"LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

[cpk1994]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

rob parker on espn first take says that favre's play last year was a fluke; that management knows it and everybody in GB knows it. could that be why they didnt welcome him back w/open arms????

also, skip bayless says that #4 wont attend any number retiring ceremony in GB. that would be SOME statement....

The # retirement ceromony has already been put on hold so I don't think there is a statement here


Rob Parker is completely ingnorant. There is a reason TT was terrified to trade him within his division. Last year showed what he was still capable of with weapons and GB was happy to take him back twice.......just not after the draft.

If you think TT was terrified to trade Favre within the division you are more ignorant thatn Parker could ever be. Parker was spot on in my opinion.

Yes, TT opened up trade talks with Minnesota right off the bat

You obviously have no clue how the business side of football works.

And you obviously don't understand common sense

Let the hate continue

I understand perfectly. YOu never make your division rival better at your own expense. THe Packers ultimate goal is the SB. Winning your division puts you in an easier position to achieve that goal. One of the keys to win the division is to beat the Vikes. Which way will it be easier, the Vikes with Jackson or the VIkes with Favre? Anyone with common sense, which you very much lack, knows the answer to that one. If you got your head out of Favre's ass you would see that better.

YET you just described PERFECTLY why TT was afraid to trade Favre to Minnesota

Nah skip it, you can't reason with someone who has his head up Favre's ass.

[pbmax]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

Yes.

Does anyone else think Skip Bayless is a hack? He's made a career off of making outrageous predictions that once in a while come true.

[mmmdk]

I know one thing for sure; Favre won't play in any comfy dome in the regular season this season. I predict that Favre will not play that sharply in november & december cold. Prior to that he'll be ok.

[motife]

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[bobblehead]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

rob parker on espn first take says that favre's play last year was a fluke; that management knows it and everybody in GB knows it. could that be why they didnt welcome him back w/open arms????

also, skip bayless says that #4 wont attend any number retiring ceremony in GB. that would be SOME statement....

Or it could be that we DID welcome him back with open arms and he retired. Then he unretired and they booked a private jet down to talk with him...probably to get him working with their trainer...and he retired again. I can't imagine why they didn't welcome him back with open arms after he didn't work out all offseason and missed the mini's and the OTA's.

Incidentally, I hope I'm wrong, but I see another 29 pick season for BF, but I would rather he gets them to the playoffs so we get a 2nd.

[Guiness]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

Nah skip it, you can't reason with someone who has his head up Favre's ass.

First off, learn to use the quote feature. It's not that tough, 'long as you have a grade 8 educamation.

Saying last year was a fluke is a sign of pure idiocy. What HH is quite probably true - they think Favre's in decline, and a year or so from now Rodgers will be the better QB. But to honestly think that a 16yr veteran's success last year was a flash in the pan...

[Packers4Ever]

I know one thing for sure; Favre won't play in any comfy dome in the regular season this season. I predict that Favre will not play that sharply in november & december cold. Prior to that he'll be ok.

Michael, I think it might depend on where the Packers sit on the win-loss scale that late in the season.
If the first 2-3 months have been more or less of a bust for the Pack, TT may concentrate a little more on having the new QBs play, where if they're doing really well - similar to last year - he may want Favre out on the field a higher % of each game, in the event we'd have a better chance of seeing the play-offs. JMHO.....
And who knows, Favre may not show such sharp reactions to excess cold/wind as he did last year, might have been a fluke. And - we don't know yet which teams we play under a dome either.

[MJZiggy]

P4E, Brett doesn't play for the Packers anymore, so nothing that happens to them will have an effect on him.

Also, M3 makes the decisions on which players play during the games.

[Lurker64]

I think, instead of saying last year was a fluke for Favre, it's probably more accurate to say that Favre got a lot of credit for things his WRs did for him last year. How many times did you see a TD pass get taken to the house because Jennings, Driver, or Jones made a good move to beat the coverage, caught the ball 10-20 yards down field, and then just ran away from everybody. While Favre definitely deserves credit for seeing that, and successfully completing the pass there, it doesn't take a hall of fame QB to throw TDs when your WRs are playing that well.

For example, on the winning TD against the Chargers, I have to say personally that I was more impressed by Jennings's ability to thread the defense than Favre's on that play (though both were good.)

Take Favre away from those WRs, and I don't know if he'll be able to replicate last year.

