Where are the A-Rod Haters -- Part 3?

[Pugger]

I haven't seen it on this forum, but on other boards I've seen posts by some idiots hoping Aaron and/or the Pack fails! These creaps want the Packers to lose so the Executive Committee will be forced to fire TT and MM. Most of us weren't all that wild about Brett being traded but most of us are Packers fans first and want the team to win. One thug on the Press-Gazette forum hopes someone will break Aaron's leg!! How outrageous is that??

[boiga]

I missed the game, but it sounds like AROL played awesome. To be honest I'm not going to be high or low on him until probably halfway into the regular season and I do my best to keep an even keel about him.

Awesome is probably a bit of an overstatement. Rodgers came into this game with the primary intent of avoiding risk. He checked down rather than risk a long ball, he never held onto the ball waiting for an opening, and he dinked and dunked the entire half.

The only reason that this worked was because B-Jack, Jenning, Martin, and some others made tremendous second efforts to turn those check downs into first downs. In a regular season game, that kind of timidity would be our downfall because the opposing D would start crowding in over the course of the game. Rodgers will have to air it out a little more frequently to keep the other team honest. Some risks are worth taking, but he'll need more in game experience before he can make those kind of judgments reliably.

[pbmax]

I don't mind the sniping, some of you are quite funny while being just a little snide and mean. Others substitute emotion and bile; those are not as much fun.

I just wish we could come up with something besides haters and lovers. Perhaps:

For Rodgers Supporters: Prefer Upside Spirited Singleminded Youth

For Favre Supporters or People Concerned Over This Year's Super Bowl Window - Prefer Adult Nervy Sagacious Yokel



And if those acronyms need to be in the Romer Room or GC, then just delete this post Mods. Just jokes.

[MJZiggy]

Jokes have a tendency to be funny sometimes.

[pbmax]

Not always, though?

Jokes have a tendency to be funny sometimes.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I missed the game, but it sounds like AROL played awesome. To be honest I'm not going to be high or low on him until probably halfway into the regular season and I do my best to keep an even keel about him.

Awesome is probably a bit of an overstatement. Rodgers came into this game with the primary intent of avoiding risk. He checked down rather than risk a long ball, he never held onto the ball waiting for an opening, and he dinked and dunked the entire half.

The only reason that this worked was because B-Jack, Jenning, Martin, and some others made tremendous second efforts to turn those check downs into first downs. In a regular season game, that kind of timidity would be our downfall because the opposing D would start crowding in over the course of the game. Rodgers will have to air it out a little more frequently to keep the other team honest. Some risks are worth taking, but he'll need more in game experience before he can make those kind of judgments reliably.

You do realize that the reason it worked is exactly what the west coast is suppose to do...second efforts by the receiver.

That ain't timidity..that is the game plan. How many times did Montana launch bombs.

And, if you are correct that the D will crowd...excellent..then we beat them with a slant or a bomb.

[boiga]

I don't think you are wrong Ty.

My point was just that this wasn't a jaw dropping "awesome" performance by Rodgers. His stats were great because he played safe and the receivers made plays, but Rodgers was merely "very good." If he can maintain this level consistently for the rest of his career, we should all be satisfied. However, it would make him a journeyman caliber QB and not the HOF'er that some of us are hoping he develops into.

[Chevelle2]

I don't think you are wrong Ty.

My point was just that this wasn't a jaw dropping "awesome" performance by Rodgers. His stats were great because he played safe and the receivers made plays, but Rodgers was merely "very good." If he can maintain this level consistently for the rest of his career, we should all be satisfied. However, it would make him a journeyman caliber QB and not the HOF'er that some of us are hoping he develops into.

Journey men QBs have 120 QB ratings in games?

[MJZiggy]

I think the dinking and dunking was more intended to allow him to get into a rhythm. I think once he's more difficult to stop while dinking and dunking is when they start to set him loose a bit more. I think the idea is to let him start with something he can have success with and build consistency on first.

[Bossman641]

I don't think you are wrong Ty.

My point was just that this wasn't a jaw dropping "awesome" performance by Rodgers. His stats were great because he played safe and the receivers made plays, but Rodgers was merely "very good." If he can maintain this level consistently for the rest of his career, we should all be satisfied. However, it would make him a journeyman caliber QB and not the HOF'er that some of us are hoping he develops into.

I'd rather Rodgers take what the defense is giving him rather than force a deep ball for the hell of it.

You wait until the defense jumps on the short stuff, then you go over the top.

[boiga]

Journey men QBs have 120 QB ratings in games?

Yes they can. In fact the only way to consistently get high QB rating is to dink and dunk with high completion percentage throws and never attempt a long ball. That's the biggest reason that QB rating is a worthless stat.

I think the dinking and dunking was more intended to allow him to get into a rhythm. I think once he's more difficult to stop while dinking and dunking is when they start to set him loose a bit more. I think the idea is to let him start with something he can have success with and build consistency on first.

I agree heartily. I guess I'm just a little worried that this high emphasis on consistency and minimizing risk will make Rodgers hesitate on a crucial game winning deep pass because of how much slack he would get should it be intercepted.

I'm just looking forward to when Rodgers has the confidence to take some risks and win a game through a spectacular high risk throw.

[rbaloha1]

Great feedback and more objectivity about A-Rod performances.

Granted it was preseason. Granted the Broncos played a soft zone and blitzed much less than 49ers but what this game showed was:

1. Good tempo and rhythm by the offense.
2. Good pass blocking.
3. Good leadership by AR.
4. Sharp, accurate and crisp throws.
5. AR continues to throw the ball away if the receiver is covered especially in the red zone.
6. Greg Jennings is ready.

As other posters mentioned the regular season is the true test.

Others are concerned if AR is a hall of famer or a journeyman. IMO its irrelevant since the team is designed around an efficient qb rather than a superstar qb.

[Partial]

I think the dinking and dunking was more intended to allow him to get into a rhythm. I think once he's more difficult to stop while dinking and dunking is when they start to set him loose a bit more. I think the idea is to let him start with something he can have success with and build consistency on first.

smart lady.

[Lurker64]

I think the dinking and dunking was more intended to allow him to get into a rhythm. I think once he's more difficult to stop while dinking and dunking is when they start to set him loose a bit more. I think the idea is to let him start with something he can have success with and build consistency on first.

smart lady.

Well, that is the theory of the West Coast offense you run short and horizontal high percentage passes which stretch the defense out, which both opens up running lanes and deeper passes. "Dinking of dunking" might be to get Rodgers into rhythm, but it might be that, at the core of it, this is how the WCO is supposed to operate. You break the predictability of "run for short distances, pass for long distances" by passing for short distances, which sets up runs for long distances, and the defense reacting to both sets up passes for long distances and runs for short distances.

So if Rodgers starts a game by throwing a ton of short complete passes that move the ball and march down the field, eventually scoring a TD, I would just say he's running the offense properly.

[Bretsky]

I don't mind the sniping, some of you are quite funny while being just a little snide and mean. Others substitute emotion and bile; those are not as much fun.

I just wish we could come up with something besides haters and lovers. Perhaps:

For Rodgers Supporters: Prefer Upside Spirited Singleminded Youth

For Favre Supporters or People Concerned Over This Year's Super Bowl Window - Prefer Adult Nervy Sagacious Yokel



And if those acronyms need to be in the Romer Room or GC, then just delete this post Mods. Just jokes.

How about he Favre Supporters are the

Guys that want the great one night stand

And the Rodgers supporters are the

Chick or Guy who wants the serious long term relationship