco. Enjoy the 80's.

I think TT is already driving that bus now.

Your kidding right? Ted Thompson does things the way he should. The problem with a head coach being the GM is they only see next year. The HC deals with now, the GM deals with next year, which is exactly what Ted does. his job, for the most part, this year is done until cuts come up. he's concerned with the future. If you think Ted Thompson is doing a bad job, you TRULY do not know anything about the NFL or how it should be ran. amazing how quickly we forget that probably 98% of the team that went 13-3 last year, was picked by Thompson. DAMN, what a shit job he is doing.

If TT was really thinking about the future, Favre should be gone.

now it's Thompson's fault he's back?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Can we learn how to edit our quotes?

[Patler]

There isn't a single player on the team who wouldn't be sent to the second team if a better player came along. If he gets beat out on performance, Rodgers has no gripe just because in April/May/June he was "the guy".

Heck, Harrell was listed as a starter before training camp last summer. Does that mean he was entitled to keep it regardless?

[HarveyWallbangers]

And now TT has undone that in one swift stroke.

I won't go that far. Bad precedent, but he was between a rock and a hard place.

[Gunakor]

So if Favre had not retired... Rodgers would have zero complaint of backing up Favre again? but since Favre did, he now has the right to be bitter?... doesnt make sense... rodgers hasn't done squat in this league to be entitled to anything.. IMO there already shoulda been a competition, Rodgers vs Brohm vs Flynn

No doubt....WOW...anyone check out Sportcenter around 12:30 CST today, they did a 15 min. roundtable discussion with Marcellus Wiley and Mike Golic. Wow, did they toast Arod and TT. Here's a summary (don't flame me, it's their comments):

-TT has a massive ego, and they couldn't believe Murphy's comments about having to redo everything (Golic: It was 3 months, damn)
-Packers had a sub 40% winning % in 1972-1991 before Favre, then a 64% clip since 1992 when Favre took over (best in all the NFL)
-Based on talent, not politics, Favre would kill AR in a QB competition as they were saying that it is only phrased as such to appease Arod, but Favre will be the starting QB for sure.
-Both Wiley and Golic as NFL vets said it's sick that it came to this, but is totally a power trip from TT, but regardless as vets they say the players will want Favre to win as they know he's the far superior talent.
-Lots more stuff, maybe they replay it all day as normal, but hellaciously entertaining. I was laughing my ass off.

I don't give a flying fuck what players/former players have to say about this. PLAYERS ARE NOT GM'S. They should keep thier fucking mouths shut.

TT played for quite awhile in this league....

So should we just name Brett Favre our new GM because he played for quite awhile in this league also?

That'd be fine by me... as long as TT gets the fuck outta town

My guess is he'd run this team like his buddy Mike Sherman. He'd be as undisciplined a GM as he is a player. Welcome to Siberia again Paco. Enjoy the 80's.

I think TT is already driving that bus now.

Your kidding right? Ted Thompson does things the way he should. The problem with a head coach being the GM is they only see next year. The HC deals with now, the GM deals with next year, which is exactly what Ted does. his job, for the most part, this year is done until cuts come up. he's concerned with the future. If you think Ted Thompson is doing a bad job, you TRULY do not know anything about the NFL or how it should be ran. amazing how quickly we forget that probably 98% of the team that went 13-3 last year, was picked by Thompson. DAMN, what a shit job he is doing.

If TT was really thinking about the future, Favre should be gone.

Favre is UNDER CONTRACT. That means TT has no control over it. What is he supposed to do, just release him so he can go play for the Vikings? Cmon now. Favre does less harm to Green Bay as a Packer than he does as a Viking. Since he is UNDER CONTRACT that means TT can't just tell him no. He is legally and contractually obligated to welcome him back if he wants to. That's what a contract is. TT can't just tear it up without releasing him to play for an archrival, which Favre has made crystal clear he'd do if released. Favre as a Viking is worse for Green Bay than Favre as a Packer. Are you really going to dispute this?

[ND72]

the GM of the 4-12 team was TT wasn't it?

It's really hard to take you seriously sometimes. Favre deservedly gets his share of the credit. He's been a great QB, but he had more to do with that 4-12 record than Ted Thompson did. Thompson inherited an old team in salary cap hell and couldn't rebuild Rome in a day. That year just proved that even Favre needs a good team around him to do well. Thompson has put a good team around him, and the rebuilding process took a lot less time than a lot of people thought it would.

