The Laughing Stock of the NFL

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Re: The Laughing Stock of the NFL

I think Vince would have told Brett to get lost on June 20th.

Yeah, from what I know of Vince the only thing he might have done different than Thompson or McCarthy was "Trade him sooner, for anything he can get."

Vince would have told Brett to get lost on June 20 and traded him on June 21.

It's odd that Partial would have cited Vince in his invective since Vince Lombardi was a firm believer in two things:
1) No player is bigger than the team.
2) Get rid of a guy a year too early, never a year too late.

And thats what they should have done and none of this mess would be playing out, bad moves by management.

[Gunakor]

Partial is a Packers fan. He didn't come across as a huge Brett fan before this. I think this whole thing is a bit. I'm going to go back and dig up some dirt on him.

Don't confuse them. A Packers fan wouldn't jump ship just because #4 is not #1 anymore. Certainly everyone appeared to be a Packers fan before this episode. The Favre fiasco is what brought out everyone's true colors, and it is just now that we are beginning to see the difference. Those who are jumping ship now are not Packers fans, and never were. They probably only got on board when Favre showed up anyhow...

Thats bullshit.... just because we back a player thats been here longer and done more for us than any GM, Coach, Prez in that building has ever done, do not start thinking you can tell us who is and is not a packer fan....

Did I mention you specifically? I was talking about Partial... unless you too are jumping ship with the departure of #4, then I wasn't talking about you.

[Partial]

Brett Favre - Does any other quarterback have the ball slip out of his hands this much? As Steve Czaban joked this morning, even though Favre may be a little crazy in his head thinking coming back to the "most talented team he's been a part of" was a good idea, his hands think he is out of his fricking mind. Seriously though, I am really sick of seeing retarded fumbles like that get shown on sports center. That seems to happen to Favre more than any other player. Is it the thumb injury? Also, why the hell are you throwing a ball with no touch on it? When your receiver are 15 yards away you don't need to rifle it. I can count 3 first downs without reviewing any tape that were rocketed balls that weren't necessary that the player did not hold on to. It'll be popular to blame the receivers, but if you don't have guys that can hang onto the ball you need to adjust your game. Yuck.

Harv you've been posting like a real first rate jagoff lately. You know damn well that Favre is one of the best players to ever play, and the Packers have a very good chance at going to and winning the super bowl. Last year's cast was young, most of the core young guys will make HUGE advances this year. And you turn around and post this stupid bullshit? Give me a break man, you know you're doing it just to stir the pot.

Since we've been on these boards, I have had a big problem with playing for today when we had a shitty team and we weren't a top 5 team in the league. Now that we're there, I am frustrated as hell that we are sacrificing a chance at glory. It is so assbackwards it is incomprehensible. By the logic that has gone on this off-season, if Rodgers is lights out and a total dynamo and decides to skip the off-season and hold out next year, we'll move on again and be right where we started. I'm sick of playing for tomorrow when our team is good enough to win the big one today and tomorrow if handled correctly.

[Partial]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

[Gunakor]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

[Bretsky]

WE'RE HAVING A WITCH HUNT FOR FAVRE FANS!

It's like McCarthyism all over again.

LordFavreism is what we'll call it.

Jump on the Broom and come get me

I'd suggest a punishment of having to sit in a room with TT for 24 hours straight

[swede]

Uncle Partial, could you tell us another story?

Tell the one how some bad men made Brett Favre retire just before he was going to win his second Super Bowl.

[Pacopete4]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

I hope you realize they are playing the PR game Gunakor... the first sign of trouble this season and this team may very well fall apart if its Arod who's sucking

[The Shadow]

Partial is a Packers fan. He didn't come across as a huge Brett fan before this. I think this whole thing is a bit. I'm going to go back and dig up some dirt on him.

Don't confuse them. A Packers fan wouldn't jump ship just because #4 is not #1 anymore. Certainly everyone appeared to be a Packers fan before this episode. The Favre fiasco is what brought out everyone's true colors, and it is just now that we are beginning to see the difference. Those who are jumping ship now are not Packers fans, and never were. They probably only got on board when Favre showed up anyhow...

Thats bullshit.... just because we back a player thats been here longer and done more for us than any GM, Coach, Prez in that building has ever done, do not start thinking you can tell us who is and is not a packer fan....

Once upon a time, there was a man named Vince, who brought many championships to Green Bay......

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[quote="Gunakor"]

Partial is a Packers fan. He didn't come across as a huge Brett fan before this. I think this whole thing is a bit. I'm going to go back and dig up some dirt on him.

Don't confuse them. A Packers fan wouldn't jump ship just because #4 is not #1 anymore. Certainly everyone appeared to be a Packers fan before this episode. The Favre fiasco is what brought out everyone's true colors, and it is just now that we are beginning to see the difference. Those who are jumping ship now are not Packers fans, and never were. They probably only got on board when Favre showed up anyhow...

Did I mention you specifically? I was talking about Partial... unless you too are jumping ship with the departure of #4, then I wasn't talking about you.

Gunakor, YOU are not a true Packer Fan. Your classless.

