Johnny Jolly

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jolly's case is very minor. He was caught with an unknown amount of codeine mixed in with Dr Pepper in his car.

I wonder were he got that idea?

if our field reporter, Boiga, can be trusted, it was his friend in the back seat who was mixing a tonic.

[boiga]

if our field reporter, Boiga, can be trusted, it was his friend in the back seat who was mixing a tonic.

Not necessarily. Jolly does need better friends though.

Here are the relevant details:

Texas prosecutors do not plan to seek charges that Green Bay Packers defensive lineman Johnny Jolly intended to sell codeine syrup after he was caught with a soda bottle of the prescription pain reliever.

The amount of codeine syrup seized – more than 200 grams but less than 400 grams – was considered personal use, said Donna Hawkins, assistant district attorney for Harris County.

The drug was found in a Dr Pepper soda bottle in a cupholder in Jolly’s vehicle, she said. That would be between 7 ounces and 14 ounces. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../80717086/1058

Officers of a specialized unit were patrolling the parking lot of a nightclub known for narcotics and weapons violations when they approached Jolly's vehicle at 1:10 a.m. July 8 on Houston's near north side.

Police heard loud music coming from the vehicle and saw four people inside.

When asked if there were weapons inside, the driver said yes. Police found a semi-automatic pistol on the floorboards. A 21-year-old man was charged with misdemeanor unlawful carrying of a weapon. Police detected the odor of codeine and found a couple of cups of codeine inside the vehicle.

During a search, police found a bag of marijuana on a 22-year-old man, who was charged with misdemeanor possessing marijuana. A fourth person was released and not charged. http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbc...C0101/80716089

Jolly paid his $10,000 bond on July 8 and has been ordered to submit to weekly, random urinalyses for drug monitoring and has been given a curfew of 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...693/1207/GPG01

And here's the article where his agent expresses seemingly justified optimism: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../80809052/1058

[mraynrand]

Jolly's case is very minor. He was caught with an unknown amount of codeine mixed in with Dr Pepper in his car with three other passengers. One of the guys in the car had a bag of pot on his body and was charged for that as well.

OK, thanks for this detail. Damn, the story sounds completely different every time I hear more information. I assumed it was a large quantity of cough medicine which was clearly Jolly's property.

This does sound very minor.

What if it was Hibernol?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Police heard loud music coming from the vehicle and saw four people inside.

I'm changing my opinion. I think Jolly should be suspended for this. I hate fuckers who blast everybody out for two blocks.

[javqa]

Here are the relevant details:

Officers of a specialized unit were patrolling the parking lot of a nightclub known for narcotics and weapons violations when they approached Jolly's vehicle at 1:10 a.m. July 8 on Houston's near north side.

Police heard loud music coming from the vehicle and saw four people inside.

When asked if there were weapons inside, the driver said yes. Police found a semi-automatic pistol on the floorboards. A 21-year-old man was charged with misdemeanor unlawful carrying of a weapon. Police detected the odor of codeine and found a couple of cups of codeine inside the vehicle.

During a search, police found a bag of marijuana on a 22-year-old man, who was charged with misdemeanor possessing marijuana. A fourth person was released and not charged. http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbc...C0101/80716089

A firearm too, eh? Don't like that at all - it bothers me more than the codeine, to say the truth. It's fortunate for him that someone else got tagged for that one, because Godell would've almost certainly sat him down for that, and would not have waited until the trial.

Police detected the odor of codeine and found a couple of cups of codeine inside the vehicle.

The odor of codeine? wtf is that? Anything like the 'scent of a woman'?

[billy_oliver880]

So what gave the police the right to search the vehicle? I would call this an illegal search.

[boiga]

A firearm too, eh? Don't like that at all - it bothers me more than the codeine, to say the truth. It's fortunate for him that someone else got tagged for that one, because Godell would've almost certainly sat him down for that, and would not have waited until the trial.

Police detected the odor of codeine and found a couple of cups of codeine inside the vehicle.

The odor of codeine? wtf is that? Anything like the 'scent of a woman'?

Yeah, the gun part worries me more too... but it's texas, so gun crimes don't matter. Also, considering that the police report mentions cups while the prosecutor only mentions the soda bottle, I'd argue that the "odor of codeine" bit is a bunch of bunkum cooked up by the police officers to justify searching the vehicle and the guys' bodies.

So what gave the police the right to search the vehicle? I would call this an illegal search.

They admitted to having a gun in the car, so that would be probably cause enough. Still, I'm glad they admitted it or that firearm charge could have been a lot more severe.

[billy_oliver880]

They admitted to having a gun in the car, so that would be probably cause enough. Still, I'm glad they admitted it or that firearm charge could have been a lot more severe.

They didn't have to admit anything. There was no cause for a search or to even bother these guys.

[Patler]

So what gave the police the right to search the vehicle? I would call this an illegal search.

The admitted presence of a firearm in the vehicle. They are allowed to search for their own protection.

[Patler]

They admitted to having a gun in the car, so that would be probably cause enough. Still, I'm glad they admitted it or that firearm charge could have been a lot more severe.

They didn't have to admit anything. There was no cause for a search or to even bother these guys.

When asked, you can't lie or you are in even more trouble if they find it.

Specialized task force cleaning up an area of known trouble. Nothing wrong with approaching the car where it was and the circumstances involved. It all builds from there, asking questions, observing etc. Upon approach they may not have had the right to search, but by the time they searched it they probably did.

[billy_oliver880]

They admitted to having a gun in the car, so that would be probably cause enough. Still, I'm glad they admitted it or that firearm charge could have been a lot more severe.

They didn't have to admit anything. There was no cause for a search or to even bother these guys.

When asked, you can't lie or you are in even more trouble if they find it.

Specialized task force cleaning up an area of known trouble. Nothing wrong with approaching the car where it was and the circumstances involved. It all builds from there, asking questions, observing etc. Upon approach they may not have had the right to search, but by the time they searched it they probably did.

Ya I can see that. Doesn't seem like they should have been poking around in this vehicle but it turned out there was a reason. Lets hope for Jolly's sake that someone else takes the fall.

[pbmax]

What term would you use for taking codeine as though it was a Dr. Pepper?

I doubt he was treating a nagging injury at 1:00 AM by drinking out of a Dr. Pepper bottle.

from the recent information, I have no reason to believe Jolly has a drug problem.

[The Gunshooter]

So what gave the police the right to search the vehicle? I would call this an illegal search.

The following is for entertainment puposes only.

Blaring music at 1 am on top of driving dirty is like advertising for trouble. What are the police to do, allow their alleged authority to be challenged?

Throw the keys down on the floor, lock it and step out of the vehicle and shut up. Let them call for a drug dog or get a warrant.

[mission]

So what gave the police the right to search the vehicle? I would call this an illegal search.

The following is for entertainment puposes only.

Blaring music at 1 am on top of driving dirty is like advertising for trouble. What are the police to do, allow their alleged authority to be challenged?

Throw the keys down on the floor, lock it and step out of the vehicle and shut up. Let them call for a drug dog or get a warrant.

Lol so lock your keys in the car? Have you ever been in this situation yourself? I question its effectiveness, but if you've pulled this off by some strange loophole, im curious to know how ...

[Harlan Huckleby]

What term would you use for taking codeine as though it was a Dr. Pepper?

I doubt he was treating a nagging injury at 1:00 AM by drinking out of a Dr. Pepper bottle.

from the recent information, I have no reason to believe Jolly has a drug problem.

was he the one drinking the magic elixer?