Growing Respect For McCarthy

[Gunakor]

I listened. Saying there might be a competition if Favre gets his mind right is just like saying Woody will act sane is he gets on his medcation. Woody still aint sane and Favre still isn't getting a competition.

Speaking of, wheres he been. Also wheres M today. Are there clock towers near the Packers HQ? Someone should make a sweep.

Woody Im sure is waiting for his assigned time at his Mental institution's computer.

Ooo, is he gonna be mad!
I predict at least 3,000 angry outburst posts over the next few days.

Oh no, and I might even be able to understand one of them too, right?

[pbmax]

Funny that you mention that (possibly intentional too) as that is the jist of Fleischer's approach. 84 ways to say them same thing no matter how the question is phrased or whether it actually answers the question.

Steel being forged in a crucible.

You want Ari's job don't you?

[pbmax]

I was also impressed by McCarthy. He has come a long way with the press since first getting entangled with Al Harris' OTA participation.

I also got the sense that McCarthy, more than Favre or Thompson at times, seems to be the one with the clearest sense of what he wants out of this. Might be the benefit of his position, but it gives him a sense of authority on this topic.

I wonder how ESPN will spin this so it looks like the Packers are still preventing Favre from competing for a starting spot, now that M3 said they never even came back to that initial question, what is your mindset if you come to practice this week?

[The Shadow]

I listened. Saying there might be a competition if Favre gets his mind right is just like saying Woody will act sane is he gets on his medcation. Woody still aint sane and Favre still isn't getting a competition.

Speaking of, wheres he been. Also wheres M today. Are there clock towers near the Packers HQ? Someone should make a sweep.

Woody Im sure is waiting for his assigned time at his Mental institution's computer.

Ooo, is he gonna be mad!
I predict at least 3,000 angry outburst posts over the next few days.

you and cpk and a couple others must be tipping the champaign and eating caviar

No. The feeling is more similar to when the Mike McKenzie and Javon Walker situations were resolved.
Relief.

[motife]

(Has Brett played his last game as a Green Bay Packer?)
....that's where we concluded in our conversation, that basically he was not in the right mindset to play here because of all of the things that went on. That's where we left it and I went to practice.

(When you say not in the right mindset, does he have animosity toward the franchise?)
....Those are the words that were used when we concluded.

(So competing was an option on the table?)
That was something that we would have talked about if he would have got to the right mindset. He's a football player, OK? I'm not doing the PR thing anymore. I'm coaching the football team. The football team has moved forward, OK? The train has left the station, whatever analogy you want. He needs to jump on the train and let's go, or if we can't get past all of the things that have happened, I need to keep the train moving, and he respects that.

(Did you feel that the meeting turned into discussing all of the events and hashing out feelings?)
That's what it turned into. That was not my intent when I started the meeting. My whole intent was, 'was he coming into the locker room to play for the Green Bay Packers, and where is your mind at?' That was the first question I asked him, and we could never get back to that point where he was comfortable.

(Given the way he feels, are you better served to move on without him?)
Well, given his mindset, why would I let anybody of a negative mindset in our locker room?


(Fans want to know why he isn't the starter for the Green Bay Packers?)
That's a great question. I think you need to ask Brett....The path to get to where we are has done some damage. That's where he is.

(We will ask him, but from your standpoint, why isn't he the starter?)
My direction has never changed. I have answered the question. I have prepared Aaron Rodgers to be the starting quarterback since he retired.....I didn't get the answers to the questions that I was looking for to open that competition up, so why would I do that to my football team? That would be poor leadership. It's not a popularity contest. I wasn't going to go there.

(Is his mindset not right for playing here or playing period?)
I would just say here in Green Bay. He wants to play. I told him that through the whole process, I did not think he was going to play this year. Just listening to all the conversation, the number of things that have happened between March all the way to this point, and that was one of the things, I said prove me wrong. Tell me I'm wrong, that you're playing for all the right reasons.,,,, I thought his decision to play was emotional. He told me that was not the case, and I respect that. I told him over and over again, I would like to be wrong, but I never thought through this whole process that he was going to play this year, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

(Can he still change your mind?)
I don't think so.

[motife]

(What makes you so sure Aaron will get the job done?)
You just have to believe in a number of things. Number one, I think he's prepared himself for this opportunity. I think he has the tools, physically, mentally, emotionally. I mean, you talk about what he's been challenged with emotionally of late, this is great (training). Who's had better training to play in the National Football league than Aaron Rodgers, and I think he's handled it well. Is he still a first-year quarterback? He's going to have some bumps in the road, I'm not naïve to that. But once again, we need to focus on playing better defense, playing better special teams, and playing offense the way we need to play to score points, and that will never change. I believe in Aaron because he's very talented, but he has prepared himself for this situation. He's had the opportunity to study behind a legend for three years. I think he's taken full advantage of it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Favre really is suffering emotionally and I feel bad about that. Going through retirement and all this rejection probably has him overwhelmed.

A fresh start in Tampa could be a great thing. Rooming with Chuckie.

[The Shadow]

I think Favre really is suffering emotionally and I feel bad about that. Going through retirement and all this rejection probably has him overwhelmed.

A fresh start in Tampa could be a great thing. Rooming with Chuckie.

Agree.

