Taking The High Road

[RashanGary]

I'll say this, the Packers were smarter. They didn't come out and call anyone anything but they laid the groundwork for people to put it together themselves. Brett name called and shot back. I don't think he did himself any favors. For a guy as popular as he, this thing sure didn't go his way.

[packinpatland]

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

Uh ...

Those are explicit, drawn out rules and guidelines as outlined and enforced by the NFL.

The NFL does not govern feelings and emotions, however ...

TT simply did his job with that. What if it would have turned into something MUCH MORE and the Packers never reported it ... wouldn't have a leg to stand on in going back. If TT had information and didnt report it, I'm sure that's also highly frowned upon by the NFL. Just like when colleges will report *to* the NCAA recruiting violation infractions. It's like turning yourself in in that case, but mandatory ...

It's called due diligence and part of TT's job description.

That's what he gets paid to do.

Favre gets paid to throw footballs. Not talk to the media and stir shit up that really wasn't necessary for the whole world to be engulfed in. That's not the high road.

I'm pretty sure TT did nothing outside of what was demanded of him from a media perspective (as far as what he said publically). You can question his private conversations or motivates or character or whateve (and that's fine) but from an action standpoint, I dunno ...

The blind ignorance in this forum is at times astounding ... frustrating as hell.

I wonder what some of the wonderlics are in here ... lol

Mr Goodell agrees...........

[Tyrone Bigguns]

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

Uh ...

Those are explicit, drawn out rules and guidelines as outlined and enforced by the NFL.

The NFL does not govern feelings and emotions, however ...

TT simply did his job with that. What if it would have turned into something MUCH MORE and the Packers never reported it ... wouldn't have a leg to stand on in going back. If TT had information and didnt report it, I'm sure that's also highly frowned upon by the NFL. Just like when colleges will report *to* the NCAA recruiting violation infractions. It's like turning yourself in in that case, but mandatory ...

It's called due diligence and part of TT's job description.

That's what he gets paid to do.

Favre gets paid to throw footballs. Not talk to the media and stir shit up that really wasn't necessary for the whole world to be engulfed in. That's not the high road.

I'm pretty sure TT did nothing outside of what was demanded of him from a media perspective (as far as what he said publically). You can question his private conversations or motivates or character or whateve (and that's fine) but from an action standpoint, I dunno ...

The blind ignorance in this forum is at times astounding ... frustrating as hell.

I wonder what some of the wonderlics are in here ... lol

Mr Goodell agrees...........

What the findings were is not relevant to taking the low road. TT did his job.

If he did something wrong, mr. goodell woulda fined us/him/taken away picks.

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While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

Uh ...

Those are explicit, drawn out rules and guidelines as outlined and enforced by the NFL.

The NFL does not govern feelings and emotions, however ...

TT simply did his job with that. What if it would have turned into something MUCH MORE and the Packers never reported it ... wouldn't have a leg to stand on in going back. If TT had information and didnt report it, I'm sure that's also highly frowned upon by the NFL. Just like when colleges will report *to* the NCAA recruiting violation infractions. It's like turning yourself in in that case, but mandatory ...

It's called due diligence and part of TT's job description.

That's what he gets paid to do.

Favre gets paid to throw footballs. Not talk to the media and stir shit up that really wasn't necessary for the whole world to be engulfed in. That's not the high road.

I'm pretty sure TT did nothing outside of what was demanded of him from a media perspective (as far as what he said publically). You can question his private conversations or motivates or character or whateve (and that's fine) but from an action standpoint, I dunno ...

The blind ignorance in this forum is at times astounding ... frustrating as hell.

I wonder what some of the wonderlics are in here ... lol

Mr Goodell agrees...........

It's not that they tampered or didn't tamper ... it's that it's just as "UNLAWFUL" *NOT* to report information as it is to be a party involved in the said information.

So do us a favor...

Read my post again ... REAAAAAAALLLLL REAAAAAAAL SLOOOOOOOOWLY.

Then read Ty's ...

Then read this one again ...

Then shut your computer off for awhile and come back tomorrow.

[RashanGary]

Here is what I think the Packers did right:

1. They filed tampering charges. Most fans would then understand why a direct release did not make sense and they didn't have much explaining to do when ESPN was running their "free Brett" campaign.

2. They set out a timeline and let people draw their own conclusions rather than saying anything bad about Brett. People put it together that he was a waffler and many thought he was dicking the Packers around

3. They came out and didn't insult him but said his head was not where it needed to be adn emotionally he was in a tough spot. It sounds like they're trying to be gentle but it puts in peoples minds that he's a nut case.