And now TT has undone that in one swift stroke.

This is almost comical. first off...I love how people still bring up "well ted was the GM of hte 4-12 team. If that's the case that we want to play, Brett Favre WAS the quarterback that threw 29 interceptions. I mean if we're playing the blame game, lets really play it. Truth is, 4-12 was Sherman's fault.

Now...."TT has undone that in one swift stroke."....what in the HELL are you talking about?

[cpk1994]

[quote:ae21f49664="Pacopete4"]So if Favre had not retired... Rodgers would have zero complaint of backing up Favre again? but since Favre did, he now has the right to be bitter?... doesnt make sense... rodgers hasn't done squat in this league to be entitled to anything.. IMO there already shoulda been a competition, Rodgers vs Brohm vs Flynn

No doubt....WOW...anyone check out Sportcenter around 12:30 CST today, they did a 15 min. roundtable discussion with Marcellus Wiley and Mike Golic. Wow, did they toast Arod and TT. Here's a summary (don't flame me, it's their comments):

-TT has a massive ego, and they couldn't believe Murphy's comments about having to redo everything (Golic: It was 3 months, damn)
-Packers had a sub 40% winning % in 1972-1991 before Favre, then a 64% clip since 1992 when Favre took over (best in all the NFL)
-Based on talent, not politics, Favre would kill AR in a QB competition as they were saying that it is only phrased as such to appease Arod, but Favre will be the starting QB for sure.
-Both Wiley and Golic as NFL vets said it's sick that it came to this, but is totally a power trip from TT, but regardless as vets they say the players will want Favre to win as they know he's the far superior talent.
-Lots more stuff, maybe they replay it all day as normal, but hellaciously entertaining. I was laughing my ass off.

I don't give a flying fuck what players/former players have to say about this. PLAYERS ARE NOT GM'S. They should keep thier fucking mouths shut.

TT played for quite awhile in this league....

So should we just name Brett Favre our new GM because he played for quite awhile in this league also?

That'd be fine by me... as long as TT gets the fuck outta town

My guess is he'd run this team like his buddy Mike Sherman. He'd be as undisciplined a GM as he is a player. Welcome to Siberia again Paco. Enjoy the 80's.

I think TT is already driving that bus now.

Your kidding right? Ted Thompson does things the way he should. The problem with a head coach being the GM is they only see next year. The HC deals with now, the GM deals with next year, which is exactly what Ted does. his job, for the most part, this year is done until cuts come up. he's concerned with the future. If you think Ted Thompson is doing a bad job, you TRULY do not know anything about the NFL or how it should be ran. amazing how quickly we forget that probably 98% of the team that went 13-3 last year, was picked by Thompson. DAMN, what a shit job he is doing.

If TT was really thinking about the future, Favre should be gone.

now it's Thompson's fault he's back?[/quote:ae21f49664]No Thomspon never should have let Favre back in. They made a committment and now shown that committment to be BS. Now Rodgers will be gone and instead of having a ready Qb you will have rookies or some washed up journeyman. Thompson needs to grow a pair, stand up to the commitment he and M3 made and release Favre now.

[cpk1994]

the GM of the 4-12 team was TT wasn't it?

It's really hard to take you seriously sometimes. Favre deservedly gets his share of the credit. He's been a great QB, but he had more to do with that 4-12 record than Ted Thompson did. Thompson inherited an old team in salary cap hell and couldn't rebuild Rome in a day. That year just proved that even Favre needs a good team around him to do well. Thompson has put a good team around him, and the rebuilding process took a lot less time than a lot of people thought it would.

And now TT has undone that in one swift stroke.

This is almost comical. first off...I love how people still bring up "well ted was the GM of hte 4-12 team. If that's the case that we want to play, Brett Favre WAS the quarterback that threw 29 interceptions. I mean if we're playing the blame game, lets really play it. Truth is, 4-12 was Sherman's fault.

Now...."TT has undone that in one swift stroke."....what in the HELL are you talking about?

ITs called by letting Favre back in you have cost the team Rodhers which menas you have even less proven ability at QB after Favre. HE has set the team back at least 3 years with this idiotic decision.