WHY are they against a QB competition??

[boiga]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

[cpk1994]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

You got it. McCarthy wants to lose his job just to stick it to Favre.

[Chevelle2]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

You got it. McCarthy wants to lose his job just to stick it to Favre.

Thats what I heard too.

[Packers4Glory]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

so AR makes this a better team?

[Chevelle2]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

so AR makes this a better team?

How do you know he doesnt? You think you more than MM?

[cpk1994]

guess putting the best team out there isn't the goal this yr.

Exactly. McCarthy is trying his darndest to make this team lose. Ted's been coveting that 1st overall draft pick since he got here and decided now would be the best time to crash and burn.

I wonder if Murphy is in on this oh so obvious sabotage?

so AR makes this a better team?

Sarcasm flys right over your head, doesn't it?

[Gunakor]

Ok, I'll try to explain the problem with Favre going to Minnesota again, seeing as how last time most thought my explaination was very well worded and easily understood. So follow along carefully.

Ted Thompson is the GM of the Green Bay Packers. The Minnesota Vikings are a fierce rival of ours, a team whose success or failure greatly impacts the Packers chances of winning the division and reaching the playoffs. Are we in agreement so far? Good. On we go.

Whether a Brett Favre led Vikings team can or cannot beat an Aaron Rodgers led Packers team is irrelevant. What this is about - and ALL this is about - is that a Brett Favre led Vikings team is better than a Tavaris Jackson led Vikings team. And a better Vikings team is not good for Green Bay. Period.

Even if the Rodgers led Packers team splits the series with the Favre led Vikings team, the Vikings are in a better position to beat a whole lot of teams not called the Green Bay Packers. And those games matter too, because as I mentioned earlier, they play in the same division as the Packers. Even if the Packers won BOTH of those games, there are still 14 other games that matter. If Green Bay finishes 7-7 in those games while Minnesota finishes 10-4, then the Vikings win the division even though they lost both games to the Packers.

As a GM you do not, for any reason, under any circumstances, WHATSOEVER, make one of your fiercest rivals better. At all. Ever. For ANY reason. There are 28 other teams not in our division that I'd have no problems with him being traded to. The other 3 teams in the NFC North are and should be entirely out of the question, no matter what. Period.

I hope I've laid that out clearly enough that everyone can understand. There is a very good reason why TT is blocking any and all attempts by Favre to play for Minnesota, and if Favre had half a brain he'd understand what that reason is. Same goes for us Rats. If we truly support the Packers then we are in agreement that Favre in a Vikings uniform is not an acceptable outcome of this saga.

[HarveyWallbangers]

VAN SUSTEREN: What about competing for starting quarterback?

FAVRE: Why?

Let me compete, you'll know I'll win this job

I'll practice my butt off, if it comes to that, and I think we all know what the end result will be, but this probably isn't going to work.

The problem is that, at first, he thought it was beneath him to compete for it. Then, he changed his tune, but he was being kind of a dink about it. If for some reason, McCarthy chose Rodgers, he doesn't sound like somebody that would take it too well. Then, more distractions for the team.

[Packers4Glory]

i understand that logic of not trading him to MIN. I say it more in jest because I'd have no problems trading AR to Min. none whatsoever.

[cpk1994]

Ok, I'll try to explain the problem with Favre going to Minnesota again, seeing as how last time most thought my explaination was very well worded and easily understood. So follow along carefully.

Ted Thompson is the GM of the Green Bay Packers. The Minnesota Vikings are a fierce rival of ours, a team whose success or failure greatly impacts the Packers chances of winning the division and reaching the playoffs. Are we in agreement so far? Good. On we go.

Whether a Brett Favre led Vikings team can or cannot beat an Aaron Rodgers led Packers team is irrelevant. What this is about - and ALL this is about - is that a Brett Favre led Vikings team is better than a Tavaris Jackson led Vikings team. And a better Vikings team is not good for Green Bay. Period.

Even if the Rodgers led Packers team splits the series with the Favre led Vikings team, the Vikings are in a better position to beat a whole lot of teams not called the Green Bay Packers. And those games matter too, because as I mentioned earlier, they play in the same division as the Packers. Even if the Packers won BOTH of those games, there are still 14 other games that matter. If Green Bay finishes 7-7 in those games while Minnesota finishes 10-4, then the Vikings win the division even though they lost both games to the Packers.

