Anyone Remember?

[cpk1994]

I think you zero in on the WHOLE disagreement.

You think the Packers were wrong not to take Favre back.

I think it was their choice, and they did enough already to accomodate him.

The rest of the argument is just smoke.

Oh I agree it was their choice to a point. They didn't have unlimited options and they had Goodell helping them. I don't think they were wrong, I think they made a damn poor choice, that's all. The result of their choice is the stuff you're all pissed about.

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year? All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts. Then all you are left with is Brohm and Flynn who wouldn't have gotten any work done as 3rd and 4th strings. At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham. They made the absolutely corerect decision no matter what the consequences. Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

[The Leaper]

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year?

You cut him after the season...and make it perfectly clear that 2008 is a one and done as far as Green Bay is concerned.

All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts.

I don't see the guarantee. Does it make it far more likely? Sure. However, if Rodgers got the chance to start in 2009 and had success in Green Bay, why would he want to bolt town from a system he was comfortable in and where there was an abundance of young talent at WR?

At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham.

It postpones the inevitable...and gives you a REAL CHANCE at winning a Super Bowl in 2008 in the process. Having that kind of chance does not come around every year.

Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

So why don't you show the same vitrol toward Ryan Grant for not getting a deal done and allowing his agent to make a public stink in the press?

[Chevelle2]

It postpones the inevitable...and gives you a REAL CHANCE at winning a Super Bowl in 2008 in the process. Having that kind of chance does not come around every year.

Last 10 years:

3-7.

20 Turnovers.

[cpk1994]

So why don't you show the same vitrol toward Ryan Grant for not getting a deal done and allowing his agent to make a public stink in the press?

Because Grant showed committment to the team by being at the OTA's and not changing his mind every five minutres, didn't go on national TV and throw the organization under the bus, didn't say "gimmie my starting job back or release me", and didn't act like a complete ass as Favre did. Grant at least acted like a professional.

[mraynrand]

This thread shows the obvious: 1) A Brett Favre Room on this forum won't work because Favre will always be discussed in multiple forums and threads forever and 2) It's possible to have a back and forth discussion re: Favre without using expletives or personal attacks.

GAME, SET, MATCH! OWNED! (lol).

[Rastak]

I think you zero in on the WHOLE disagreement.

You think the Packers were wrong not to take Favre back.

I think it was their choice, and they did enough already to accomodate him.

The rest of the argument is just smoke.

Oh I agree it was their choice to a point. They didn't have unlimited options and they had Goodell helping them. I don't think they were wrong, I think they made a damn poor choice, that's all. The result of their choice is the stuff you're all pissed about.

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year? All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts. Then all you are left with is Brohm and Flynn who wouldn't have gotten any work done as 3rd and 4th strings. At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham. They made the absolutely corerect decision no matter what the consequences. Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

I totally agree with the first part but it hardly makes it 100% Rodgers bolts. There is a franchise tag still. Anyway, I agree you would have the theatrics for another year.

[cpk1994]

I think you zero in on the WHOLE disagreement.

You think the Packers were wrong not to take Favre back.

I think it was their choice, and they did enough already to accomodate him.

The rest of the argument is just smoke.

Oh I agree it was their choice to a point. They didn't have unlimited options and they had Goodell helping them. I don't think they were wrong, I think they made a damn poor choice, that's all. The result of their choice is the stuff you're all pissed about.

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year? All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts. Then all you are left with is Brohm and Flynn who wouldn't have gotten any work done as 3rd and 4th strings. At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham. They made the absolutely corerect decision no matter what the consequences. Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

I totally agree with the first part but it hardly makes it 100% Rodgers bolts. There is a franchise tag still. Anyway, I agree you would have the theatrics for another year.

I think it would have. Why would Rodgers want to play for a team that told him all summer that "You are trhe starter", and then at the last minute tells him "Sorry, we lied", thereby screwing him out of bonus money? You can franchise hi sure, but that will serve to piss off Rodgers even further. You're living in Oz if you think Rodgers wouldn't bolt if they brought Favre back.

[MadtownPacker]

Why do you want to get in the business of censoring people because they say upsetting things?

I gave you a good idea a few weeks ago: make a separate Brett Favre room. That way the bickering won't spill-over into all the threads, the way it is happenning now. Most people thought it was worth a try.

People are upset about the FAvre business, and they are going to continue to want to score points and squabble. Well, so what. Let them do it in a separate room that decent folk (like me & GBrulz) can avoid. Well, I'll probably go there and get a lick-in now and then.

Well, I guess you are going to do it your way, by PMing people with threats to behave. Damn, you ever ban me for one minute and it will be a lifetime ban, mother fucker.

Im not censoring anyone. My only concern is the long term outlook of this forum and those who frequent it and make the place what it is. When those poseters stop showing up here because of this crap then it is time for me to act. I will not allow some bickering babies to bring it down. I sent you a PM asking for your help and of course you spill my PERSONAL MESSAGE I sent you to all. No surprise.

If you dont like anything that goes down here you can bounce because you are no loss to me. And please save the "ban me and I wont come back BS". You are a sad and lonely old man who has nothing better to do and would just make another account. You know, like the other one you tried using before to start trouble.

I can tell secrets also Harlan, like the one about you working with former members of this forum to ruin intentionally this place. Someone turned on you and forwarded me the email with the discussion string about how you would bring PackerRats down and move everyone over to a different forum. How did that turn out you sorry son of a bitch? Deny it I dont care but dont pretend you care about what happens to this place.

