Aaron Rodgers QB Rating through three pre-season games is 92.3 which ranks him 6th in the league. There are some strange names on the list for all the obvious pre-season reasons. Don't know how much it means but there are a lot worse places to be on that list other than 6th.
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QB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB. Favre was one of the best at the first 2, not so good at the third, thus he was exceptional, just short of all time greatness (my opinion). If Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by bobbleheadQB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB. Favre was one of the best at the first 2, not so good at the third, thus he was exceptional, just short of all time greatness (my opinion). If Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
I suppose if ignorance is bliss, you must be one of the most "blissfull" chumps on the planet.
Time and again, ignorant bastards such as you, point at Favre's interception record as if it were something to be ashamed of. Nevermind that it took Favre THREE TIMES AS MANY PASSING ATTEMPTS as the previous record holder to take the record.
a few things from this article:
"The key to breaking a career record, good or bad, is you need to be around long enough to break it. The average career of an NFL player, according to the NFL player's association, is four seasons."
"Of the other four quarterbacks ranked in the top five on the career interception list, three are in the NFL Hall of Fame. And, fans shouldn't be surprised about that. After all, the only players that are going to be on this list are the good players. That's because if a quarterback is lousy, they aren't going to be playing long enough to challenge for this title. Teams want to win and don't forgive mistakes easily."
If anything, if Favre returns next season and does break the interception mark, he should wear it as a badge of honor. Being the all-time leader in that category is basically saying "I'm so good; I can make mistakes and still keep my job."
Yeah, and if he ever plays long enough for the third, he will be one of the greatest.Originally posted by bobbleheadIf Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
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We aren't looking for Rodgers to set records. I would trade all of Favres records for a few more SBs.Originally posted by PackerBluesOriginally posted by bobbleheadQB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB. Favre was one of the best at the first 2, not so good at the third, thus he was exceptional, just short of all time greatness (my opinion). If Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
I suppose if ignorance is bliss, you must be one of the most "blissfull" chumps on the planet.
Time and again, ignorant bastards such as you, point at Favre's interception record as if it were something to be ashamed of. Nevermind that it took Favre THREE TIMES AS MANY PASSING ATTEMPTS as the previous record holder to take the record.
a few things from this article:
"The key to breaking a career record, good or bad, is you need to be around long enough to break it. The average career of an NFL player, according to the NFL player's association, is four seasons."
"Of the other four quarterbacks ranked in the top five on the career interception list, three are in the NFL Hall of Fame. And, fans shouldn't be surprised about that. After all, the only players that are going to be on this list are the good players. That's because if a quarterback is lousy, they aren't going to be playing long enough to challenge for this title. Teams want to win and don't forgive mistakes easily."
If anything, if Favre returns next season and does break the interception mark, he should wear it as a badge of honor. Being the all-time leader in that category is basically saying "I'm so good; I can make mistakes and still keep my job."
Yeah, and if he ever plays long enough for the third, he will be one of the greatest.Originally posted by bobbleheadIf Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
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Originally posted by bobbleheadQB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB.
I don't buy your "QB rating is useless" argument, but I'll concede the point if you can do a couple of things for me:
1) Show me a crappy QB that led the league in QB rating over 1 year.
2) Show me a great QB that trailed the league in QB rating over 1 year.
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Thanx for the name calling and logical well thought out arguement, didn't I say favre was exceptional?? If you are saying he doesn't turn the ball over too much, well.....Originally posted by PackerBluesOriginally posted by bobbleheadQB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB. Favre was one of the best at the first 2, not so good at the third, thus he was exceptional, just short of all time greatness (my opinion). If Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
I suppose if ignorance is bliss, you must be one of the most "blissfull" chumps on the planet.
Time and again, ignorant bastards such as you, point at Favre's interception record as if it were something to be ashamed of. Nevermind that it took Favre THREE TIMES AS MANY PASSING ATTEMPTS as the previous record holder to take the record.
a few things from this article:
"The key to breaking a career record, good or bad, is you need to be around long enough to break it. The average career of an NFL player, according to the NFL player's association, is four seasons."
"Of the other four quarterbacks ranked in the top five on the career interception list, three are in the NFL Hall of Fame. And, fans shouldn't be surprised about that. After all, the only players that are going to be on this list are the good players. That's because if a quarterback is lousy, they aren't going to be playing long enough to challenge for this title. Teams want to win and don't forgive mistakes easily."
If anything, if Favre returns next season and does break the interception mark, he should wear it as a badge of honor. Being the all-time leader in that category is basically saying "I'm so good; I can make mistakes and still keep my job."
Yeah, and if he ever plays long enough for the third, he will be one of the greatest.Originally posted by bobbleheadIf Arod can be good at 2 of three he will be damn good.
Anyway, try to check the emotion at the door next time you respond to me so you don't sound like an assclown.
That out of the way I agree with everything you said that wasn't an insult to me, what did I say to make you think I wouldn't? I was complementing favre not insulting him....but an idiot probably couldn't see that.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Nice post bobblehead. It still amazes me how much the Favre lovers will do to defend him even when you are praising him.
I'll put it out right here. I wish Favre was still our QB this year. He played exceptionally well in 2007.
That being said I think he handled his side of the deal like a complete ass and I am know why the Packers had to remove him from the team. ARod is our QB and I think we are going to have a very interesting year.
There are going to be a lot of ups and downs. But for the organization ARod was the "right" pick this year. I remember the teams from the 70s and 80s and hope we don't sink to that level again.
I have faith that TT has once again stocked the shelves in GB with quality players with good depth.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Without doing a ton of research I believe Danny White was the all time leader in QB rating at one point in his career (after several seasons).Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by bobbleheadQB rating is useless. show me a QB who converts 3rd and 5, show me a guy who gets it into the endzone once we acheive the redzone, show me a guy who doesnt' turn it over and that is how I judge a QB.
I don't buy your "QB rating is useless" argument, but I'll concede the point if you can do a couple of things for me:
1) Show me a crappy QB that led the league in QB rating over 1 year.
2) Show me a great QB that trailed the league in QB rating over 1 year.
I admit I may have overstated "useless". It has some limited uses, but that rating is dependent on what type offense a team runs, what is asked of you ect ect. Elway had a piss poor QB rating thru the early part of his career.
elway: 5 super bowls, 2 wins career QB rating: 80.0
Danny White: 0 super bowls career QB rating 81.7
Useless might be an overstatement, but not quite accurate assessment is pretty fair.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Ok, quick google noted that as of the end of 2004, aaron brooks was number 22 all time QB rated....ahead of....
Aikeman
Moon
Star
tarkenton
fouts
elway
And I didn't feel like looking further, but you get my point.
PS, Kurt warner was the all time leader in QB rating at that point in time.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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The problem with QB rating is that is emphasizes completions and not 1st downs or progress down the field. It also does not take into account drops or the quality of the competition.
As such, it's pretty useless. Winning QB's tend to have high QB ratings, but having a high rating makes an accurate, but not necessarily winning passer.
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