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    Packers Team Report
    6/16/2006

    By Tom Silverstein
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel


    PERSONNEL ANALYSIS: There isn't a lot of playing time to be had in the interior of the defensive line, but former Giants DT Kenderick Allen is making a push to get into the rotation. The enormous Allen reported to the first mini-camp at a hefty 341 pounds but has dropped 16 since then and has shown great power at the point of attack. The 6-5 Allen is best suited for nose tackle, but with DTs Ryan Pickett and Colin Cole ahead of him he'll also play the three-technique and could find playing time there, especially on passing downs. His ability to push the pocket will get him a long look this summer. . . .

    Don't be surprised to see the club go with two halfbacks on certain occasions. Both Najeh Davenport and Noah Herron have the ability to fill the fullback position and could team with either Ahman Green or Samkon Gado in the same backfield. The fullback will have some ball-carrying responsibilities and the prospect of putting two running threats on the field at the same time is somewhat intriguing. However, neither Davenport nor Herron are as accomplished in blocking as FBs William Henderson and Vonta Leach.

    SCOUTING REPORT: DT Corey Williams doesn't stand out as an athlete. But as a competitor he's top-flight, and that's what is keeping him around. He is in the mix for a starting tackle job because he won't give up. He's powerful but not dominant, and he pursues well but isn't tremendously quick. His pass-rushing techniques need to improve because he's not going to overwhelm opposing tackles with his ability. He will, however, get sacks on pure hustle.

    REHAB UPDATE: Don't be surprised if LB Brady Poppinga is ready to go in training camp. Just six months removed from a torn ACL, he is nearing full strength. He won't be allowed on the field until sometime during camp because it would be foolish to risk re-injury, but it looks as if Poppinga will be ready by the start of the season. There's a good chance he'll be the starter on the strong side given his outstanding rookie season when he led the team in special teams tackles and began contributing at linebacker late in the year. Though undersized, he is explosive and aggressive, which is what the coaches require from their linebackers.

    TACKLES ANALYSIS: A-minus. Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher are anchors and keep QB Brett Favre from taking a lot of direct hits.
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    Thanks Motife. Two good reads.
    Formerly known as "Jeffro66".

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    • #3
      Running and other activities are okay but competitive training camp environment is hard on the ACL. Poppinga will be at risk for awhile.
      His injury was in December an it is normally a year to heal. I don't want to see him re-injured. Many players have come back too early.

      Allen an the other DT's had to show enough for Washington to be cut(some will say that isn't much).

      Some cuts at RB and DB will hurt this year.

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      • #4
        "There's a good chance he'll be the starter on the strong side given his outstanding rookie season when he led the team in special teams tackles and began contributing at linebacker late in the year."

        WOW. haven't really heard this sort of prediction from anyone yet. I liked what i saw of him before his injury; my fingers are crossed that he pans out...has more potential than ben taylor does IMO
        "In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

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        • #5
          Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

          Originally posted by motife
          Packers Team Report
          Don't be surprised to see the club go with two halfbacks on certain occasions. Both Najeh Davenport and Noah Herron have the ability to fill the fullback position and could team with either Ahman Green or Samkon Gado in the same backfield. The fullback will have some ball-carrying responsibilities and the prospect of putting two running threats on the field at the same time is somewhat intriguing. However, neither Davenport nor Herron are as accomplished in blocking as FBs William Henderson and Vonta Leach.

          .
          I mentioned this in a post a while back, although it was purely speculation, it will give opposing D something to consider if you've got 2 or possibly 3 RB's in the backfield at once.

          Imagine that with a few effective runs and then some play action/bootleg rollouts........

          That would be sahweeeeet!!
          "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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          • #6
            how about we install the wishbone with noah herron, najeh davenport, and ahman green...WHO THE HELL GETS THE BALL SO TRICKY
            "In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

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            • #7
              Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

              Originally posted by motife
              By Tom Silverstein
              There's a good chance he'll be the starter on the strong side given his outstanding rookie season when he led the team in special teams tackles and began contributing at linebacker late in the year.
              I thought Poppinga looked pretty good on special teams too, but I would be shocked if he is a starter at the beginning of the season! He has so little experience, and his knee is still vulnerable. I think there's a much better chance Pop is a PUP than a starter come Sept 10. This is why we brought in a veteran. The Pack should start Taylor and bring Pop back slowly. If all goes well Taylor may be a one-year stop-gap until Pop, Hodge, Manning, etc are ready for prime time.

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              • #8
                Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

                Originally posted by motife
                Packers Team Report
                6/16/2006

                By Tom Silverstein
                Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel


                Though undersized, he is explosive and aggressive, which is what the coaches require from their linebackers.
                Undersized? Poppinga? He's listed at 6'3" 245 - the largest LB on this team.

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                • #9
                  Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

                  Originally posted by Willard
                  Taylor may be a one-year stop-gap until Pop, Hodge, Manning, etc are ready for prime time.
                  What about Hawk and Barnett?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

                    Originally posted by retailguy
                    Originally posted by Willard
                    Taylor may be a one-year stop-gap until Pop, Hodge, Manning, etc are ready for prime time.
                    What about Hawk and Barnett?
                    My "dream" starting trio of LB's would be Roy Manning, Brady Poppinga and Kurt Campbell, with Hawk, Barnett, Hodge and Taylor providing depth.
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                    • #11
                      Motife, you have some bizarre dreams.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Re: Tom Silverstein : Sporting News Packer report 6/16/06

                        Originally posted by Willard
                        I thought Poppinga looked pretty good on special teams too, but I would be shocked if he is a starter at the beginning of the season! He has so little experience, and his knee is still vulnerable. I think there's a much better chance Pop is a PUP than a starter come Sept 10. This is why we brought in a veteran. The Pack should start Taylor and bring Pop back slowly. If all goes well Taylor may be a one-year stop-gap until Pop, Hodge, Manning, etc are ready for prime time.
                        I agree.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #13
                          I don't know why you guys would be surprised if Poppinga started... He's big, tough, and fast - and, if healthy he should be on the field.

                          What he lacks in experience at the LB position he makes up for with his other positives. Yes, he will make some mistakes and be out of position from time to time, but his upside is enough to justify allowing him to learn on the job.

                          Where Chistl gets the idea that Poppinga is "undersized" is beyond me. He's the biggest LB on the roster, and played DE at BYU.

                          My LB corp is: Hawk, Hodge, Poppinga...

                          Of course, reality says it will be: Hawk, Barnett, Taylor.
                          wist

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                          • #14
                            Maybe he meant undersized for a DE. Silverstein sometimes doesn't seem to take his moonlighting very seriously.

                            The detriment to Poppinga starting is if he doesn't get camp time at full speed and in all drills. I don't think he starts unless he participates in most of camp. Just a gut feeling for a defense that stesses precision and execution.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              Where Chistl gets the idea that Poppinga is "undersized" is beyond me.
                              Silverstein. Not Christl.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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