All in all the Packers never came out and took shots but they definitly laid the groundwork for poeple to put it together themselves. Ridding themselves of Brett was a near impossible thing to do but somehow they managed to do it with very little backlash. Bye Brett. Take your traitorous, emotionally unstable, waffling ass to Tampa But the Packers never said that

[pbmax]

What pod person is this pretending to be Bretsky?

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

Da Ted is flawless

[RashanGary]

I do think all of the things are true that people think of Brett negatively right now, but I am more impressed with how the Packers presented it without coming off as the bad guys. Favre had a lot of good will built up and cutting through the BS and showing people reality was a very hard thing to do. They did it. I'm impressed.

[Bretsky]

What pod person is this pretending to be Bretsky?

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

Da Ted is flawless

Ah, don't worry pb.....it was me....and I was laughing as I typed that

[pbmax]

The tampering charge could simply have been used to turn off or slow down the information traveling from purple pride land usa. McCarthy said they never believed Favre really wanted back in, and if that's your midset, then looking for an instigator when he changed his mind would be natural.

The Packers were forced to do a number of things they don't often do. They released info on background (Glazer, McGinn, Wilde and Schefter) or leak and had to comment on what were essentially ongoing negotiations. Thompson publicly stated the facts as he saw them about the March unretirement. They also needed to respond to leaks (the licensing deal/bribery).

So the Packers behaved as they needed to, but they didn't seem to make it personal or vindicative. They acquitted themselves well. But they did make a fundamental miscalculation when they had themselves convinced that he was going to ultimately decide not to play.

[Bretsky]

The tampering charge could simply have been used to turn off or slow down the information traveling from purple pride land usa. McCarthy said they never believed Favre really wanted back in, and if that's your midset, then looking for an instigator when he changed his mind would be natural.

The Packers were forced to do a number of things they don't often do. They released info on background (Glazer, McGinn, Wilde and Schefter) or leak and hand to comment on what were essentially ongoing negotiations. Thompson publicly stated the facts as he saw them about the March unretirement. They also needed to respond to leaks (the licensing deal/bribery).

So the Packers behaved as they needed to, but they didn't seem to make it personal or vindicative. They acquitted themselves well. But they did make a fundamental miscalculation when they had themselves convinced that he was going to ultimately decide not to play.

It was great PR and I mean that sincerely; Favre could learn from their tactfulness. I wonder if that yahoo they hired from the political realm taught them a few things. A timeline.......brilliant

[pbmax]

The M3 press conference was pure Fleischer, answer all questions on a topic the same way, rephrased. M3 was even joking about it during the press conference.

It was great PR and I mean that sincerely; Favre could learn from their tactfulness. I wonder if that yahoo they hired from the political realm taught them a few things. A timeline.......brilliant

[Bretsky]

The M3 press conference was pure Fleischer, answer all questions on a topic the same way, rephrased. M3 was even joking about it during the press conference.

It was great PR and I mean that sincerely; Favre could learn from their tactfulness. I wonder if that yahoo they hired from the political realm taught them a few things. A timeline.......brilliant

I think MM is a natural and I respect him more after watching the press conference. If MM was in charge of this whole gig it would have been resolved long ago IMO

[swede]

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

That was a brilliant move that stopped all of the "personal" phone calls to Brad Childress and forestalled any further attempts by Minnesota to interfere in the situation. TT knew that Goodell would find for the Vikings in public but tear the Vikings a new one in private.

[packinpatland]

[quote="swede"]

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

That was a brilliant move that stopped all of the "personal" phone calls to Brad Childress and forestalled any further attempts by Minnesota to interfere in the situation. TT knew that Goodell would find for the Vikings in public but tear the Vikings a new one in private.


You're as bad as the media......reporting something that you have no idea if it actually happened.

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[quote="packinpatland"]

While I can agree with most of the original post....I'm not sure TT took the 'high road'. The allegations about tampering..... that was taking the low road, in my opinion.

That was a brilliant move that stopped all of the "personal" phone calls to Brad Childress and forestalled any further attempts by Minnesota to interfere in the situation. TT knew that Goodell would find for the Vikings in public but tear the Vikings a new one in private.


You're as bad as the media......reporting something that you have no idea if it actually happened.

A day later and you still don't realize YOU ARE WRONG?

Phone calls happened. That's all that was reported. It's league policy to report such activities given the situation.

The commish ruled that the calls would warrant no discipline.

We know the calls happened. Everyone knows the calls happened.

Why are you so daft that even in this apples vs oranges week we've had, you choose to argue grapes?

It's not applicable.

One more time --

Calls happened, they need to be reported. The league looked into it, decided against action.

Pretty simple.