Sad day in GB History

[GBRulz]

Re: Sad day in GB History

And by the way, I do hope you all saw or heard in the quick interview of Brett's at the airport when he said, "I had no intention of playing in Green Bay.".....

Are you referring to the interview of when he landed in MS, yesterday? I've seen that interview over and over and didn't hear him say that at all. He said that returning to GB was more or less a formality.

I'm just curious what interview you are referring to?

[LL2]

But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.

They're only $20 at Jets Shop.

If you are a true Packer fan you will do no such thing..who the heck is this hack writing this?

[Bossman641]

But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.

They're only $20 at Jets Shop.

If you are a true Packer fan you will do no such thing..who the heck is this hack writing this?

Big surprise that article is coming from Gene W over at ESPN. Every article he's done has been 100% pro Favre.

[Zool]

But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.

They're only $20 at Jets Shop.

If you are a true Packer fan you will do no such thing..who the heck is this hack writing this?

Big surprise that article is coming from Gene W over at ESPN. Every article he's done has been 100% pro Favre.

The reason that no fan should ever be a sports writer.

[sheepshead]

But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.

They're only $20 at Jets Shop.

If you are a true Packer fan you will do no such thing..who the heck is this hack writing this?

Big surprise that article is coming from Gene W over at ESPN. Every article he's done has been 100% pro Favre.

The reason that no fan should ever be a sports writer.

or bet on sports! too much emotion.

[HarveyWallbangers]

PIP, you keep quoting guys that are on Favre's jock. This Wojo guy has been far from balanced. You need to post some articles of guys that have no stake in the race, as they say.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3517748&sportCat=nfl

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3508012&sportCat=nfl

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3485214&sportCat=nfl

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?id=3475850&sportCat=nfl

He's one of the main reasons people call it FavreSPN.

[packinpatland]

Would you suggest I just quote the very professional Dr. Z?
Come on, everyone quotes whoever helps to prove their point.
I'm not ashamed to admit I am pro-Favre and very biased.
I still feel that no other player for any other team as done more to put their team on the NFL map.
I am a Packer fan, and am hoping Mr. Rodgers does well......it will be awhile before I will call him 'leader of the Pack'...........maybe in time.

[sharpe1027]

No, I don't believe it. Not because he's a Jet, but because Thompson just traded the best quarterback on his roster.

At Favre's request...

[BallHawk]

My God, Gene W is just brutal.....

For all those Favre critics who insist he's a drama queen, remember that he could have stayed in Green Bay, practiced, competed in an open competition with Aaron Rodgers and dared Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy to keep him on the bench. But he didn't. He left after several days because he has more respect for the Packers than the Packers have for him.

Give me a break.

[hoosier]

Re: Sad day in GB History

This is probably going nowhere cause I've never actually gotten an answer to this question, but here goes. Can one of you TT haters please explain why you think he has a big ego? He has anything but an ego.

Is it because he got rid of all the SB players? Newsflash, we won the SB 11 years ago. There's a reason those players are gone.

Because he doesn't draft the big name players? That's turned out pretty well.

Because Rodgers is our starting QB and TT picked him? Well, Rodgers has been riding the pine for 3 years, so it's not like TT has been going out of his way to get him playing time.

Because the organization said no to Favre? TT must hate Favre right? Then why did he welcome him back in March? Why, for the past several offseasons, has he been in contact with Brett and always told him to make more time in making a decision?

Because he didn't take into account Favre's personnel decisions? I don't give a fuck. Favre isn't the GM.

It absolutely baffles me when people say this about TT. They use it as some excuse in their backing of Favre in order to bring TT down a notch. The Packers' decision wasn't ego, or jealousy of Favre, or TT hating Favre. It was a business decision.

Absolutely agree with the post, and also with the conviction that the TT bashers are completely unable to substantiate their constant refrain ("ego, ego, ego") with any credible evidence. The idea that TT has a big ego, or that his managerial decisions are ego-driven, is laughable.