[Partial]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

I hope he does. No one would be happier than me. This year is super bowl or bust for me. We have the talent, but why have a 16 year inexperienced driver who has been in two car wrecks with his temps drive the car when the professional stunt driver whos record is perfectly clean is sitting in the backsteat? Doesn't make any sense..

[Pacopete4]

Partial is a Packers fan. He didn't come across as a huge Brett fan before this. I think this whole thing is a bit. I'm going to go back and dig up some dirt on him.

Don't confuse them. A Packers fan wouldn't jump ship just because #4 is not #1 anymore. Certainly everyone appeared to be a Packers fan before this episode. The Favre fiasco is what brought out everyone's true colors, and it is just now that we are beginning to see the difference. Those who are jumping ship now are not Packers fans, and never were. They probably only got on board when Favre showed up anyhow...

Thats bullshit.... just because we back a player thats been here longer and done more for us than any GM, Coach, Prez in that building has ever done, do not start thinking you can tell us who is and is not a packer fan....

Once upon a time, there was a man named Vince, who brought many championships to Green Bay......

Ya and I would have backed him as well had he wanted to keep on coaching

[Gunakor]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

I hope you realize they are playing the PR game Gunakor... the first sign of trouble this season and this team may very well fall apart if its Arod who's sucking

Is that really a trait you see in DD and Al and Chuck? Chryst, they know as well as anybody that there will be some growing pains. They also know that they are now the leaders of this team, and will work as hard as Aaron to make sure that doesn't happen. Give the man a chance before you say things like that.

[Gunakor]

For what exactly? Being indecisive? Give me a break. We've only heard the Packers side of the story, and Brett claims they're lying. That to me says the truth lies in the grey. The packers are screwing him over royally. "You can come compete" "No you can't come and compete", "We moved on with the a whole new offense this off-season a first ballet hall of famer couldn't possibly pick it up" "Ryan Grant will be the starter when returning" blah blah blah.

I am so embarrassed to call myself a Packer fan these days. It's sickening. Everyone outside of Wisconsin thinks Favre is getting a raw deal, and rightfully so. This organization is supposed to be special and value commitment, dedication, loyalty, etc. Where is the payback for 16 years of blood, sweat and tears?!?

Where is the loyalty and commitment to the other veterans who weathered the bad to see the good? We have a chance to go to the super bowl with Favre. If he came back, it is super bowl or bust. Anything less would be an underachievement. Now, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs. I predict we don't.

I am physically ill over this treatment. What kind of clowns are running this show? Fuck.

Partial, you never were a Packer fan. You were and are a Favre fan. End of story. We will be very unfortunate to not make the playoffs. You make it sound like Favre went 13-3 all by himself. This is a good football team, with or without Favre. Open your eyes.

No, that is false. I am a packer fan. And thats why I am pissed Chad, Charles, Al, Don, etc will NEVER get a shot at the title because their dumbass boss' boss wanted to go with a first-year, injury-prone player instead of taking a shot at the title. I think its ridiculously rude, and I would be irate if I were one of those players. They should see if they can get traded with Brett and see how well they team does with all the youngens.

Boy oh boy, Partial, I cant wait for Aaron to prove you wrong. Besides, the veterans on this team have expressed supreme confidence in Aaron Rodgers. They truly believe they can win with him. They would have a better idea than you, wouldn't you say?

I hope he does. No one would be happier than me. This year is super bowl or bust for me. We have the talent, but why have a 16 year inexperienced driver who has been in two car wrecks with his temps drive the car when the professional stunt driver whos record is perfectly clean is sitting in the backsteat? Doesn't make any sense..

It's not super bowl or bust for me. It's simply playoffs or bust for me. You forget that Favre had spent 4 years as a starter before winning a Super Bowl. What, is Rodgers not afforded the same timeframe?

Besides, Favre's record isn't perfectly clean. He's been incredibly mistake prone in the playoffs over the last decade, so I don't think he gives this team as good a shot at a Super Bowl as you do.

[Partial]

Partial is a Packers fan. He didn't come across as a huge Brett fan before this. I think this whole thing is a bit. I'm going to go back and dig up some dirt on him.

Don't confuse them. A Packers fan wouldn't jump ship just because #4 is not #1 anymore. Certainly everyone appeared to be a Packers fan before this episode. The Favre fiasco is what brought out everyone's true colors, and it is just now that we are beginning to see the difference. Those who are jumping ship now are not Packers fans, and never were. They probably only got on board when Favre showed up anyhow...

Thats bullshit.... just because we back a player thats been here longer and done more for us than any GM, Coach, Prez in that building has ever done, do not start thinking you can tell us who is and is not a packer fan....

Once upon a time, there was a man named Vince, who brought many championships to Green Bay......

WITH ONE OF THE GREATEST QUARTERBACKS EVER. THEN, SAID QUARTERBACK LEFT AND WE SUCKED BALLS FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS. WILL HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF? WHO KNOWS. BUT WHY ON EARTH WOULD WE WANT TO FIND OUT AND RISK IT? Give me a known commodity when that commodity is quite skilled and one of the best in the biz any day over an unknown.