Pat Williams is Making Week One Even More Interesting!

[Tarlam!]

But I do resent the term "retarded" to a post, even if the post is disagreeable.

Even if the 2 guys are friends?

No, not then. Then I think it's funny!

[Tarlam!]

Sorry for offending you and anyone else. Seems like an outrageous statement to me.

AP is a good runner yes but its not hard to make an argument that he's overrated.

Forget it, 31!

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

[Tarlam!]

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I can see your point, but I disagree with it.

I think Peterson gives both Brohm and Jones the honesty from the defense they both need to really shine.

[SMACKTALKIE]

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

Good. I don't forsee AD becoming a Packer soon. This is a debate that should be discussed half way through the season.

[3irty1]

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I don't think I'd want to give them Rodgers and Jennings when Taylor can do just as good behind their line.

[3irty1]

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I don't think I'd want to give them Rodgers and Jennings when Taylor can do almost as good behind their line.

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I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I don't think I'd want to give them Rodgers and Jennings when Taylor can do almost as good behind their line.

Good point.

I wont argue that AP is Top 2 in the league at his position (and you could argue for #1) but a team's offense will account for X amount of yards for the year. Someone has to get those yards ...

I didn't see his record-setting performance get them into the playoffs or anything so first things first, OK ... ? Until he's the game changer that actually creates huge dominance for his team then I cant justify giving up the farm for him... Rodgers and Jennings? I don't think I'd do it ... running back is just too much of a here today, gone tomorrow position.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Pat Williams is Making Week One Even More Interesting!

Some Pat Williams smack talk. Obviously a biased take but coming from P.Williams makes it kind of funny. How do you guys and gals feel about it?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgR2xcvdgNZbmwrNOCZXuoBDubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday081208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Trippin’ Tuesday: More spice to Vikes-Pack rivalry

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

MANKATO, Minn. – Brett Favre is gone to the Big Apple, awash in a spin cycle of helicopter tours and glorious punishment laps and stream-of-consciousness musings about his latest life turn.


Meanwhile, back in the NFC North, the nasty rivalry the ex-Green Bay legend left behind is hotter than ever.


Between the quarterback’s abortive effort to land in Minnesota and the tampering charge the Packers filed against the Vikings, who were subsequently exonerated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, there’s a lot of lingering bitterness between the two franchises. Throw in the Pack’s status as a team that finished a game away from the Super Bowl last season and the near-universal coronation of the Vikes as the NFC’s trendy power-on-the-rise, and that Sept. 8 regular-season opener at Lambeau Field can’t come soon enough.


This was confirmed Sunday when I visited the Vikings’ training camp home at Minnesota State University and asked Pro Bowl nose tackle Pat Williams whether he’d been keeping up on the Favre saga.


“Damn, that’s their problem,” Williams said. “They’re going through all that as a team, trying to figure out if Favre or (Aaron) Rodgers was the man, while we’ve got the same team we had all offseason. I’m glad they got all that darn press, ‘cause when we go down there it’ll be the kid’s first start and his first damn loss.”


Williams, a 12th-year veteran, didn’t limit his enmity to Rodgers. He’s also gunning for Packers halfback Ryan Grant, who last year was the only player to rush for more than 100 yards against Minnesota, with 119 in a 34-0 Green Bay blowout at Lambeau last November.


“I’m going to try to crush all of ‘em,” Williams said. “That’s been the focus of my whole summer – the Green Bay Packers.”


Rest assured that Williams isn’t alone. All-Pro defensive end Jared Allen, acquired by the Vikings in an April trade with the Chiefs, has his own welcome-to-the-rivalry ritual in mind for Rodgers.


“Playing Green Bay on Monday night to start the season – that’s everything you want,” Allen said. “Hopefully, I can put my helmet square in the back of his spine. If I can do that and knock the ball loose, it’ll be a good day.”


For what it’s worth, Williams believes the Packers’ decision to choose Rodgers over Favre was a great development for the Vikings.


“They had a nice year last year, but they don’t understand that Brett made those guys better than they were,” Williams said. “He has the game all figured out, and you’ve got to factor all that into the equation. Brett Favre would throw the ball when the receivers hadn’t even made their cut yet, and it would be there waiting for them. Those guys had it good.


“People think it’s the system, but it ain’t no damn system. Brett Favre just knows where his guys are going to be at all times, and I don’t think Aaron Rodgers has got that yet.”


OK, that’s enough Rodgers bashing for today. It’s time for me to take my medicine

I booked a 2008 boat party under Pat William's name. Done Deal. On Lock.

