Article - My Apologies Mr. Rodgers

[Pacopete4]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.

No, no... its all taken in stride Zool... I am sick of the BS too, some which I have created. I don't want this forum to go any more south than it has been with some of the crap we've been pulling lately, so... time for a change


If Rodgers fails though.. you better ban me! haha just joking

[Tyrone Bigguns]

1. I responded to a pot shot..with a jab.
2. I hear your point about excessive response.
3. I rarely take pot shots at the person...you are much more guilty of taking potshots at me than i am of you. I rarely, if ever, just take a jab outta nowhere on someone.
4. If i counter, it is with logic and reason.
5. If you are sick of it...think about what has caused it. I have stayed out till very recently about the Favre stuff. That is what has caused quite a bit. Check my posts..i wasn't commenting much on favre pre trade..it was ridiculous and tiresome. I, like others, am tired of reading that shit..and now you are seeing me on it.

I pointed out to Paco that he was bringing this crap into the brewers forum. Ok, i'm responding..so that perpetuates it..but, like football...the instant replay clearly shows who is iniating this shit.

6. Police ourselves....ok, perhaps you could mention that to those that take potshots at me. Yourself, Retail (who openly said that it is ok for him to do so..because that is what we do..which, i said was fine..cause i'm a big boy..but, i never take potshots at him), Roark, Partial, etc. By potshot, i mean a post that insults the person without addressing that persons post.

You might consider leading by example.

I have yet to see you or anybody come down on Nutz or Skin..i cant' remember which..who was coming down hard on Gex or Paco..again can't remember which.

Self fulfilling prophesy with the short story I guess. The first paragraph was aimed at you because you are in the middle of these squabbles a large portion of the time. Your iPhone thread with Partial is ridiculous. I very much have come down on Partial, RG, Skin and Nutz in the past. The second paragraph was more of a broad stroke.

I take jabs at the people who specifically are trying to stir up trouble. You either didnt realize, or just didnt pay attention. There's a couple people who only come here to post shit. I have zero respect for pot stirrers. They get what they get. Its exactly what they are looking for, I know this, but its fun for me.

What I dont do is get into 6, 7, 15 page threads arguing minutia and spend my time here correcting everyone about shades of grey. I probably could have eliminated the first paragraph in my initial post but you have got to calm down with this internet persona of yours. Its turning people away and its my job to attempt to make that stop.

You do add good content to many threads, but you've brought on all of these jabs yourself by having your specific style. Its not like you got here and people started including you as someone who annoys them.

Paco is the same way. He starts good threads, then completely useless ones for reaction, so you're in a pot-kettle situation there calling him out specifically. "But Timmy did it too" doesnt fly in the adult world. If I took shots at you, they were in jest and you know that. We've never had anything bad between us that I recall.

Again I'll have to apologize for singling you out, but it holds true. This place is starting to slide downhill in a hurry and there's a small portion of the populace thats doing it.

Iphone: why? Who does it hurt? But, i answered this to Retail..you can read my answer there.

Jabs: No, i'm not talking about that. You have made jabs. Deny it. But, it is the truth. I can take it, but lead by example. If you think that i'm wrong..then call out what is wrong..but, to just take a shot because you think i'm being a know it all..is just a pot shot. I'm right, quite often.

I know they are in jest. But, if you don't think that it then creates an atmosphere..then you are in denial.

Paco: You are missing the point. It isn't a pot/kettle thing. I and others are FUCKING TIRED of the Favre thing, the constant arod bashing, etc. It infests every thread. And, it is on my nerves..and if they continue then they are gonna be called out.

ty: Not denying what you say, but i also think that in the past 4-6 months this forum has acquired some posters who are bringing out the worst. Ty was relatively benign for a long time. What changed?

[BallHawk]

And this thread is a prime example of why I don't read the Packer forum as much as I used to.

Mad wrote an article about what he saw. He wasn't presenting it as fact, just his personal observations. You know, maybe you agree with him, maybe you don't, but it's still a thread about the article he wrote.

Then the thread gets polluted with flaming and name-calling. And it all goes downhill. It's a shame to see this, because we used to have damn good discussions here. We still do, but more and more of it is being replaced with this time of petty fighting.

I hope we can get back to where we were, because if this stuff keeps up we're going to start losing members.

[Zool]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.

No, no... its all taken in stride Zool... I am sick of the BS too, some which I have created. I don't want this forum to go any more south than it has been with some of the crap we've been pulling lately, so... time for a change


If Rodgers fails though.. you better ban me! haha just joking

If Rodgers fails its on Rodgers and MM and Tedly, and quite possibly the guards with thumbs up each others asses.

Maybe a pre-emptive banning is in order? Nah, I think Aaron will be fine after the midway point this year. I expect a rocky road to start the season.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.

No, no... its all taken in stride Zool... I am sick of the BS too, some which I have created. I don't want this forum to go any more south than it has been with some of the crap we've been pulling lately, so... time for a change


If Rodgers fails though.. you better ban me! haha just joking

Rodgers: And, that is fine. Go ahead. I, nor anyone else is against that.

It is just the constant looking to bash him that is getting tired.

Think about it....what if i bashed Donald Driver every time i got the chance..you and others would be sick of it.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

And this thread is a prime example of why I don't read the Packer forum as much as I used to.

Mad wrote an article about what he saw. He wasn't presenting it as fact, just his personal observations. You know, maybe you agree with him, maybe you don't, but it's still a thread about the article he wrote.

Then the thread gets polluted with flaming and name-calling. And it all goes downhill. It's a shame to see this, because we used to have damn good discussions here. We still do, but more and more of it is being replaced with this time of petty fighting.