[Zool]

Michael, I think it might depend on where the Packers sit on the win-loss scale that late in the season.
If the first 2-3 months have been more or less of a bust for the Pack, TT may concentrate a little more on having the new QBs play, where if they're doing really well - similar to last year - he may want Favre out on the field a higher % of each game, in the event we'd have a better chance of seeing the play-offs. JMHO.....
And who knows, Favre may not show such sharp reactions to excess cold/wind as he did last year, might have been a fluke. And - we don't know yet which teams we play under a dome either.

Confusing post.

[th87]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

rob parker on espn first take says that favre's play last year was a fluke; that management knows it and everybody in GB knows it. could that be why they didnt welcome him back w/open arms????

also, skip bayless says that #4 wont attend any number retiring ceremony in GB. that would be SOME statement....

1. Favre's improved play was a result of accepting MM's coaching. Buy into the system, work out in the offseason, and study. Not a fluke per se, but rather an increase in effort.

2. Management knows something we don't. Otherwise they wouldn't risk their jobs on trading Favre and putting faith in Rodgers.

3. You don't make your division rivals better under any circumstances. Period. Favre is better than any NFC North QB, and there is absolutely no motivation to make division rivals better. This is pretty simple.

[Fritz]

If the Rob Perker who said what he did is the same guy that writes a column here in Detroit, he's made a living at saying outrageous crap that people get worked up over.

Less and less do I like the sports world. Writers have become often the equivalent of gossip rag hacks, supplementing their incomes by getting talk-show gigs in which they have to come up with enough controversial topics to piss people off enough to call in.

I don't watch ANY pre-game shows. If the Pack is on TV (usually here in Eastern Standard Time it's a 1:00 pm start), I flip on the tube at 1:05 p.m. - just in time to see the ball kicked off.

I wish though that I could listen to the games on Packer radio. Larivee and - who's the other guy? McCarren? - have got to be better than the nondescript TV garbage that does the games. I get s-o-o irked that the announcers don't seem to do their homework. All they ever know is Brett Favre and Donald Driver and that new Grant kid, maybe. But they don't know Spitz from Sitton. They don't really talk about the game itself much. They create storylines.

I could go on. But enough.

[Badgerinmaine]

I wish though that I could listen to the games on Packer radio. Larivee and - who's the other guy? McCarren? - have got to be better than the nondescript TV garbage that does the games.

You can buy access to the Packers radio broadcasts from the NFL. I do every year; it's how I get most of the games. It's called "NFL Field Pass". I think their pre-season rate is $30 for the season. The package includes every NFL team's games and includes pre-season, too.

[prsnfoto]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

rob parker on espn first take says that favre's play last year was a fluke; that management knows it and everybody in GB knows it. could that be why they didnt welcome him back w/open arms????

also, skip bayless says that #4 wont attend any number retiring ceremony in GB. that would be SOME statement....

The # retirement ceromony has already been put on hold so I don't think there is a statement here


Rob Parker is completely ingnorant. There is a reason TT was terrified to trade him within his division. Last year showed what he was still capable of with weapons and GB was happy to take him back twice.......just not after the draft.

If you think TT was terrified to trade Favre within the division you are more ignorant thatn Parker could ever be. Parker was spot on in my opinion.

Ya he is serious he is that fucking stupid.

[prsnfoto]

Re: "LAST YEAR WAS A FLUKE..."

rob parker on espn first take says that favre's play last year was a fluke; that management knows it and everybody in GB knows it. could that be why they didnt welcome him back w/open arms????

also, skip bayless says that #4 wont attend any number retiring ceremony in GB. that would be SOME statement....

1. Favre's improved play was a result of accepting MM's coaching. Buy into the system, work out in the offseason, and study. Not a fluke per se, but rather an increase in effort.

2. Management knows something we don't. Otherwise they wouldn't risk their jobs on trading Favre and putting faith in Rodgers.

3. You don't make your division rivals better under any circumstances. Period. Favre is better than any NFC North QB, and there is absolutely no motivation to make division rivals better. This is pretty simple.

1. He finally had some talent around him he didn't in 2005.2006 was average, so was he. Yes MM helped but talent and not feeling like he had to win every game himself was the larger factor.

2. Management is taking a huge gamble, MM's whole crap about he wasn't committed to play was a load of crap, you don't move your family across the country and risk getting torched by the most unforgiving town in sports unless you are COMMITTED. It was personal both ways they all truly can't stand each other anymore mainly BF and TT but MM seemed more pissed than any of them in his presser's something happened, someday a book will be written and we will all find out. Management is staking their future if AR doesn't work out they will be sent packing.

3. You are spot on and BF was still better than 18-20 NFL QB's.