[SMACKTALKIE]

Re: Pat Williams is Making Week One Even More Interesting!

Some Pat Williams smack talk. Obviously a biased take but coming from P.Williams makes it kind of funny. How do you guys and gals feel about it?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgR2xcvdgNZbmwrNOCZXuoBDubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday081208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Trippin’ Tuesday: More spice to Vikes-Pack rivalry

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

MANKATO, Minn. – Brett Favre is gone to the Big Apple, awash in a spin cycle of helicopter tours and glorious punishment laps and stream-of-consciousness musings about his latest life turn.


Meanwhile, back in the NFC North, the nasty rivalry the ex-Green Bay legend left behind is hotter than ever.


Between the quarterback’s abortive effort to land in Minnesota and the tampering charge the Packers filed against the Vikings, who were subsequently exonerated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, there’s a lot of lingering bitterness between the two franchises. Throw in the Pack’s status as a team that finished a game away from the Super Bowl last season and the near-universal coronation of the Vikes as the NFC’s trendy power-on-the-rise, and that Sept. 8 regular-season opener at Lambeau Field can’t come soon enough.


This was confirmed Sunday when I visited the Vikings’ training camp home at Minnesota State University and asked Pro Bowl nose tackle Pat Williams whether he’d been keeping up on the Favre saga.


“Damn, that’s their problem,” Williams said. “They’re going through all that as a team, trying to figure out if Favre or (Aaron) Rodgers was the man, while we’ve got the same team we had all offseason. I’m glad they got all that darn press, ‘cause when we go down there it’ll be the kid’s first start and his first damn loss.”


Williams, a 12th-year veteran, didn’t limit his enmity to Rodgers. He’s also gunning for Packers halfback Ryan Grant, who last year was the only player to rush for more than 100 yards against Minnesota, with 119 in a 34-0 Green Bay blowout at Lambeau last November.


“I’m going to try to crush all of ‘em,” Williams said. “That’s been the focus of my whole summer – the Green Bay Packers.”


Rest assured that Williams isn’t alone. All-Pro defensive end Jared Allen, acquired by the Vikings in an April trade with the Chiefs, has his own welcome-to-the-rivalry ritual in mind for Rodgers.


“Playing Green Bay on Monday night to start the season – that’s everything you want,” Allen said. “Hopefully, I can put my helmet square in the back of his spine. If I can do that and knock the ball loose, it’ll be a good day.”


For what it’s worth, Williams believes the Packers’ decision to choose Rodgers over Favre was a great development for the Vikings.


“They had a nice year last year, but they don’t understand that Brett made those guys better than they were,” Williams said. “He has the game all figured out, and you’ve got to factor all that into the equation. Brett Favre would throw the ball when the receivers hadn’t even made their cut yet, and it would be there waiting for them. Those guys had it good.


“People think it’s the system, but it ain’t no damn system. Brett Favre just knows where his guys are going to be at all times, and I don’t think Aaron Rodgers has got that yet.”


OK, that’s enough Rodgers bashing for today. It’s time for me to take my medicine

I booked a 2008 boat party under Pat William's name. Done Deal. On Lock.

Just make sure you ID any date Mark Chumura hooks you up with for the party.

That way you can avoid any bogus charges brought against you.

[Chevelle2]

Re: Pat Williams is Making Week One Even More Interesting!

Some Pat Williams smack talk. Obviously a biased take but coming from P.Williams makes it kind of funny. How do you guys and gals feel about it?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgR2xcvdgNZbmwrNOCZXuoBDubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday081208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Trippin’ Tuesday: More spice to Vikes-Pack rivalry

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports

MANKATO, Minn. – Brett Favre is gone to the Big Apple, awash in a spin cycle of helicopter tours and glorious punishment laps and stream-of-consciousness musings about his latest life turn.


Meanwhile, back in the NFC North, the nasty rivalry the ex-Green Bay legend left behind is hotter than ever.


Between the quarterback’s abortive effort to land in Minnesota and the tampering charge the Packers filed against the Vikings, who were subsequently exonerated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, there’s a lot of lingering bitterness between the two franchises. Throw in the Pack’s status as a team that finished a game away from the Super Bowl last season and the near-universal coronation of the Vikes as the NFC’s trendy power-on-the-rise, and that Sept. 8 regular-season opener at Lambeau Field can’t come soon enough.


This was confirmed Sunday when I visited the Vikings’ training camp home at Minnesota State University and asked Pro Bowl nose tackle Pat Williams whether he’d been keeping up on the Favre saga.


