GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT BRETT/GB BRASS (IDIOTS)

[MOBB DEEP]

i very much enjoyed reading jet's fans thread on gb fan's reaction to the brett debacle/recent developments in jet and packer camps

its's on their message board (TheGangGreen.com) and titled "Green Bay fan reaction"

i dont know how to post threads from other forums on this forum (or if it's even possible), so if someone knows how please do it for our enjoyment

otherwise, as most should know, anyone can go to the board and read threads w/o registering

warning: TT apologists may cringe a lil, altho there are diverse opinions....

[Bretsky]

why don't you go to the url at the top of PC showing the url...web address.

Left click on it and highlight at all; right click and hit copy.

Come in here and paste and we'll be able to click on and read

[HarveyWallbangers]

Or how about we move on?

[GBRulz]

how about if you don't like the subject, ignore the thread.

[Jimx29]

Or how about we move on?

In 16 years perhaps

http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=34743

[MOBB DEEP]

Or how about we move on?

harv...

[MOBB DEEP]

Or how about we move on?

In 16 years perhaps



http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=34743

thanks buddy...pretty easy i guess

[PackerTimer]

He's gone. All of the posts and whining won't make it any different. Get over it.

[gex]

Thanx for the link

[BallHawk]

If we have to deal with this the whole year I'm going to get a personal army from /b/ to raid your asses.

[gex]

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[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm overcome with emotion.

Please stop with the brett favre sugar...i'm getting diabetes.

[hoosier]

This was on page 2, It brought a little tear to my eye.
Posted by teri b:

With Brett Favre, Are People Forgetting a Legend?

I never really understood the word “fickle,” so I finally looked it up in the dictionary:

Fickle: (adj) not constant or loyal.

I don’t think there could have been a more appropriate word to describe the comeback of Brett Favre.

No, I am not referring to Brett Favre himself as being fickle; I am referring to the fans of football, the front office of the Green Bay Packers, and most surprisingly, those diehard Packer fans that donned No. 4 on their backs every Sunday, watching their so-called “hero” give his all to get a victory for, not only his team, but to his fans as well.

Every football fan out there knew Brett was all about the game. You never heard about Brett demanding more money or going to jail—Brett stayed out of the public eye unless it had something to do with the game he loved most.

After Brett Favre retired in March of 2008, football fans everywhere hung their head and showed not only appreciation for one of the league’s most valuable players, but respect. He was a legend, a man in his own league, a man that had so much class and dignity, you could see it through a television screen.

I watched his tearful retirement and got a little teary myself, as I knew that HE knew he wasn’t quite ready to throw in the towel, but he did it because he didn’t know if he could give 100 percent to the Green Bay Packers; let’s face it, 100 percent is the only thing Brett Favre knew how to give.

But could he really let the last play he ever made be an interception?

Some of us might be okay with that being our last play, knowing we would still be going down as one of the greatest QBs of all time, but some of us, most of us, do not have the competitiveness that Favre has.

"Competitiveness alone won't win games, but when someone has some skill and then has competitiveness, they have a chance to be good," Irvin Favre, Brett’s father once said. "I knew Brett had a chance. I just did not know what he would do with it."

Many football fans, mainly GB ones, were irate at Favre for wanting to be traded to the Minnesota Vikings, calling him selfish and a traitor.

Wasn’t it Brett Favre that spoke openly about the Packers being his No. 1 team to play for? So Favre finally spoke out and said, “If you won’t let me play for you, let me play against you.”

Selfish? No. Competitive? Yes. There is a difference. And that difference is what sets him apart from many athletes today.

Brett Favre played 16 seasons with the Packers. During his time in Green Bay, he won three consecutive AP MVP awards—the first and only person in NFL history to do so.

He has led the Packers to 11 postseason appearances, including seven division crowns, four NFC Championship games, two Super Bowls, and he won Super Bowl XXXI. He ranks first all-time with 160 victories, and also in virtually every significant passing category.

Back in March of 2004, Brett was chosen as the No. 1 “Toughest Guy in America” on the basis of his “fearlessness, perseverance, a willingness to take a risk, a tolerance for pain, and even a dash of modesty." That was four years ago, and now people are saying he is “too old to play the game?”

Funny how just a year ago, fans everywhere were singing a different tune.

I wasn’t aware that after retiring, one of the greatest athletes of all time would be ridiculed for wanting to come back and play for the team, the game, and the fans he loved most. Unfortunately, his comeback was not as welcomed as one would have hoped.

He was criticized left and right and was made to feel like more of an inconvenience than a man who dedicated half of his life to the Packers. A man that has started in 253 consecutive games for Green Bay. A man that, learning of his father’s death the night before, took the field and passed for a total of 399 yards and four touchdowns, crediting it all to his Dad:

"I knew that my dad would have wanted me to play," Favre said. "I love him so much, and I love this game. It's meant a great deal to me, to my dad, to my family, and I didn't expect this kind of performance. But I know he was watching tonight."

He is a man who chooses to play with his heart, no matter what the circumstances are, even if it meant walking away from the team he honored more than most of us will ever know.

On Mar. 4, 2008, Favre formally announced his retirement. Favre’s agent, Bus Cook, believed that Favre had not received the impression from the Packers that they wanted him back.

Would he still have retired had he felt different?

I guess we will never know, but what is clear is where the disloyalty came from in the Packers front office: Ted Thompson. Favre released this statement about his former boss:

“It’s hard for me to, you know, trust, you know, this guy when I...either I’m told one thing and everyone else is told another, or he’s telling the public one thing and telling me another. And so...that’s part of the reason for requesting the release. Not only was I told that playing here was not an option, we’re moving on—it’s kind of in their company line, moving on. That’s OK.”

Brett knew he wasn't wanted, so he did what many feared most and filed for reinstatement with the NFL. His petition was soon granted by Commissioner Goodell. Brett was traded to the New York Jets and was no longer a Green Bay Packer.

But, being the class act he is, Favre left Green Bay with these words, "I always wanted to be a Packer," he said. "I think I'll always be a Packer. People will say it was the best 16 years. I think it was made clear this offseason that they were moving forward—that's OK —it's time for me to move forward."

Only time will tell if one of football’s greatest athletes will succeed in New York. It still feels so wrong to be writing Brett Favre and New York Jets in the same sentence. But what feels right is that Brett is on that field again.

He is following the one thing many of us are too scared to follow because of the risk: He is following his heart.

And that is why he will always be a hero. A hero on and off the field and a hero within. Good luck Brett. You truly are an inspiration to athletes everywhere.

[PackerTimer]

Was that article about Brett Favre or Mother Theresa. What a saint.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Was that article about Brett Favre or Mother Theresa. What a saint.

Favre.

Mother Theresa never threw into triple coverage.