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The ego thing always comes up when the Packers get rid of an old favorite, but I have a feeling that anti-TT sentiment among many fans is personal, and that the ego thing is a way of saying they just don't like the guy (though of course they could never just say that without sounding petty, so they have to invent something less personal sounding). What's there to dislike about TT or his public image? Is it because of how he comes across in media events, as lacking charimsa, evasive, whatever?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Would you suggest I just quote the very professional Dr. Z?
Come on, everyone quotes whoever helps to prove their point.

Dr. Z is a Favre hater. I wouldn't quote him. You can quote whomever you want, but it's not going to be taken as seriously if it's from a Dr. Z or Wojo. There are some guys that you know will slant an article a certain way. They have extreme bias. I avoid posting articles from those guys--no matter if they agree with me or not. And when I do post an article by a guy like that, I usually let it be known that this guy has an extreme bias. For example, when I post an article from Vinnie Iyer, I usually say that Vinnie has been on the Packers bandwagon for quite some time. It's like politics. It's intellectually honest to say certain papers normally slant an article a certain way and then let people judge the content knowing the bias of that writer.

Anyways! Let's put this behind us. Root for the Packers. Root for the Jets, if you desire. (I will.) Let's get ready for some Green Bay Packers football.

[GBRulz]

I just hope our QB situation doesn't mirror our WR situation from 3 years ago when we resorted to starting people named Taco because TT refused to bring in more help at the position when we were decimated by injuries. We lost Walker in week #1 and TT did nothing. Perhaps he had his own plan on wanting Sherman out the door and didn't want to do anything to help him at all, but still.

I think Rodgers will do fine and it's not his abilities that I'm worried about. It's him getting hurt and not having a back-up plan when that happens. Just kind of a scary feeling of Deja Vu, that's all.

[Pacopete4]

I just hope our QB situation doesn't mirror our WR situation from 3 years ago when we resorted to starting people named Taco because TT refused to bring in more help at the position when we were decimated by injuries. We lost Walker in week #1 and TT did nothing. Perhaps he had his own plan on wanting Sherman out the door and didn't want to do anything to help him at all, but still.

I think Rodgers will do fine and it's not his abilities that I'm worried about. It's him getting hurt and not having a back-up plan when that happens. Just kind of a scary feeling of Deja Vu, that's all.

Do you think anywhere in that trade there is a clause that says if Arod gets hurt, we get Favre back?.... cuz we might be screwed if he Arod goes down

[Gunakor]

This is a great day. The situation is resolved.

The sad day for Green Bay fans was when Brett retired.

Don't get me wrong, I think we will sorely miss "Greybeard" and he'll do wonders in NY. But his emotions really screwed with the team's preparations.

I will hate seeing him in a different uni. I am glad the team can now focus on the season with everything settled.

I'm with the Aussie; I feel the same way.

"His emotions eh??"...Damn you EVER play 16 years doing crazy shit and hear/know you are UNWANTED? Regardless of what all the shit's been done...The man remade GB with various staffs and showed no drop off last year....Let the mofo play....This shit is insane in the brain.

Vince Lombardi would have traded him to the Eagles way the fuck back on June 21st. If anything, the Packers management fucked up here by letting it drag out so long. They didn't make a mistake by trading him.

I agree with Bretsky in that if MM were the one really running the show, this whole thing would have been resolved a month ago. But I'm not sure the end result would have been any different.

[Gunakor]

This is a great day. The situation is resolved.

The sad day for Green Bay fans was when Brett retired.

Don't get me wrong, I think we will sorely miss "Greybeard" and he'll do wonders in NY. But his emotions really screwed with the team's preparations.

I will hate seeing him in a different uni. I am glad the team can now focus on the season with everything settled.

I'm with the Aussie; I feel the same way.

Same here. The sad day in terms of mourning was the day he retired. The sadness now is the sadness of having watched both sides bungle this and the media then turning into even more of a mess.

I'm glad it's over.

Fully agree. I've been on the Aaron Rodgers bandwagon since March. Remember the 5 stages of grieving thread? I thought we had all reached the end of that already, so I didn't think saying goodbye to a player we had already said goodbye to would have been all that difficult. It's not like Favre JUST left us. He left us 5 months ago.