I hope we can get back to where we were, because if this stuff keeps up we're going to start losing members.

Ok. I hear you. I will work from my side.

I stopped reading in here and posting quite a bit during the whole pre trade thing....and now that the season is FINALLY here i would just like to talk packers.

I'm just fed up with the whole Favre lover/arod lover/favre hater/tt snake/etc.

[Pacopete4]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.

No, no... its all taken in stride Zool... I am sick of the BS too, some which I have created. I don't want this forum to go any more south than it has been with some of the crap we've been pulling lately, so... time for a change


If Rodgers fails though.. you better ban me! haha just joking

Rodgers: And, that is fine. Go ahead. I, nor anyone else is against that.

It is just the constant looking to bash him that is getting tired.

Think about it....what if i bashed Donald Driver every time i got the chance..you and others would be sick of it.

Can you stop yet?... Hate me all you want, but I'm done fighting with you so just talk about the subject or leave me outta the convo.. thank you

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Damn I dont mean to be so specific to say this to you Paco, its not just you. I don't mean this place to become some sort of fuckin Mary Poppins happy-go-lucky circle jerk, but its gone too far lately.

No, no... its all taken in stride Zool... I am sick of the BS too, some which I have created. I don't want this forum to go any more south than it has been with some of the crap we've been pulling lately, so... time for a change


If Rodgers fails though.. you better ban me! haha just joking

Rodgers: And, that is fine. Go ahead. I, nor anyone else is against that.

It is just the constant looking to bash him that is getting tired.

Think about it....what if i bashed Donald Driver every time i got the chance..you and others would be sick of it.

Can you stop yet?... Hate me all you want, but I'm done fighting with you so just talk about the subject or leave me outta the convo.. thank you

Dude, i was agreeing with you. When Arod fails..or if he fails...your complaints are more than welcome.

Hate: I don't hate anyone. I hate your bashing posts on arod/tt, but i dont' hate you. You have other times good posts that bring up valid points.

[BallHawk]

I'm just fed up with the whole Favre lover/arod lover/favre hater/tt snake/etc.

Everybody is. Because of the tension and the sides that were drawn by people during the Favre saga, people always view things as indirect shots at Favre/Aaron/Ted.

[Pacopete4]

Sorry Ty, misread that... but I think you should bash DD for not catching the damn ball lately, been really disappointing cuz I love Driver

[Zool]

Iphone: why? Who does it hurt? But, i answered this to Retail..you can read my answer there.

Jabs: No, i'm not talking about that. You have made jabs. Deny it. But, it is the truth. I can take it, but lead by example. If you think that i'm wrong..then call out what is wrong..but, to just take a shot because you think i'm being a know it all..is just a pot shot. I'm right, quite often.

I know they are in jest. But, if you don't think that it then creates an atmosphere..then you are in denial.

Paco: You are missing the point. It isn't a pot/kettle thing. I and others are FUCKING TIRED of the Favre thing, the constant arod bashing, etc. It infests every thread. And, it is on my nerves..and if they continue then they are gonna be called out.

ty: Not denying what you say, but i also think that in the past 4-6 months this forum has acquired some posters who are bringing out the worst. Ty was relatively benign for a long time. What changed?

Everyone is tired of the Favre thing from every angle. Some people still want to discuss him, others don't, and still others have a car-wreck curiosity about how he's doing. If you want to call them out then do so.

I take jabs at people, I said that. I also said, this isn't a kid friendly forum per-say. But this is not a pulpit for people to respond to another individuals every post. If you want to tell Paco to eat a pile of rabbit santorum, then do it, and leave it. Quality over quantity.

There's been people here that I would ban because they say stupid shit on a bi-minutely basis but that sets a bad precedence so it doesn't happen. Instead I skim every one of their posts just in case. Thats my role here as mod.

I like this place. Its a cool place to talk shit with people, and get all the Packer news I care to read condensed into one local. I don't want that to stop. And thats all I got to say about that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good write up; I have no issues pointing out AROD was not courteous to the fans. James Jones is a total class act; he made his tour around the state and was gracious to everybody.

You mean the same tour that Rodgers took last year? Rumors are he was gracious to everybody.

http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/05/01/2/

[Bretsky]

Good write up; I have no issues pointing out AROD was not courteous to the fans. James Jones is a total class act; he made his tour around the state and was gracious to everybody.

You mean the same tour that Rodgers took last year? Rumors are he was gracious to everybody.

http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/05/01/2/

I have no clue if it was the same tour or not; I just know Jones is very courteous and was that way when the Packer basketball team toured the state as well. With AROD, rumors are he recently told people to get on board or shut their mouths too ........sorry...don't have the link

Gosh for a tech savvy guy like yourself one would think you'd have the auto pop up box checked so you read your PM's

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm just fed up with the whole Favre lover/arod lover/favre hater/tt snake/etc.

Everybody is. Because of the tension and the sides that were drawn by people during the Favre saga, people always view things as indirect shots at Favre/Aaron/Ted.

True.

It has gotten to the point that you can't post anything without certain posters twisting it to take a shot.

Ty post seeing tt look both ways before crossing the road.

poster: God damn, tt...always being conservative, never pulls the trigger.

And, down the rabbit hole we go.

[Zool]

Its not an excuse for Aaron, but its understandable if he was pissed about how he played, or possibly coach ripped him a new one in the locker room. He needs to suck it up and play nice with the people who pay his salary, but I can understand if he screwed up and acted like he did. So long as he only does it on the road, he'll be fine.