After The Dust Has Settled

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

Yes you can!

I'll tell you what: losing to you in fantasy football was humbling the first time. It was humiliating the second time. It's just not going to happen this year.

[SkinBasket]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

Yes you can!

I'll tell you what: losing to you in fantasy football was humbling the first time. It was humiliating the second time. It's just not going to happen this year.

You can't hope to beat dumb luck. It will always be dumber and luckier than you.

[The Shadow]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3523451

[cpk1994]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3523451

HOw long before ESPN fires him for attacking Favre?

[GoPackGo]

So when you watch the Packers this season and wait for them to implode without their former starter, remember one thing: This isn't the NBA, in which you can just add a Kevin Garnett and a Ray Allen to a lousy team and win a title. In football, you need 53 men to be focused on the same goal -- instead of one man carrying a team. The Packers have that going for themselves today. And that's reason enough for them to not regret parting ways with one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history.

[BallHawk]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3523451

And, of course, it's the black guy that has to set everybody straight.

[The Shadow]

Now that Brett Favre is a New York Jet and Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson is the most scrutinized executive in the NFL, let's get one thing straight: The Packers will be fine.


You can talk all you want about how much better the Packers would've been with Favre. You can point out the mistakes Thompson made in handling the longest-running soap opera in recent league history. What you can't do, however, is make a case for the Packers falling apart now that old No. 4 is working in the Big Apple. That one just doesn't fly.

For those people who want to point to all the things Favre has accomplished in his glorious 17-year career, I will steer you to some of the feats Thompson and head coach Mike McCarthy have pulled off during their brief tenure in Green Bay. They put the league's youngest team on the field last season and watched it win 13 games and an NFC North title.
They've rid themselves of aging, expensive veterans and filled their roster with young playmakers, 40 of whom Thompson acquired since becoming general manager in 2005. And for those who pay attention to the bottom line, the Packers are still $30 million under the cap.



Those are the kinds of facts that don't get mentioned in the media or by fans because they're not as sexy as the fate of a miffed 38-year-old quarterback who's headed for the Hall of Fame. But trust me, they matter far more than most people realize. Those facts mean that Thompson and McCarthy have been quite proficient at their jobs since showing up in Green Bay. They also mean that skeptical Packers fans should be excited about a team that has clearly been built to last.



In fact, all the Favre supporters who castigated Thompson over the past month need to finally realize how much Favre contributed to this controversy in the first place. Favre was the one who chose to retire back in March. He's also the one who said he wanted to return to the Packers a few weeks later, only to tell them he didn't want to come back after all. While I'm on the subject, he's still the same guy who kept this controversy stewing for so long because he wanted to get his way and manipulate the public into believing he was still a star worth loving.



If this past month should've told us anything about Favre, it's that we now understand why Thompson and McCarthy got fed up with the guy in the first place. Favre simply couldn't commit to their plan, either because he didn't feel loved enough or because Thompson wasn't willing to sign Randy Moss, hire Steve Mariucci and kiss Favre's ring all in the same motion.

[texaspackerbacker]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

....aren't the Packers exactly where they were on the day Favre retired - but with one more decent draft pick?


Personally, I have also gained an increased measure of trust, faith, pride,and respect for the Packer management team - but I understand not everyone feels the same.

The Shadow not only knows, but is a master at stating the obvious.

I wouldn't place much importance on the idea of Favre coming to the rescue and that option no longer being available. I know I'm flip-flopping a little, but I don't think he would have been able to come in after a Rodgers injury and do anything special anyway. Brohm is just as likely to be able to win with this outstanding overall team.

Bottom line, though, is that it is extremely doubtful IMO that Rodgers gets hurt.

[The Shadow]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

....aren't the Packers exactly where they were on the day Favre retired - but with one more decent draft pick?


Personally, I have also gained an increased measure of trust, faith, pride,and respect for the Packer management team - but I understand not everyone feels the same.

The Shadow not only knows, but is a master at stating the obvious.
I wouldn't place much importance on the idea of Favre coming to the rescue and that option no longer being available. I know I'm flip-flopping a little, but I don't think he would have been able to come in after a Rodgers injury and do anything special anyway. Brohm is just as likely to be able to win with this outstanding overall team.

Bottom line, though, is that it is extremely doubtful IMO that Rodgers gets hurt.

With all of the hullabaloo, I just thought it might be helpful to state it.
In the last day, I've seen folks suddenly deciding the Packers will be lucky to go 7-9, after once targeting 10-6.

[Rastak]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

....aren't the Packers exactly where they were on the day Favre retired - but with one more decent draft pick?


