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  • Taking The High Road

    I believe that Mike McCarthy, Mark Murphy, Bob Harlan, the Packer board of directors - and most especially, Ted Thompson - deserve a tremendous amount of credit for taking the high road during FavreGate.
    In watching the various interviews, especially McCarthy's Tuesday press conference, I sense that below the surface there are many, many things that could be said in response to the nasty claims from the Favre camp, but are repressed. It's tough, for example, to hold back from a response when having your administration being called liars, but McCarthy chose to act like an adult.
    However, clues to why the Packers were no longer interested in Favre were there.
    Example : when McCarthy mentioned asking Favre if he would be in the 'quarterbacks' room' (film study) on Thursday nights studying film on the next opponent. How many times in recent years was Favre NOT preparing properly?
    I think the ringing silence of the Packer players when it came to Favre's return is very telling.
    Murphy, in my opinion, WAS offering a bribe of sorts to Favre to stay retired, but I see that as just a very expensive olive branch. It seems to indicate that the Packers were willing to spend millions to allow Favre to save face; to not have to go thru facing the fact that he had simply outworn his welcome.

    Thompson, the architect of the team that gave Favre a golden opportunity to win the Super Bowl he wants, has, in my opinion, showed the greatest grace under pressure. Despite being pummelled, insulted, and demonized by many 'fans' for simply doing his job, he has refused to seek a spotlight to tell HIS side of the story. I'd love to know more about the many, many times Packer planning has been held hostage by Favre, as well as the many times since his retirement management has bent over backwards to appease his whims.
    To my knowledge, he's never rightfully blasted Favre for his very public meddling with team decisions. Favre was upset because Thompson hired McCarthy over his crony, Mariucci?? Favre upset because the team wouldn't pursue Moss (who only wanted to use the Pack as a pawn, anyway)???
    Even after all of this, Thompson still held the door open as long as possible.

    I think Thompson and the Packers have earned a tremendous amount of respect around the league, and I think it is well deserved.
    I am extremely proud of them.
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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    They are paid professionals (well paid) and acted accordingly and have done a pretty damn good job along the way. That is saying something in the times we find ourselves in. Was Harlan even a part of this latest carnival? I thought he was retired?
    C.H.U.D.

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    • #3
      Re: Taking The High Road

      Originally posted by The Shadow
      Example : when McCarthy mentioned asking Favre if he would be in the 'quarterbacks' room' (film study) on Thursday nights studying film on the next opponent. How many times in recent years was Favre NOT preparing properly?
      I don't believe this was said to imply Favre wasn't. In the past it may have been an issue (like 10-12 years ago), but not in recent years. In fact, there have been articles in recent years that said Favre was in the film room a lot. Maybe too much--which might have been part of his mental burnout.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #4
        Bob Harlan has nothing to do with this.

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        • #5
          Do you honestly believe Bob Harlan was not asked for his input?
          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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          • #6
            sorry if somebody already said this, i haven't taken the time to read everybodys post when i got home from work today... i find it funny brett waving to fans and saying he "wanted to play for the packers all along" up until his meeting with mccarthy... and when mccarthy comes out and said he wouldn't allow brett to play b/c his mind wasn't right... then brett has the audacity to come out and talk about how the relationship has been damaged due to the lies the packers have said earlier in the offseason? and that he just couldn't let that go...

            my how the stories change... does he really think the packer faithful are going to fall for this shit?... i'm sorry to see him go, it was hella fun while it lasted, but good ridance (can't believe i'm saying that)... let the season begin!!... GO AR!!!

            and one other thing, if that sorry f'er ends up wearing fag purple (sorry ras), i've got one thing to say to him... MADDEN CURSE BITCH!! (not that i'd ever root for someone to get injured) lmfao
            Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
            Comin' down in candied toys, smokin' weed and talkin' noise!!!

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            • #7
              I'm sure alot of people were asked for their opinion. But you act as if Harlan was behind this, where you are simply speculating that he was. That's all I'm saying.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GBRulz
                I'm sure alot of people were asked for their opinion. But you act as if Harlan was behind this, where you are simply speculating that he was. That's all I'm saying.
                Not 'behind this' - simply consulted, out of respect.
                Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BZnDallas
                  sorry if somebody already said this, i haven't taken the time to read everybodys post when i got home from work today... i find it funny brett waving to fans and saying he "wanted to play for the packers all along" up until his meeting with mccarthy... and when mccarthy comes out and said he wouldn't allow brett to play b/c his mind wasn't right... then brett has the audacity to come out and talk about how the relationship has been damaged due to the lies the packers have said earlier in the offseason? and that he just couldn't let that go...

                  my how the stories change... does he really think the packer faithful are going to fall for this shit?... i'm sorry to see him go, it was hella fun while it lasted, but good ridance (can't believe i'm saying that)... let the season begin!!... GO AR!!!

                  and one other thing, if that sorry f'er ends up wearing fag purple (sorry ras), i've got one thing to say to him... MADDEN CURSE BITCH!! (not that i'd ever root for someone to get injured) lmfao
                  Yeah, but he walked away for the right reasons. He walked away because he felt that was best for the team. You can't be angry with him for doing what he felt was fair and in the best interest of his former teammates that he still cares cares about and hopes will do well. I thank him for that. He allowed this whole ordeal to end on a fairly positive note. Well, at least compared to other outcomes.
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                  • #10
                    i see where you're coming from gunakor... i'm just tired of the two face lies... hes mad at the packer organization for thier lies yet hes spewing bullshit right back... but i do agree... it could have gotten a lot worse
                    Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
                    Comin' down in candied toys, smokin' weed and talkin' noise!!!

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                    • #11
                      While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

                        Da Ted is flawless
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by packinpatland
                          While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

                          As I said in another thread, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

                          The fact is it may have looked like tampering. I think TT would have been even more wrong to not act proactively when he smelled something funny. If it looks like tampering you respond to it as if it were tampering. If you are wrong, no big deal. If you are right, you've done a great thing for your football team. I don't think those charges were filed in spite, rather as a response to something TT saw or heard.
                          Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by packinpatland
                            While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.
                            Do you think Favre discussed playing in MN in his conversation with Childress & Bevell?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by packinpatland
                              While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.
                              Uh ...

                              Those are explicit, drawn out rules and guidelines as outlined and enforced by the NFL.

                              The NFL does not govern feelings and emotions, however ...

                              TT simply did his job with that. What if it would have turned into something MUCH MORE and the Packers never reported it ... wouldn't have a leg to stand on in going back. If TT had information and didnt report it, I'm sure that's also highly frowned upon by the NFL. Just like when colleges will report *to* the NCAA recruiting violation infractions. It's like turning yourself in in that case, but mandatory ...

                              It's called due diligence and part of TT's job description.

                              That's what he gets paid to do.

                              Favre gets paid to throw footballs. Not talk to the media and stir shit up that really wasn't necessary for the whole world to be engulfed in. That's not the high road.

                              I'm pretty sure TT did nothing outside of what was demanded of him from a media perspective (as far as what he said publically). You can question his private conversations or motivates or character or whateve (and that's fine) but from an action standpoint, I dunno ...

                              The blind ignorance in this forum is at times astounding ... frustrating as hell.

                              I wonder what some of the wonderlics are in here ... lol

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