The Laughing Stock of the NFL

[Partial]

I really liked him in the "Monday Morning Quarterback" commercial.

That is a fond memory that no amount of irrational Favre-hatred can destroy.

QFT

Partial, you asked a lot of questions, but there's one I'd like you to answer for me. It's not my question--it came from 6 freaking hours of discussion. "Why should I allow negativity in my locker room?"

Zig zag,

because the negativity will explode to a much higher degree if Rodgers faulters. I don't see why there would be negativity if Favre came back - my thoughts are the vets would be jumping for joy and the youngens would fall in line.

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

[Zool]

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

That lump must have been HUGE after the playoff game against the Rams then.

More basketball paraphrasing:

"what are we talkin about? a scrimmage? a scimmage....please"

[MJZiggy]

I really liked him in the "Monday Morning Quarterback" commercial.

That is a fond memory that no amount of irrational Favre-hatred can destroy.

QFT

Partial, you asked a lot of questions, but there's one I'd like you to answer for me. It's not my question--it came from 6 freaking hours of discussion. "Why should I allow negativity in my locker room?"

Zig zag,

because the negativity will explode to a much higher degree if Rodgers faulters. I don't see why there would be negativity if Favre came back - my thoughts are the vets would be jumping for joy and the youngens would fall in line.

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

Because after talking to him for 6 fucking hours M3 couldn't get him to a place that was positive enough that a quarterback competition (which he hadn't ruled out until then) was a feasible answer. Favre is bitter and unhappy NOW-not possibly contingent on something else happening. Six hours Partial. The rest of the team is behind Rodgers come what may. I haven't heard a hint of a word that might suggest otherwise. Maybe the vets thought that the receivers should have held onto the ball better or that the o-line should have done a better job. Maybe the vets are thinking "holy shit--we have a helluva defense this year!" There's something to get excited about. Six hours and it was mutually decided he wouldn't play here. And "Favre's people" have said that M3's depiction of that conversation was accurate. So why are you still bitching?

[VegasPackFan]

Partial, you fail to realise that the team is behind Rodgers because he actually showed up all off-season, has been dedicated, and acted like a professional the 3 years he sat on the bench waiting for his chance.

If he falters, the team will stand behind him and will continue to fight to win games. And they just might succeed.

[Partial]

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

That lump must have been HUGE after the playoff game against the Rams then.

More basketball paraphrasing:

"what are we talkin about? a scrimmage? a scimmage....please"

I reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

[Sparkey]

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

That lump must have been HUGE after the playoff game against the Rams then.

More basketball paraphrasing:

"what are we talkin about? a scrimmage? a scimmage....please"

I reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

The game where three of Favre's picks were returned for touchdowns ?

[mission]

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

That lump must have been HUGE after the playoff game against the Rams then.

More basketball paraphrasing:

"what are we talkin about? a scrimmage? a scimmage....please"

I reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

The game where three of Favre's picks were returned for touchdowns ?

Yeah. That game.

[Partial]

You don't think after the scrimmage there was a big oh shit lump in the throat of a lot of the vets? I don't have a problem with Rodgers besides the fact he is soft and I think he is getting a raw deal himself, but MM and TT are bringing the negativity that currently exists on themselves by not letting two men duke it out and let the better man win.

That lump must have been HUGE after the playoff game against the Rams then.

More basketball paraphrasing:

"what are we talkin about? a scrimmage? a scimmage....please"

I reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

The game where three of Favre's picks were returned for touchdowns ?

How many times did this happen in 2005 when the Packers were simply outmatched? Hmmm, common theme that when they were outmatched big time Favre tried to make a play to keep them in the game. Funny, how that happens in the playoffs where the truly good, deep teams are! Shocking!

How many times did Favre do that last year? Favre showed last year that he had it all a long and his poor play at times was a result of his desire to make plays because someone had to or they would have lost anyway.

My god, you people act like Favre was average last year. Mark my words, you won't see another year of quarterbacking (read: by far and away the most important position on the field that determines single-handedly a good amount of the time whether the team wins or loses) for a long, long, long time, and you will not know what you had until its gone.

[Zool]

reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

But you're trying to predict the mind-set of a football team based on your obviously huge bias and no one can ever tell you you're wrong. So I just keep poking. It was a scrimmage a week into training camp.

[bobblehead]

WE'RE HAVING A WITCH HUNT FOR FAVRE FANS!

It's like McCarthyism all over again.

LordFavreism is what we'll call it.

Incidentally, if not even ironically we can still call it mccarthyism.....

[BallHawk]

WE'RE HAVING A WITCH HUNT FOR FAVRE FANS!

It's like McCarthyism all over again.

LordFavreism is what we'll call it.

Incidentally, if not even ironically we can still call it mccarthyism.....

Hey, you, with the Brett Fave avatar!

You'll be the first to burn....

[Partial]

reiterate again.. would we have been in the game against the rams if it wasn't for Brett Favre carrying our god awful team with one super duper wolverine-esque man?

I'm not going to defend the performance because that would be ridiculous, but how many quarterbacks can take a good team and make them great? Not many. Favre showed last year what he can do with some weapons. Clearly, as a man of faith, I believe the Giants were a team of destiny. Otherwise you go ahead and explain to me all the balogna that happened and all the breaks they got against the pats. The helmet ball is a once in a million thing.. Does the team get to the playoffs against the rams or get to the championship game with a Matt Hasselback, Jon Kitna, Phil Rivers or even a Carson Palmer? I'm not so sure they do. That is a few of the second echelon of QBs in the NFL, and I don't think its realistic to project A-Rod to become as good as them, let alone better.

But you're trying to predict the mind-set of a football team based on your obviously huge bias and no one can ever tell you you're wrong. So I just keep poking. It was a scrimmage a week into training camp.

No one here is biased. I have no beef with Rodgers besides him being a girly man cake boy. If he wins games, I'm cool with him. I'm upset with the treatment of a legend, and think its foolish and a step backwards to keep playing for tomorrow.

[VegasPackFan]

I think the only thing that I am ashamed of is these jagoffs booing Rodgers. That is simply disgusting to me, and those people should follow BF to Tampa or wherever where they can continue to show their "loyalty".

[Partial]

Booing Rodgers is dumb, but at the same time TT isn't on the field so they cannot boo him. I doubt anyone truly has ill-will towards Rodgers outside of him being a cakeboy.

[BallHawk]

I have no beef with Rodgers besides him being a girly man cake boy.

Um? What? Girly man cake boy? What is this supposed to mean? Or is just this another one of your names that you have come up with that you find clever and everybody else finds irritating?