Personally, I have also gained an increased measure of trust, faith, pride,and respect for the Packer management team - but I understand not everyone feels the same.

The Shadow not only knows, but is a master at stating the obvious.

I wouldn't place much importance on the idea of Favre coming to the rescue and that option no longer being available. I know I'm flip-flopping a little, but I don't think he would have been able to come in after a Rodgers injury and do anything special anyway. Brohm is just as likely to be able to win with this outstanding overall team.

Bottom line, though, is that it is extremely doubtful IMO that Rodgers gets hurt.

How do I put this politely.....let's see.

Are you out of your fucking mind?

[Bretsky]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

Yes you can!

I'll tell you what: losing to you in fantasy football was humbling the first time. It was humiliating the second time. It's just not going to happen this year.

You need me in the division to help raise your game

From the sounds of it you suck without me ruffling your feathers

[Bretsky]

Now that Brett Favre is a New York Jet and Green Bay general manager Ted Thompson is the most scrutinized executive in the NFL, let's get one thing straight: The Packers will be fine.


You can talk all you want about how much better the Packers would've been with Favre. You can point out the mistakes Thompson made in handling the longest-running soap opera in recent league history. What you can't do, however, is make a case for the Packers falling apart now that old No. 4 is working in the Big Apple. That one just doesn't fly.

For those people who want to point to all the things Favre has accomplished in his glorious 17-year career, I will steer you to some of the feats Thompson and head coach Mike McCarthy have pulled off during their brief tenure in Green Bay. They put the league's youngest team on the field last season and watched it win 13 games and an NFC North title.
They've rid themselves of aging, expensive veterans and filled their roster with young playmakers, 40 of whom Thompson acquired since becoming general manager in 2005. And for those who pay attention to the bottom line, the Packers are still $30 million under the cap.



Those are the kinds of facts that don't get mentioned in the media or by fans because they're not as sexy as the fate of a miffed 38-year-old quarterback who's headed for the Hall of Fame. But trust me, they matter far more than most people realize. Those facts mean that Thompson and McCarthy have been quite proficient at their jobs since showing up in Green Bay. They also mean that skeptical Packers fans should be excited about a team that has clearly been built to last.



In fact, all the Favre supporters who castigated Thompson over the past month need to finally realize how much Favre contributed to this controversy in the first place. Favre was the one who chose to retire back in March. He's also the one who said he wanted to return to the Packers a few weeks later, only to tell them he didn't want to come back after all. While I'm on the subject, he's still the same guy who kept this controversy stewing for so long because he wanted to get his way and manipulate the public into believing he was still a star worth loving.



If this past month should've told us anything about Favre, it's that we now understand why Thompson and McCarthy got fed up with the guy in the first place. Favre simply couldn't commit to their plan, either because he didn't feel loved enough or because Thompson wasn't willing to sign Randy Moss, hire Steve Mariucci and kiss Favre's ring all in the same motion.

Shadow,

When I saw your intitial thread and post I was going to note you are sounding like a broken record often making the same point in many different ways.

But as for this, you make a lot of very good points in here and it was a very good post.

[Bretsky]

Re: After The Dust Has Settled

....aren't the Packers exactly where they were on the day Favre retired - but with one more decent draft pick?


Personally, I have also gained an increased measure of trust, faith, pride,and respect for the Packer management team - but I understand not everyone feels the same.

The Shadow not only knows, but is a master at stating the obvious.

I wouldn't place much importance on the idea of Favre coming to the rescue and that option no longer being available. I know I'm flip-flopping a little, but I don't think he would have been able to come in after a Rodgers injury and do anything special anyway. Brohm is just as likely to be able to win with this outstanding overall team.

Bottom line, though, is that it is extremely doubtful IMO that Rodgers gets hurt.

That part is bunk; we saw last year what he could do with very good receivers. Our WR's should be better this year. He was a great security blanket and if that pick turns out to be a 3rd or 4th round pick the security blanket .....with a decent outlook......may turn out to be far more valuable.

[vince]

Shadow,

When I saw your intitial thread and post I was going to note you are sounding like a broken record often making the same point in many different ways.

But as for this, you make a lot of very good points in here and it was a very good post.

Except that it wasn't his post...

That was lifted from ESPN. Shadow's attribution skills leave a little bit to be desired.

[Bretsky]

Shadow,

When I saw your intitial thread and post I was going to note you are sounding like a broken record often making the same point in many different ways.

But as for this, you make a lot of very good points in here and it was a very good post.

Except that it wasn't his post...

That was lifted from ESPN. Shadow's attribution skills leave a little bit to be desired.

I was actually referring to another his packer mgmt glorification commentary