Article - My Apologies Mr. Rodgers

[Bretsky]

I thought the article was thorough and well-written. I would personally be a little easier on Rodgers; he's under a lot more pressure than the other players mentioned, and given the abuse he got from some people the past few weeks, I could see where he'd be a bit cautious. Overall, though, it was a very useful contribution and I'm glad Mad wrote it.

I don't think anyone was against Mad's article. Since, i was one of the "combatants" on the thread..i can at least say that for me. I didn't read anybody else that appeared against it.

What i was against was taking Mad's article, which included some speculation, and using that against Arod. To say that because arod didn't sign autographs or acknowledge fans that he is classless or a bad person. He may very well be..but, some of the arod haters/favre lovers...will take any opportunity to bash him.

It is boring and repititive. And, it is/was driving me nuts. This isn't something new....it would be the same for anyone who posts that kinda shit time after time.

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

kind of goes both ways Tyrone; I can think of a few posters who look for every excuse in the world to pop in some anti Favre sarcasm and ridicule.

Personally, the two you mentioned would not even make my head shaking list that make me cringe. I just try to keep my emotions out of it; but to be honest I'm sure it's frustrating to many regardless of where things stand.

Hopefully Favre plays AROD in the SuperBowl; no matter how it turns out one would think that should make everybody happy. Plus we'd get a first rounder.

[bobblehead]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Its time for you guys to stop treating this forum like your personal verbal sparring ring. Its driving people away and making regular posters into casual readers.

Exactly. This is why I quit coming in here the first time for awhile. Looks like things haven't changed much. There are some real quality posters that hang here, but the verbal spats really get old and eventually force me to go elsewhere for Packer chat. I really don't want to leave again, but if people can't grow up and debate like adults I won't hesitate to leave again.

Please show me any chat site that doesn't occassionally devolve to potshots and spitting matches...it ain't out there.

I can show you one. I frequent an acoustic guitar site that doesn't permit ANY potshots or spitting matches. You get warned, then you get banned.

Actually I know of a forum also that gives a warning for a personal attack and you are gone if you do it again. 99% of the discussions are civil.

I belong to several other forums, one of them I help moderate, and this is by far the most uncivil of them all. It's not even close. I'm all for a spirited debate, but the name calling and cheap shots are totally uncalled for. You can definitely tell who the kids are and who the adults are around here.

This is by far the best forum I belong to simply because you have a lot of freedoms here. I think we have gotten a lot of new posters here since JSO switched their forums to the sportsbubbler, and also we have had a very difficult and painful couple of months with the loss of Brett Favre. I don't know any other Packer forum that is going to get extremely heated over this situation, and if it doesn't, it isn't much of a forum.

I agree with you 100% on this....now if we coud do something about monster long quote boxes.

[MJZiggy]

Just delete the parts you don't want remembering to leave the first [ quote] and the matching [/quote]

[bobblehead]

I thought the article was thorough and well-written. I would personally be a little easier on Rodgers; he's under a lot more pressure than the other players mentioned, and given the abuse he got from some people the past few weeks, I could see where he'd be a bit cautious. Overall, though, it was a very useful contribution and I'm glad Mad wrote it.

I don't think anyone was against Mad's article. Since, i was one of the "combatants" on the thread..i can at least say that for me. I didn't read anybody else that appeared against it.

What i was against was taking Mad's article, which included some speculation, and using that against Arod. To say that because arod didn't sign autographs or acknowledge fans that he is classless or a bad person. He may very well be..but, some of the arod haters/favre lovers...will take any opportunity to bash him.

It is boring and repititive. And, it is/was driving me nuts. This isn't something new....it would be the same for anyone who posts that kinda shit time after time.

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

Yea, til you get bothered 24/7 for an autograph or until everywhere you go people are going for a reaction don't knock the pro athletes.

In all my years of heckling baseball players only one ever responded to me. We were as near centerfield as the HHH would let us and we were wearing kirby puckett out. Calling him doughboy and fatty. At the end of the inning he caught a fly ball at the fence right in front of us and looked up. I still remember his words..."Which of you skinny guys wants to race me to the dugout?" We laughed and howled and loved kirby every since....but still hated the twins until milwaukee went to the NL.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I thought the article was thorough and well-written. I would personally be a little easier on Rodgers; he's under a lot more pressure than the other players mentioned, and given the abuse he got from some people the past few weeks, I could see where he'd be a bit cautious. Overall, though, it was a very useful contribution and I'm glad Mad wrote it.

I don't think anyone was against Mad's article. Since, i was one of the "combatants" on the thread..i can at least say that for me. I didn't read anybody else that appeared against it.

What i was against was taking Mad's article, which included some speculation, and using that against Arod. To say that because arod didn't sign autographs or acknowledge fans that he is classless or a bad person. He may very well be..but, some of the arod haters/favre lovers...will take any opportunity to bash him.

It is boring and repititive. And, it is/was driving me nuts. This isn't something new....it would be the same for anyone who posts that kinda shit time after time.

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

kind of goes both ways Tyrone; I can think of a few posters who look for every excuse in the world to pop in some anti Favre sarcasm and ridicule.