As a GM you do not, for any reason, under any circumstances, WHATSOEVER, make one of your fiercest rivals better. At all. Ever. For ANY reason. There are 28 other teams not in our division that I'd have no problems with him being traded to. The other 3 teams in the NFC North are and should be entirely out of the question, no matter what. Period.

I hope I've laid that out clearly enough that everyone can understand. There is a very good reason why TT is blocking any and all attempts by Favre to play for Minnesota, and if Favre had half a brain he'd understand what that reason is. Same goes for us Rats. If we truly support the Packers then we are in agreement that Favre in a Vikings uniform is not an acceptable outcome of this saga.

Carefull the Favre sycophants will come at you with the pitchforks.
Seriously, I wish they would trade him to Minnesota just to get this over with, but agree with you and totally understand why TT does not.

[Gunakor]

i understand that logic of not trading him to MIN. I say it more in jest because I'd have no problems trading AR to Min. none whatsoever.

I'd have a problem with AR being traded anywhere. He's the guy who is ready to take over for Favre, not Brohm. And 2 more years of Favre isn't going to make Brohm any more prepared, because as the 3rd string QB he's not going to develop a whole lot. Then Favre retires the same year that Rodgers' contract is up, and Rodgers leaves because the Packers have not honored thier committment to him to let him play. Now we are stuck with a 3rd string QB as our starter. Fuck that, trade Favre before you trade Rodgers.

[boiga]

so AR makes this a better team?

In my opinion, yes.

No matter what happened, we would have to transition on to a post-favre era eventually. If this transition is poorly handled, we could be stuck in a situation where we are throwing a rookie QB to the wolves backed up by a lousy team. That is what happened to the Dolphins and Ravens this last year, and it doesn't end well.

So, the Packer management tried to plan for this transition. They groomed Aaron for the past three years and when Brett retired, they handed him the reigns. Rodgers is a young, improving quarterback with the potential to by our franchise guy. The team is strong enough this year to support his growing pains without giving us a losing season. The transition looks healthy.

To give back the starting position to a declining Brett Favre could give us a debatable better shot this season, but odds are that we would lose Rodgers in the process. That sacrifices all the planning that had been made to this point and leaves us at great risk should Favre seriously decline or waffle himself into retirement soon.

So, in my opinion Rodgers gives us a decent shot at success in the short term and MUCH BETTER chance of success in the long term than we would have relying on the less than decisive Favre for the near future.

[Packers4Glory]

never have been impressed w/ AR. Brohm will be the guy in a couple yrs anyway.

[Chevelle2]

never have been impressed w/ AR. Brohm will be the guy in a couple yrs anyway.

Andy you know this, how? What has Brohm shown you that Rodgers hasn't?

[Packers4Glory]

so AR makes this a better team?

In my opinion, yes.

No matter what happened, we would have to transition on to a post-favre era eventually. If this transition is poorly handled, we could be stuck in a situation where we are throwing a rookie QB to the wolves backed up by a lousy team. That is what happened to the Dolphins and Ravens this last year, and it doesn't end well.

So, the Packer management tried to plan for this transition. They groomed Aaron for the past three years and when Brett retired, they handed him the reigns. Rodgers is a young, improving quarterback with the potential to by our franchise guy. The team is strong enough this year to support his growing pains without giving us a losing season. The transition looks healthy.

To give back the starting position to a declining Brett Favre could give us a debatable better shot this season, but odds are that we would lose Rodgers in the process. That sacrifices all the planning that had been made to this point and leaves us at great risk should Favre seriously decline or waffle himself into retirement soon.

So, in my opinion Rodgers gives us a decent shot at success in the short term and MUCH BETTER chance of success in the long term than we would have relying on the less than decisive Favre for the near future.

The Packers are not in a position to be like Mia or Balt. we have a very young roster w/ a lot of guys locked up. the supporting cast will be younger and more talented than anything mia or balt tossed out there. If we make sure we have a solid O-line we could get by a yr of growing pains by a younger QB such as Brohm. Who i think has more potential long term anyway.