[Chevelle2]

I think Favre really is suffering emotionally and I feel bad about that. Going through retirement and all this rejection probably has him overwhelmed.

A fresh start in Tampa could be a great thing. Rooming with Chuckie.

Agree, and I think if his father were still around, this wouldn't have happened. Hell I don't even think he would have retired at all.

Rest In Peace, Irv.

[gex]

I think Favre really is suffering emotionally and I feel bad about that. Going through retirement and all this rejection probably has him overwhelmed.

A fresh start in Tampa could be a great thing. Rooming with Chuckie.

Agree also

[RashanGary]

I think the reason McCArthy sounded like the authority here is because he is the one who made the decision and every time Ted talks he knows that this is a big contraversy and he'd rather look like an asshole then come right out and say "Mike did it". He looks like an asshole because he says ntohing but MM is the one who seems to be driving this whole decision and now that he really spoke on it I think it helped a lot.

Brett just wasn't committed to this team and the Packers (McCarthy) are not in a place where they're willing to accept players who don't really want to be there. That's my opinion anyway. It was just a tough decision. I hope Brett can move forward and enjoy his season and retirement thereafter.

[The Shadow]

Grace under pressure.
Some demonstrate it on the playing field only - nice.
Watching McCarthy demonstrate it in life - pricelss.

[Fritz]

I have to apologize for everything I accused McCarthy of being. That was evrything I believed about him. He really stood tall today. He proved me wrong and I rhank him for that. I won't question his backbone again.

You were quite the Favrian Drama queen with all the railing on MM

Sure, but McCarthy is proving to being a man of his word and laying down the law. Rodgers is the starter and its time to go forward. And Im excited about that.

Actually if you listened to it all MM hinted that if Fave was ready to come in and be a Packer there might be an open competitions but said Favre was not committed enough or ready to be there.

That would have sent you flying through the roof again

You should actually thank Brett Favre for wanting to move on and not being ready to commit to a comeback with GB

This point was made a few times by McCarthy: Favre is not in the right mindset. I interpret that to mean Favre feels rejected and unappreciated by the organization, and he's so pissed he can't imagine sitting down and doing the grunt work required to make himself - and more importantly the team - look good.

I appreciate that Favre was honest about this with MM. It's hard to want to put in extra time if you feel like the boss doesn't appreciate you (in this case, "boss" would be TT).

As for the original topic of the thread, I too am impressed - very impressed - by MM. He seems to have taken control and at the same time seems to be gracious about Favre's sore spot. He seemed respectful of Favre without giving up ground on his position as head coach. I am breathing a sigh of relief.

[The Shadow]

I have to apologize for everything I accused McCarthy of being. That was evrything I believed about him. He really stood tall today. He proved me wrong and I rhank him for that. I won't question his backbone again.

You were quite the Favrian Drama queen with all the railing on MM

Sure, but McCarthy is proving to being a man of his word and laying down the law. Rodgers is the starter and its time to go forward. And Im excited about that.

Actually if you listened to it all MM hinted that if Fave was ready to come in and be a Packer there might be an open competitions but said Favre was not committed enough or ready to be there.

That would have sent you flying through the roof again

You should actually thank Brett Favre for wanting to move on and not being ready to commit to a comeback with GB

This point was made a few times by McCarthy: Favre is not in the right mindset. I interpret that to mean Favre feels rejected and unappreciated by the organization, and he's so pissed he can't imagine sitting down and doing the grunt work required to make himself - and more importantly the team - look good.

I appreciate that Favre was honest about this with MM. It's hard to want to put in extra time if you feel like the boss doesn't appreciate you (in this case, "boss" would be TT).

As for the original topic of the thread, I too am impressed - very impressed - by MM. He seems to have taken control and at the same time seems to be gracious about Favre's sore spot. He seemed respectful of Favre without giving up ground on his position as head coach. I am breathing a sigh of relief.

It's a good feeling to know that the Packer administration is both strong and sharp.

[Bretsky]

I have to apologize for everything I accused McCarthy of being. That was evrything I believed about him. He really stood tall today. He proved me wrong and I rhank him for that. I won't question his backbone again.

You were quite the Favrian Drama queen with all the railing on MM

Sure, but McCarthy is proving to being a man of his word and laying down the law. Rodgers is the starter and its time to go forward. And Im excited about that.

Actually if you listened to it all MM hinted that if Fave was ready to come in and be a Packer there might be an open competitions but said Favre was not committed enough or ready to be there.

That would have sent you flying through the roof again

You should actually thank Brett Favre for wanting to move on and not being ready to commit to a comeback with GB

This point was made a few times by McCarthy: Favre is not in the right mindset. I interpret that to mean Favre feels rejected and unappreciated by the organization, and he's so pissed he can't imagine sitting down and doing the grunt work required to make himself - and more importantly the team - look good.

I appreciate that Favre was honest about this with MM. It's hard to want to put in extra time if you feel like the boss doesn't appreciate you (in this case, "boss" would be TT).

As for the original topic of the thread, I too am impressed - very impressed - by MM. He seems to have taken control and at the same time seems to be gracious about Favre's sore spot. He seemed respectful of Favre without giving up ground on his position as head coach. I am breathing a sigh of relief.

It's a good feeling to know that the Packer administration is both strong and sharp.

I believe we are talking about MM only