Personally, the two you mentioned would not even make my head shaking list that make me cringe. I just try to keep my emotions out of it; but to be honest I'm sure it's frustrating to many regardless of where things stand.

Hopefully Favre plays AROD in the SuperBowl; no matter how it turns out one would think that should make everybody happy. Plus we'd get a first rounder.

Hey, I wasn't saying that i was for those Favre idiots either. I've tried saying the same thing over and over...it is tiring to hear the bashing...favre, arod..or fucking tory humphrey. It doesn't matter.

Those two: well, i would say that those two before the favre drama...and the influx of new posters..or posters that were spurred to post by the favre drama.

I can pretty much tell you that every merlin post will eventually boil down to: TT sucks, arod was given the job, and nall was never given a chance.

SB: Sadly, i don't agree. Some people will not ever be happy.

[bobblehead]

Just delete the parts you don't want remembering to leave the first [ quote] and the matching

[/quote]

I know, was being a smart ass cuz nutz had that huge quote box before me.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I thought the article was thorough and well-written. I would personally be a little easier on Rodgers; he's under a lot more pressure than the other players mentioned, and given the abuse he got from some people the past few weeks, I could see where he'd be a bit cautious. Overall, though, it was a very useful contribution and I'm glad Mad wrote it.

I don't think anyone was against Mad's article. Since, i was one of the "combatants" on the thread..i can at least say that for me. I didn't read anybody else that appeared against it.

What i was against was taking Mad's article, which included some speculation, and using that against Arod. To say that because arod didn't sign autographs or acknowledge fans that he is classless or a bad person. He may very well be..but, some of the arod haters/favre lovers...will take any opportunity to bash him.

It is boring and repititive. And, it is/was driving me nuts. This isn't something new....it would be the same for anyone who posts that kinda shit time after time.

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

Yea, til you get bothered 24/7 for an autograph or until everywhere you go people are going for a reaction don't knock the pro athletes.

In all my years of heckling baseball players only one ever responded to me. We were as near centerfield as the HHH would let us and we were wearing kirby puckett out. Calling him doughboy and fatty. At the end of the inning he caught a fly ball at the fence right in front of us and looked up. I still remember his words..."Which of you skinny guys wants to race me to the dugout?" We laughed and howled and loved kirby every since....but still hated the twins until milwaukee went to the NL.

I would tend to agree.

My point is that you really can't draw much of a conclusion based on an instance. I certainly wouldn't think arod/favre or anybody else was good or bad/classless because of one instance.

Fuck, i've been in bad moods and not wanted to deal with people. I certainly can expect that of others.

[bobblehead]

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

You comprehend woody's posts? Sorry unwarranted potshot of the very nature we are trying to stop, but I couldn't resist.

[Deputy Nutz]

Just delete the parts you don't want remembering to leave the first [ quote] and the matching

I know, was being a smart ass cuz nutz had that huge quote box before me.[/quote]

I would like to quote somebody right in the box.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

How tiring is it to read the same post by woody or merlin that despite whatever the rest of the post is about eventually all ties back into...TT sucks and he blew it.

You comprehend woody's posts? Sorry unwarranted potshot of the very nature we are trying to stop, but I couldn't resist.

You gotta run'em thru babelfish!

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

[gex]

TB - Can wyou please not trash this thread? Just this one? Please.

Thank you

Trash it...shouldn't you be saying that to the person that is trashing me. Retail takes his potshots at me whenever he can. Do you not acknowledge that?

I don't trash threads...no more than any other poster.

I have presented logical and sound arguments.

Its time for you guys to stop treating this forum like your personal verbal sparring ring. Its driving people away and making regular posters into casual readers.

Exactly. This is why I quit coming in here the first time for awhile. Looks like things haven't changed much. There are some real quality posters that hang here, but the verbal spats really get old and eventually force me to go elsewhere for Packer chat. I really don't want to leave again, but if people can't grow up and debate like adults I won't hesitate to leave again.

Please show me any chat site that doesn't occassionally devolve to potshots and spitting matches...it ain't out there.

I can show you one. I frequent an acoustic guitar site that doesn't permit ANY potshots or spitting matches. You get warned, then you get banned.

Actually I know of a forum also that gives a warning for a personal attack and you are gone if you do it again. 99% of the discussions are civil.

I belong to several other forums, one of them I help moderate, and this is by far the most uncivil of them all. It's not even close. I'm all for a spirited debate, but the name calling and cheap shots are totally uncalled for. You can definitely tell who the kids are and who the adults are around here.

This is by far the best forum I belong to simply because you have a lot of freedoms here. I think we have gotten a lot of new posters here since JSO switched their forums to the sportsbubbler, and also we have had a very difficult and painful couple of months with the loss of Brett Favre. I don't know any other Packer forum that is going to get extremely heated over this situation, and if it doesn't, it isn't much of a forum.

I agree with you 100% on this....now if we coud do something about monster long quote boxes.

QFT

[MJZiggy]

Which one? You just quoted 10 people?

[gex]

The last two, but I really want the worlds longest quotebox ever.
(if they're gonna go away that is)

[MJZiggy]

You don't hold a quotebox candle to Ty and the boys in the RR...