WHY are they against a QB competition??

[Gunakor]

never have been impressed w/ AR. Brohm will be the guy in a couple yrs anyway.

Not if he's 3rd string for the next couple years. 3rd string QB's do not get nearly enough practice reps to develop into starting caliber QB's. The only way Brohm could be ready in a couple years is if he's the second string QB, and the only way he is the second string QB is if both Favre and Rodgers are not ahead of him. With Rodgers, you know he'll be here next year. With Favre, you have no clue what he's going to do. Even if you want Brohm as the eventual successor to Favre, you STILL want Favre gone this year.

[Packers4Glory]

never have been impressed w/ AR. Brohm will be the guy in a couple yrs anyway.

Andy you know this, how? What has Brohm shown you that Rodgers hasn't?

opinion. Do i need to specifically state i wasn't looking at a crystal ball or taking the Delorean for a spin?

I just think the pressure of replacing Favre was already a huge weight. Now add this on top of it and it makes it for a nearly impossible situation for AR to have a successful career in GB. He is going to have to play at an extremely high level to make fans forget about this fiasco of running a legend out of town.

[Packers4Glory]

never have been impressed w/ AR. Brohm will be the guy in a couple yrs anyway.

Not if he's 3rd string for the next couple years. 3rd string QB's do not get nearly enough practice reps to develop into starting caliber QB's. The only way Brohm could be ready in a couple years is if he's the second string QB, and the only way he is the second string QB is if both Favre and Rodgers are not ahead of him. With Rodgers, you know he'll be here next year. With Favre, you have no clue what he's going to do. Even if you want Brohm as the eventual successor to Favre, you STILL want Favre gone this year.

plenty of future QB's have been 3rd stringers. He'll get the drills w/ the QB coach. He'll get plenty of time learning how to study films and learning the play book. thats the important stuff for new guys transitioning from NCAA to NFL.

[HarveyWallbangers]

opinion. Do i need to specifically state i wasn't looking at a crystal ball or taking the Delorean for a spin?

It's all just our opinion. It's okay to think Brohm will be the shit. My opinion is that Favre would struggle to repeat last year.

[Lurker64]

I think the issue is that while neither Favre nor McCarthy are against an open competition, McCarthy is adamant that Rodgers get the majority of reps in training camp because "preparing Rodgers for the season" is a priority. If we look at "minimizing bad" instead of "maximizing good" McCarthy's perspective makes sense. If there were an open competition either Favre or Rodgers would win, and the "most bad" scenario is if Rodgers wins but has his preseason reps cut into by the whole Favre thing (which is a distinct possibility.) If Favre wins the competition, it doesn't really matter how many reps he got, but if Rodgers starts week 1 we want him to get as many reps as possible.

So provided there is a QB competition, if Favre loses, he will actually be making this team worse because he has denied Rodgers reps that Rodgers needs.

I also believe that since McCarthy and Thompson both got extensions recently, they have reason to believe that "winning as many games possible over the next 2, 3, 4, 5 years" is more important than "winning as many games as possible". We have the nucleus and coach to put together a team that wins this division and is competitive in the NFC for years, provided nothing screws it up.

[boiga]

The Packers are not in a position to be like Mia or Balt. we have a very young roster w/ a lot of guys locked up. the supporting cast will be younger and more talented than anything mia or balt tossed out there. If we make sure we have a solid O-line we could get by a yr of growing pains by a younger QB such as Brohm. Who i think has more potential long term anyway.

That's exactly it, we're not there right now. But all it would take is a decline in some of our starters and 2 injuries to put us right there with them.

Now's the chance to move on successfully. We don't know if this window of opportunity will be there next year.

I just think the pressure of replacing Favre was already a huge weight. Now add this on top of it and it makes it for a nearly impossible situation for AR to have a successful career in GB. He is going to have to play at an extremely high level to make fans forget about this fiasco of running a legend out of town.

The weight of replacing Favre would have been enormous no matter what. The recent developments don't make it any worse.

If Rodgers can repeat what he did in Dallas sometime in the first three games, I think he'll be good. You're right, however, that his window of opportunity will be a small one.

[texaspackerbacker]

So the never-ending saga of As The Favre Turns continues.

Sunday evening, it looked bad--from the point of view of those of us who agree with Thompson/McCarthy that the team is better off with Rodgers at QB. Now, it has swung back, to a great extent, to a big no way for Favre starting.

It seems to me that Favre--or at least Favre's people--seem to keep moving back the goalposts. He wanted to come to camp; He wanted "open competition"; Now, that's not good enough because he presumes--as do a lot of us--that the "competition" would be a foregone conclusion in favor of Rodgers.

Brett is saying the right things; Rodgers deserves to start at this point, and true competiton would be distracting and disruptive regarding preparation of the team for the season. However, I think the bottom line for him is that he doesn't want to be a backup in Green Bay.

That's unfortunate, because that's probably the only decent compromise that could have been had. There is no way the Packers trade him within the division; There is no incentive other than money for them to release him--and they have demonstrated that money doesn't mean that much to them; And it seems doubtful that Brett will agree to a trade to somewhere the Packers would agree to.

So we still don't know how it will end, but unlike Sunday, it looks very unlikely he will take Rodgers's job.

[pack4to84]

Here is my take. I will use some examples for you guys. First off your the coach of a High School Football team. Your best player is trying to run the team he thinks he the coach. You call a play and send it in. Your QB who is the best player changes the play. He calls his number. Runs for a TD. You scolded him on the sideline he points to the score board. Next time you get the ball you send in a play he changes it, another TD. If your team is going to follow you as coach you have to bench him or you will lose your whole team.
I believe that last year Favre luck ran out on change what MM called and it cost the Packers a chance at the Super Bowl. MM wasn't happy with Favre when he changed the play that ended in an INT setting up the winning field goal. Now Favre is trying to run this team again even after missing all the OTA's. If you where a coach and a player missed every practice would he start for your team? NO and he would ride the bench with no chance of being the QB. I think Brohm would be number 2 QB even if Farve was on the roster.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The Packers stance is that they are not against an open competition, they just don't want one in this instance because it isn't good for the team.

Favre isn't against an open competition either.

Despite the fact both sides are open to an open competition, there won't be one.

No wonder they were talking for 5 hours last night.

It sounds like this is all about the best way to salvage the egos of M3 and A-Rod's than it is about what's best for the team. Do people really think Favre couldn't win that competition outright? I'm not really pleased with the idea M3 is using the rest of the team as an excuse for his unwillingness to have an open competition and risk A-Rod losing.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Here is my take. I will use some examples for you guys. First off your the coach of a High School Football team. Your best player is trying to run the team he thinks he the coach. You call a play and send it in. Your QB who is the best player changes the play. He calls his number. Runs for a TD. You scolded him on the sideline he points to the score board. Next time you get the ball you send in a play he changes it, another TD. If your team is going to follow you as coach you have to bench him or you will lose your whole team.

This probably the worst analogy I've ever heard. The star QB is changing the play and scoring TD's and he should be benched? Aren't those called "audibles?"

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Here is my take. I will use some examples for you guys. First off your the coach of a High School Football team. Your best player is trying to run the team he thinks he the coach. You call a play and send it in. Your QB who is the best player changes the play. He calls his number. Runs for a TD. You scolded him on the sideline he points to the score board. Next time you get the ball you send in a play he changes it, another TD. If your team is going to follow you as coach you have to bench him or you will lose your whole team.

This probably the worst analogy I've ever heard. The star QB is changing the play and scoring TD's and he should be benched? Aren't those called "audibles?"

No, an audible is at the line...not changing a play.