“Damn, that’s their problem,” Williams said. “They’re going through all that as a team, trying to figure out if Favre or (Aaron) Rodgers was the man, while we’ve got the same team we had all offseason. I’m glad they got all that darn press, ‘cause when we go down there it’ll be the kid’s first start and his first damn loss.”


Williams, a 12th-year veteran, didn’t limit his enmity to Rodgers. He’s also gunning for Packers halfback Ryan Grant, who last year was the only player to rush for more than 100 yards against Minnesota, with 119 in a 34-0 Green Bay blowout at Lambeau last November.


“I’m going to try to crush all of ‘em,” Williams said. “That’s been the focus of my whole summer – the Green Bay Packers.”


Rest assured that Williams isn’t alone. All-Pro defensive end Jared Allen, acquired by the Vikings in an April trade with the Chiefs, has his own welcome-to-the-rivalry ritual in mind for Rodgers.


“Playing Green Bay on Monday night to start the season – that’s everything you want,” Allen said. “Hopefully, I can put my helmet square in the back of his spine. If I can do that and knock the ball loose, it’ll be a good day.”


For what it’s worth, Williams believes the Packers’ decision to choose Rodgers over Favre was a great development for the Vikings.


“They had a nice year last year, but they don’t understand that Brett made those guys better than they were,” Williams said. “He has the game all figured out, and you’ve got to factor all that into the equation. Brett Favre would throw the ball when the receivers hadn’t even made their cut yet, and it would be there waiting for them. Those guys had it good.


“People think it’s the system, but it ain’t no damn system. Brett Favre just knows where his guys are going to be at all times, and I don’t think Aaron Rodgers has got that yet.”


OK, that’s enough Rodgers bashing for today. It’s time for me to take my medicine

I booked a 2008 boat party under Pat William's name. Done Deal. On Lock.

Just make sure you ID any date Mark Chumura hooks you up with for the party.

That way you can avoid any bogus charges brought against you.

I lived in the same neighborhood as Chewy when that whole thing went down. The general sentiment is that the girl made the whole thing up.

You should probably stick to talking about things you are more knowledgeable about.

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Maybe before #4 was traded.

I think AP is that good. I'd do the trade right now. Then, I'd throw Brohm into the fire or, try and get Simms from the Bucs.

But I do resent the term "retarded" to a post, even if the post is disagreeable.

Sorry for offending you and anyone else. Seems like an outrageous statement to me.

AP is a good runner yes but its not hard to make an argument that he's overrated.

How? Despite his injuries he has shown to be consistently one of the best in everything he has done, from HS to the pros now. In his first year in the pros, he was the biggest playmaker in the NFL. He was a threat to hit the home run every play.

He's a straight up stud. Best player in the NFC north by far.

[Maxie the Taxi]

If TT wanted Peterson, he could have traded up to get him. Anyone watching film of the guy in college knew he was head and shoulders above Marshawn Lynch or any of the rest. I don't think Lynch was even a high priority in the Packers' draft. TT and MM think you don't need to spend a high draft choice on a RB given their zone blocking scheme.

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I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I don't think I'd want to give them Rodgers and Jennings when Taylor can do just as good behind their line.

WHAT?!? When did Taylor command 9 men in the box every play?!? Give me a break. He set the all-time record for yards in a game, and was virtually unstoppable when healthy. Dude is a straight up stud.

[BallHawk]

I think AP is the best runner of the modern game. But that might just be me! At any rate, I think he's worth Jennings and A-Rod in a trade, easily. That amounts to a late first and second round pick. I think AP is worth more than that, frankly.

I think I'd rather have a staring lineup of Rodgers, Jennings, and Grant over Brohm, Jones, and Peterson.

I don't think I'd want to give them Rodgers and Jennings when Taylor can do just as good behind their line.

WHAT?!? When did Taylor command 9 men in the box every play?!? Give me a break. He set the all-time record for yards in a game, and was virtually unstoppable when healthy. Dude is a straight up stud.

Taylor rushed for 1200 yards in '06. That's the numbers that you need to win. Obviously, AP is bigger talent than Chester, but AP is not "by far" the best player in the NFC North. If you look in games where RBs were "shut down" AP was shut down 6 times (under 75 yards, 0 TDs) But then again he has games like he did against Chicago and San Diego where he just makes you awe at him. I'm not going to crown him the best player in the NFC North until he does it for another year. Just like I'm not going to crown Grant Top 10 RB until he does it for another year.