Now comeback at me with your smartass comments and cries. Im use to it already.

[Rastak]

I think you zero in on the WHOLE disagreement.

You think the Packers were wrong not to take Favre back.

I think it was their choice, and they did enough already to accomodate him.

The rest of the argument is just smoke.

Oh I agree it was their choice to a point. They didn't have unlimited options and they had Goodell helping them. I don't think they were wrong, I think they made a damn poor choice, that's all. The result of their choice is the stuff you're all pissed about.

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year? All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts. Then all you are left with is Brohm and Flynn who wouldn't have gotten any work done as 3rd and 4th strings. At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham. They made the absolutely corerect decision no matter what the consequences. Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

I totally agree with the first part but it hardly makes it 100% Rodgers bolts. There is a franchise tag still. Anyway, I agree you would have the theatrics for another year.

I think it would have. Why would Rodgers want to play for a team that told him all summer that "You are trhe starter", and then at the last minute tells him "Sorry, we lied", thereby screwing him out of bonus money? You can franchise hi sure, but that will serve to piss off Rodgers even further. You're living in Oz if you think Rodgers wouldn't bolt if they brought Favre back.

If he shows he is the top QB he'd be the starter this year under that scenario. Like I said, I would have kept Rodgers on top of the depth chart to start camp. No reason he couldn't have stayed there if he was the better player.

[cpk1994]

I think you zero in on the WHOLE disagreement.

You think the Packers were wrong not to take Favre back.

I think it was their choice, and they did enough already to accomodate him.

The rest of the argument is just smoke.

Oh I agree it was their choice to a point. They didn't have unlimited options and they had Goodell helping them. I don't think they were wrong, I think they made a damn poor choice, that's all. The result of their choice is the stuff you're all pissed about.

So, if you take Favre back, what is to keep him from pulling the same shit next year? All you do by taking Favre back is guarantee Rodgers bolts. Then all you are left with is Brohm and Flynn who wouldn't have gotten any work done as 3rd and 4th strings. At best bringing Favre back only postpones the inevitable, not to mention the message you send to your team that one player is above everyone else and that "team committment" is a total sham. They made the absolutely corerect decision no matter what the consequences. Favre is not bigger than the team and I am damn proud of TT and M3 for finally standing up to that selfish diva.

I totally agree with the first part but it hardly makes it 100% Rodgers bolts. There is a franchise tag still. Anyway, I agree you would have the theatrics for another year.

I think it would have. Why would Rodgers want to play for a team that told him all summer that "You are trhe starter", and then at the last minute tells him "Sorry, we lied", thereby screwing him out of bonus money? You can franchise hi sure, but that will serve to piss off Rodgers even further. You're living in Oz if you think Rodgers wouldn't bolt if they brought Favre back.

If he shows he is the top QB he'd be the starter this year under that scenario. Like I said, I would have kept Rodgers on top of the depth chart to start camp. No reason he couldn't have stayed there if he was the better player.

Problem is, no one would ever believe he was the better player with Favre on the roster, even if he showed it clearly. Keeping Favre as a backup would have been the single dumbest thing McCarthy has ever done. They didn't need that distraction. ROdgers sure as hell didn't need it either.

[MadtownPacker]

This thread shows the obvious: 1) A Brett Favre Room on this forum won't work because Favre will always be discussed in multiple forums and threads forever and 2) It's possible to have a back and forth discussion re: Favre without using expletives or personal attacks.

GAME, SET, MATCH! OWNED! (lol).

See, it is that simple.

Thank you to all for working on this. The last thing I want to do is turn this place into a disinfected, operating room but we have to regulate ourselves at times. For the good of the forum.

[retailguy]

but we have to regulate ourselves at times.

NOOOOOOO!

Haven't you been paying attention? It is impossible for us to govern ourselves! We need a STRONG leader and a BIG government. Just ask any of the enlighted liberals around here. I suggest a 42 person "steering committee" made up solely of "enlighted liberals". You'll be sure to get a POV of the majority of folks in this forum. For God's sake, don't pick me, or Tex or Howard.... Bretsky is too wishy washy and Zool is too sarcastic. Bobblehead was dropped on his head as a child, and besides is too busy as the only other person other than Bob Barr who is working to get him elected. You can probably pick anybody else.

Your libertarian viewpoint won't fly with anyone around here, except maybe Bobblehead. Maybe.

In any event, who do you think you are, Ronald Reagan?

[Zool]

WELL I NEVER!

See if you get a Christmas card this year. Jerk.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

do people still believe that OJ did it??? i thought for sure america would have opened their eyes to the truth by now

this country has a long ways to go

ROFLMAO!!

[Bretsky]

but we have to regulate ourselves at times.

NOOOOOOO!

Haven't you been paying attention? It is impossible for us to govern ourselves! We need a STRONG leader and a BIG government. Just ask any of the enlighted liberals around here. I suggest a 42 person "steering committee" made up solely of "enlighted liberals". You'll be sure to get a POV of the majority of folks in this forum. For God's sake, don't pick me, or Tex or Howard.... Bretsky is too wishy washy and Zool is too sarcastic. Bobblehead was dropped on his head as a child, and besides is too busy as the only other person other than Bob Barr who is working to get him elected. You can probably pick anybody else.

Your libertarian viewpoint won't fly with anyone around here, except maybe Bobblehead. Maybe.

In any event, who do you think you are, Ronald Reagan?

I choose to call it politically correct instead of wishy washy